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Post by themightyeye on Jan 14, 2015 1:03:09 GMT -5
Do you prefer the first 2 singles on the first album or the 2 released so far off this one?
I like "the mighty I" the best outta all four so id go with the new ones...
Your thoughts?
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Post by mossy on Jan 14, 2015 2:45:59 GMT -5
Very different styles, really hard to compare!
Are we including b-sides cos DTD is my favourite out of the three new songs heard so far...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 14, 2015 3:26:23 GMT -5
Since when is Noel part of Beady Eye? (Ahum this is the wrong section haha)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 4:28:18 GMT -5
First 2 singles off first lp .......boring ........ First two off this .........worse ....noel was not cut out to be a singer /songwriter. Only the most ardent lover would like it ....to the masses his voice is bad , why when oasis were making LPS if he sang on a few it was palatable ....but to hear him whine in the same key for 10 tunes No THX .......
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 5:28:02 GMT -5
I like these new two much more. The B-side is also miles ahead of The Good Rebel. NGHFB1 was a really good record, every song was 7-8/10 but it's a bit plain, safe and sonically boring.
Seeing as this is in the Beady Eye section though I'd say I like Bring The Light and Four Letter Word more than Flick and Soul love, but BE was much better than DGSS in every way. I love those two and The Roller but the rest sound like throwaway DBTT B-Sides and Liam's voice is too overproduced and reverb-y on that album. I'm still annoyed we're not getting a follow up to BE though. They packed it in just after they got interesting :/
They could have carved out a cool niche for themselves being a brilliant live band and consistently churning out decent, fun albums every couple of years...oh well
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Post by WirralRiddler on Jan 14, 2015 5:45:53 GMT -5
I agree with kalas, well sort of. The first 2, basically.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 5:55:55 GMT -5
I agree with kalas, well sort of. The first 2, basically. Thx what I mean is noel is not a frontman ......he is not alex turner , Mick , or plant , he does not look comfortable in lead role .....can he sing a few Sure ......but to hear 10 or 12 ...nah .....that's not his forte ....not hating , being realistic ......as some here should ..... oasis used to work when noel sang on a track or two ....not a whole lp ...... He don't got the chops for that mate YA know ?
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Post by WirralRiddler on Jan 14, 2015 6:03:58 GMT -5
I agree with kalas, well sort of. The first 2, basically. Thx what I mean is noel is not a frontman ......he is not alex turner , Mick , or plant , he does not look comfortable in lead role .....can he sing a few Sure ......but to hear 10 or 12 ...nah .....that's not his forte ....not hating , being realistic ......as some here should ..... oasis used to work when noel sang on a track or two ....not a whole lp ...... He don't got the chops for that mate YA know ? Yeah i know what you mean mate, he can get away with it on a record though but live it's as you say. His voice is just not big enough and i often struggle to even hear him over the music live, his voice is just too soft. Nothing new either he was like it towards the end of Oasis too. Acoustic suits him much better IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 6:06:25 GMT -5
WThx what I mean is noel is not a frontman ......he is not alex turner , Mick , or plant , he does not look comfortable in lead role .....can he sing a few Sure ......but to hear 10 or 12 ...nah .....that's not his forte ....not hating , being realistic ......as some here should ..... oasis used to work when noel sang on a track or two ....not a whole lp ...... He don't got the chops for that mate YA know ? Yeah i know what you mean mate, he can get away with it on a record though but live it's as you say. His voice is just not big enough and i often struggle to even hear him over the music live, his voice is just too soft. Nothing new either he was like it towards the end of Oasis too. Acoustic suits him much better IMO Exactly His solo show was probably the most boring show i ever attended ....and I saw the cars !!!! In bits and pieces live like with oasis , ok ots cool ...but for a set ? No way .......ACCOUSTIC was made for him. Well put mate
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Post by andymorris on Jan 14, 2015 6:06:53 GMT -5
Death of you and me & If i had a gun was it ?
The first one is a classic, and not as safe as people seem to think... If i had a gun i'm not too fond of.
But they clearly are better than the last two, the melodies are way stronger and complex. And the dad disco phase Noel is in right isn't my cup of tea. Weird, coz i love disco. but this isn't disco. Even U2 pseudo disco phase was better. And i hate U2.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jan 14, 2015 6:37:05 GMT -5
The Death Of You And Me was the best song on the first record and is a lot better than the the two new songs. Not a fan if The Mighty I but I quite like In The Heat If The Moment but it's nothing special. Noel needs to really pull it out if the bag with the rest if the songs on the album. There could be a reunion yet!
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Jan 14, 2015 6:39:36 GMT -5
I prefer both of the new ones to the first ones.
I'm not a fan of Noel's Kinks obsession / TIOBI-style stuff, so I wasn't too thrilled with TDOYAM.
And If I Had a Gun was basically ruined by its production.
All IMO, obviously.
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 14, 2015 6:42:23 GMT -5
The Death of You & Me > In the Heat of the Moment Do the Damage > The Good Rebel
AKA... What a Life! = Ballad of the Mighty I Let the Lord Shine a Light On Me ? Revolution Song
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jan 14, 2015 7:28:48 GMT -5
The first 2, because of tdoyam, which i love, Abd ithotm, which i AM not that fond of
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jan 14, 2015 7:46:51 GMT -5
First 2 singles off first lp .......boring ........ First two off this .........worse ....noel was not cut out to be a singer /songwriter. Only the most ardent lover would like it ....to the masses his voice is bad , why when oasis were making LPS if he sang on a few it was palatable ....but to hear him whine in the same key for 10 tunes No THX ....... I've heard some shite in my time but this is something else.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 7:52:12 GMT -5
First 2 singles off first lp .......boring ........ First two off this .........worse ....noel was not cut out to be a singer /songwriter. Only the most ardent lover would like it ....to the masses his voice is bad , why when oasis were making LPS if he sang on a few it was palatable ....but to hear him whine in the same key for 10 tunes No THX ....... I've heard some shite in my time but this is something else.e Maybe its shite to you mate. But not to many i know ....he is not made for being a solo artist that sings lead on every tune. He don't have the chops for that ......... By not cut out to be a singer / songwriter. I mean both. He was at his best when he was a songwriter ...and his brother sung ....as he progressively grew mor independent ......both his singing and songwriting have detoriated ...... He has not sung or wrote anything near DLBIA in 20 years or thereabouts .....not trying to make a shite post. Just a honest one
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Post by beentherenow on Jan 14, 2015 8:13:26 GMT -5
Definitely the first 2,
I've not been a fan at all of these two. I'm mean they're ok but this is Noel Gallagher not Ed fucking Sheeran, ok isn't acceptable.
I was always a much bigger fan of Liam's voice so a whole album of Noel was always going to be interesting, I found NGHFB's a bit boring and I'm worried this one might be the same
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Post by dtr2014 on Jan 14, 2015 8:24:31 GMT -5
First 2 singles off first lp .......boring ........ First two off this .........worse ....noel was not cut out to be a singer /songwriter. Only the most ardent lover would like it ....to the masses his voice is bad , why when oasis were making LPS if he sang on a few it was palatable ....but to hear him whine in the same key for 10 tunes No THX .......
Sorry bud, but most don't agree with you. I saw a stat the other day that the first record sold 2.5 mil copies. I don't know if that's so, but if it sold a million, then lots of folks liked it.
kalas, you are obviously a Liam/Beady Eye guy. You don't have to like Noel's stuff, but lots of folks do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 8:41:19 GMT -5
First 2 singles off first lp .......boring ........ First two off this .........worse ....noel was not cut out to be a singer /songwriter. Only the most ardent lover would like it ....to the masses his voice is bad , why when oasis were making LPS if he sang on a few it was palatable ....but to hear him whine in the same key for 10 tunes No THX .......
Sorry bud, but most don't agree with you. I saw a stat the other day that the first record sold 2.5 mil copies. I don't know if that's so, but if it sold a million, then lots of folks liked it.
kalas, you are obviously a Liam/Beady Eye guy. You don't have to like Noel's stuff, but lots of folks do.
A what ....You have 37!posts ...and obviously have no clue. Im not a team member ,.. I thought beady eye sucked. I think noel is as bad ...solo they both are lacking .......if your gonna quote someone here ..know there history .....a team player I was never accused of AND ALL KNOW THAT Simply tell it straight ....oh and check your numbers ....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 8:47:51 GMT -5
First 2 singles off first lp .......boring ........ First two off this .........worse ....noel was not cut out to be a singer /songwriter. Only the most ardent lover would like it ....to the masses his voice is bad , why when oasis were making LPS if he sang on a few it was palatable ....but to hear him whine in the same key for 10 tunes No THX .......
kalas, you are obviously a Liam/Beady Eye guy. You don't have to like Noel's stuff, but lots of folks do.
Sorry rookie ..I've never Been a team player are captains for team noel ......if you must know. I am and always will be #TEAMOASIS. BUT YOU TRIED TO BE CLEVER .....FAILED
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Post by dtr2014 on Jan 14, 2015 8:48:28 GMT -5
At one point in your LiveForever life, you had 37 posts, as well. Were you less informed at that point than you are now? No, I'm not the young fan who comes on and makes assumptions. I've read your stuff. Aren't you in Florida? I think we've had a brief exchange on that.
Look, guy, you got all weepy when you were discussing Liam and how your boy at the Cocoa Beach strip club didn't know he had a new band. You LOVE Liam. Dude, there's nothing wrong with that. But, it's also clear, despite what you say, that you HATE Noel. His stuff is boring, he's not a singer/songwriter, whatever, blah blah blah.
You thought Beady Eye sucked? That's because they DID. Embarrassing drivel, that was.
And you know, you CAN disagree with someone and not make it a character issue.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 8:52:51 GMT -5
At one point in your LiveForever life, you had 37 posts, as well. Were you less informed at that point than you are now? No, I'm not the young fan who comes on and makes assumptions. I've read your stuff. Aren't you in Florida? I think we've had a brief exchange on that. Look, guy, you got all weepy when you were discussing Liam and how your boy at the Cocoa Beach strip club didn't know he had a new band. You LOVE Liam. Dude, there's nothing wrong with that. But, it's also clear, despite what you say, that you HATE Noel. His stuff is boring, he's not a singer/songwriter, whatever, blah blah blah. You thought Beady Eye sucked? That's because they DID. Embarrassing drivel, that was. And you know, you CAN disagree with someone and not make it a character issue. Im flattered you remember ...and im in viera .....however while bdi did suck .......noel is in pole position for runner up, and for record ..I don t hate noel at all .......I hate the worship and double standard ......but not the man. He still wrote the soundtrack of the 90 s. My second favorite decade thank you for reading my work
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Post by dtr2014 on Jan 14, 2015 9:02:03 GMT -5
At one point in your LiveForever life, you had 37 posts, as well. Were you less informed at that point than you are now? No, I'm not the young fan who comes on and makes assumptions. I've read your stuff. Aren't you in Florida? I think we've had a brief exchange on that. Look, guy, you got all weepy when you were discussing Liam and how your boy at the Cocoa Beach strip club didn't know he had a new band. You LOVE Liam. Dude, there's nothing wrong with that. But, it's also clear, despite what you say, that you HATE Noel. His stuff is boring, he's not a singer/songwriter, whatever, blah blah blah. You thought Beady Eye sucked? That's because they DID. Embarrassing drivel, that was. And you know, you CAN disagree with someone and not make it a character issue. Im flattered you remember ...and im in viera .....however while bdi did suck .......noel is in pole position for runner up, and for record ..I don t hate noel at all .......I hate the worship and double standard ......but not the man. He still wrote the soundtrack of the 90 s. My second favorite decade thank you for reading my work You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but so are the rest of us.
I'd be interested to hear what it is you'd like to hear from Noel. You claim he hasn't been relevant since '95. While I won't disagree too strongly, I'd offer up that the industry has changed so much since their first three albums. Very few artists have had staying power unless they targeting kids and most of those die out too.
Oasis did some good work after Be Here Now. It's all about your expectations, though. Did you hate SOTSOG? Did you love it? All depends on what you were looking for. Do you just want hard assed rock n roll?
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jan 14, 2015 9:09:08 GMT -5
I'll go for the 2 new ones, but more on single material... I really like TDOYAM, but I'm not sure if it's first single material... it's a great song but it reminds me too much of TIOBI and I feel like the first single should be a bit more energic and ITHOTM made feel a bit more anxious for the new album...
As for the second, we all knew IIHAG, and many felt a bit underwhelmed by the production... I guess only when WAL came out I felt "wowww new stuff!". So, for second single I'll go with BOTMI cos' I find it a damn cool song and feels like new territory for the chief...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2015 9:11:20 GMT -5
Im flattered you remember ...and im in viera .....however while bdi did suck .......noel is in pole position for runner up, and for record ..I don t hate noel at all .......I hate the worship and double standard ......but not the man. He still wrote the soundtrack of the 90 s. My second favorite decade thank you for reading my work You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but so are the rest of us.
I'd be interested to hear what it is you'd like to hear from Noel. You claim he hasn't been relevant since '95. While I won't disagree too strongly, I'd offer up that the industry has changed so much since their first three albums. Very few artists have had staying power unless they targeting kids and most of those die out too.
Oasis did some good work after Be Here Now. It's all about your expectations, though. Did you hate SOTSOG? Did you love it? All depends on what you were looking for. Do you just want hard assed rock n roll?
Tough call. I wanted something as good as 05. Noel,was not relevant then ( im eggsagerating by not since 95 ) I thought DBTT showed the promise for a future .......then we got DOYS and BDI and noel solo ( all crap .......) i dont want want hard ass rock from noel ....I got Van HALEN for that ( did you see DAVE rock with the foo fighters ) I want something that inspires ......something he has not produced in awhile ...... i did did not hate SOTSOG. I think Sunday morning call is great .....best hangover tune ever .....but I also think bdi were lame ...and noel solo just as bad ....so I guess I'm jaded
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