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Post by mistachuck on Oct 10, 2006 4:43:27 GMT -5
Dont know if this topic was.If it is then i apologize.
Anyway :
What if Noel didn't put all those great songs on b sides of first two album singles ?
They could release third album at the end of 1996 or at the beginning of 1997 and it would have great succes just like first 2 albums.
Imagine how much big they would been.
What do you think ?
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Post by Elias on Oct 10, 2006 6:55:06 GMT -5
"What if!? What if I stepped in the shower and slipped on a bar of soap?... Oh, my God! I'd be killed!" ;D
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Post by mistachuck on Oct 10, 2006 7:14:53 GMT -5
Did Noel ever mention that B sides thing on interviews ?
I never read something like that.
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Post by lyla on Oct 10, 2006 10:26:48 GMT -5
i reckon they would have been bigger but i dunno by how much. i think more importantly they would have been considered the undoubted best band. to the critics especially because 3 consecutive great albums are basically unheard of from any band.
oh well, its all in the past and we still heard the songs so it doesnt matter much.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Oct 10, 2006 12:13:04 GMT -5
they would have been accused of reproducing the same sound on 2 if not 3 consecutive albums imo...
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Post by flashbax812 on Oct 10, 2006 20:06:44 GMT -5
plus noel said in an interview for the masterplan that he always planned on writing great b-sides. as noel said his inspirations in songwriting all wrote original and as he says "ace" b-sides. Noel would never cave in and throw them on there because he was determined to write great A-sides and B-sides. Noel Gallagher = Genius
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Post by Mogly on Oct 10, 2006 20:47:15 GMT -5
five words........ Don't Look Back In Anger
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Post by Poshbird05 on Oct 10, 2006 21:56:50 GMT -5
. to the critics especially because 3 consecutive great albums are basically unheard of from any band. The Beatles Revolver Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The White Album Yellow Submarine Abbey Road Let It Be Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin2 Led Zeppelin3 Led Zeppelin4 Houses of the Holy Physical Graffiti Presence Oasis Defeinitely Maybe WTSMG Be Here Now(yes it's a great album The Eagles Eagles Desperado On the Border One of These Nights Hotel California The Long Run Just to name a few. I know that there are some people who don't like Be Here Now, but it was a good follow up to WTSMG, and I don't think if they released b-sides oasis would be much bigger because BHN reached number 2( Definitely Maybe only made it to 58) in the US charts and if that isn't considered a good follow up I don't know what is. |
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Post by lyla on Oct 10, 2006 23:37:07 GMT -5
. to the critics especially because 3 consecutive great albums are basically unheard of from any band. The Beatles Revolver Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The White Album Yellow Submarine Let It Be Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin2 Led Zeppelin3 Led Zeppelin4 Houses of the Holy Physical Graffiti Presence Oasis Defeinitely Maybe WTSMG Be Here Now(yes it's a great album The Eagles Eagles Desperado On the Border One of These Nights Hotel California The Long Run Just to name a few. I know that there are some people who don't like Be Here Now, but it was a good follow up to WTSMG, and I don't think if they released b-sides oasis would be much bigger because BHN reached number 2( Definitely Maybe only made it to 58) in the US charts and if that isn't considered a good follow up I don't know what is. well, i personally like be here now, it did sell well and a decent follow up. but its not an iconic, classic album the way the first two were. dont think there's any shame in that cos the first two are just so fucking good. ha ha, yeah the beatles, led zep - great bands because of the fact that they were consistently good. i guess i overstated it but my point is that it is uncommon. although, 2 albums as amazing as wtsmg and mg has set oasis up as one of the great bands. but yeah, as chocolate st*rfish said, they probably would have beem accused of not evolving so who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2006 1:05:04 GMT -5
. to the critics especially because 3 consecutive great albums are basically unheard of from any band. The Beatles Revolver Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The White Album Yellow Submarine Let It Be Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin Led Zeppelin2 Led Zeppelin3 Led Zeppelin4 Houses of the Holy Physical Graffiti Presence Oasis Defeinitely Maybe WTSMG Be Here Now(yes it's a great album The Eagles Eagles Desperado On the Border One of These Nights Hotel California The Long Run Just to name a few. I know that there are some people who don't like Be Here Now, but it was a good follow up to WTSMG, and I don't think if they released b-sides oasis would be much bigger because BHN reached number 2( Definitely Maybe only made it to 58) in the US charts and if that isn't considered a good follow up I don't know what is. I die a little when anyone says Presence is a good album. I tend to forget Zep made that album, and skip to In Through The Out Door.  Anyways, I was thinking the same, but without those great B-Sides, I don't think the Oasis legend would be the same. I mean, in 3 years, Noel released a shit load of incredible songs, any artists would love to release, both on the A and B Sides. Those were their glory years, and it wouldn't be the same without those classic B-Sides. |
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Post by Poshbird05 on Oct 11, 2006 7:31:01 GMT -5
Achilles Last Stand and Nobody's Fault But Mine are great tunes
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Post by Mogly on Oct 11, 2006 8:35:39 GMT -5
mmmm posh don't you consider Abbey Road to be a great album? I think it's miles better than let it be.... anyway, I do think Be Here Now is a great album and Oasis could've been the biggest thing since the beatles if BHN had a more mainstream/easy listening sound so most of America would've loved them (just like X&Y) but I'm happy with BHN cos it's an album most fans love and other people don't get. maybe what really fucked Oasis popularity in America was the aborted 96 tour
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Post by Poshbird05 on Oct 11, 2006 10:11:49 GMT -5
yea your right I skipped right over it for some reason, didn't mean to do it, but it's still in the consecutive line of albums
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2006 16:48:14 GMT -5
Achilles Last Stand and Nobody's Fault But Mine are great tunes But other than that, Presence is shit. But I do love those songs, some of my favorites. |
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Post by mistachuck on Oct 12, 2006 3:48:57 GMT -5
they would have been accused of reproducing the same sound on 2 if not 3 consecutive albums imo... At that time they already have been accused of stealing The Beatles and The Stone Roses sound and that they dont have unique sound. With that third album would been probably little more accusations,but since the songs are so great those accusation couldnt do nothing to the bands popularity and succes. As for the b sides : They would still had good b sides songs. So in that case they could have third top album and still good b sides. Change of the sound would come quickly with Be Here Now. BTW : I think that Be Here Now is good album . |
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Post by Moorish on Oct 12, 2006 4:06:49 GMT -5
I think the point about them being accused of not evolving is kind of a daft one - when BHN came out they got accused of not evolving anyway!! People claimed ther album was - and there is a definite valid element to the accustaion - just a combination of the kind of thing they had done on DM and MG (although a lot, lot louder and longer).
This isn't 100% true (Fade In-Out, for example, is a step up for Noel I think), but it has elements of truth to it. "It's just more of the same" was a common complaint when the BHN backlash kicked in.
Personally I like that Noel and the band used some of their classic songs as B-sides. I wish we got more classic B-sides now, rather than pointless shite like The Quiet Ones. That said there is one B-side Noel should NOT have thrown away, AND HE KNOWS IT - The Masterplan.
Imagine it as the final track on BHN, coming in over the faded out reprise of AATW. It would've been like A Day In The Life on the end of Sgt. Pepper - awesome.
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Post by vespa on Oct 12, 2006 7:05:14 GMT -5
there was always gonna be a backlash on be here now because if there wasnt there wouldve been some worry in the industry that they couldve become as big as the beatles,an that im afraid aint allowed to happen.bhn is a fantastic rock n roll album with great songs but the production is not very good at all(no bass,guitars to loud etc)yet it still pisses over anything today.now as for oasis in america ,well the aborted tour did it for them,it was the tour that was gonna send them into beatles territory over there an liam backed out,i dont know if he was slightly nervous or what,but it was a bad move.and ever since that its been declinin sales.yet they are still big over there despite not massive sales they have always had a strong fanbase as the tour showed last year and the sales are on the up again and i think the next album could be big over there.
theyve never really released a bad album at all but following the first 2 is almost impossible ,they are classics an thats that.sotsog n heathem chem are great and dbtt is good but i think it was abit of a letdown the more i heard it ,some of those songs are just not oasis standard,
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Post by mistachuck on Oct 13, 2006 6:52:29 GMT -5
I think they never had a chance to be bigger then Beatles,because Beatles were first and they strongly influenced Oasis.It would be always the same thing like : they didnt invented nothing new ,etc.
Also i think that Be Here Now is overproduced.
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