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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 15, 2015 20:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Jan 15, 2015 20:53:29 GMT -5
Agree. If you're looking for something really original and different from anything else, something artsy, with Hemingway songwriting, then Noel is the wrong musician for you. I agree too. Let's not forget that this man wrote about 10 big songs using the same four chords, and he's still not tired of doing it. If you're seeking originality or avant-garde tunes you should really look somewhere else... Hahaha, he is dangerous, armed and still out there, ready to come up with the next wonderwall chords progression ballad. |
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Post by neily on Jan 16, 2015 0:11:22 GMT -5
Nobody noticed the huge influence of beady eye on noel! 6min song without bridge or refrain... at least BE try to rock a bit.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 16, 2015 0:29:36 GMT -5
Nobody noticed the huge influence of beady eye on noel! 6min song without bridge or refrain... at least BE try to rock a bit. I noticed. Not so sure it has to do with Beady Eye though. Or maybe it does, who knows? I just thought, hey this sounds like something Beady Eye would do (lack of a real chorus). |
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Post by mouth on Jan 16, 2015 1:11:23 GMT -5
There is s little used "H" note that no one ever uses. That would make the melody unique right? H ia just G sharp/ A flat with another name for the dutch/german people  nope. an "H" is just a regular "B". you are right about the germans though. but i don't know about the dutch and if they use H instead of B. |
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Post by mouth on Jan 16, 2015 1:19:21 GMT -5
and to add to the confusion, a Bb in german is a B.  |
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2015 1:19:58 GMT -5
Nobody noticed the huge influence of beady eye on noel! 6min song without bridge or refrain... at least BE try to rock a bit. I noticed. Not so sure it has to do with Beady Eye though. Or maybe it does, who knows? I just thought, hey this sounds like something Beady Eye would do (lack of a real chorus). I think it has more depth than a Beady Eye tune. My brother isn't into Oasis, can't stand Beady Eye but he honestly rates this tune. Probably cos he feels it's the only thing that doesn't feel 'retro' from a Gallagher release but, like many on here, also recognised a good chorus in there so I'm sure I'm not hearing things wrong! It's unusual chorus because it uses minor chords compared to Noel's typical use go major chords in the chorus, but it's definitely there. I don't know how some folk aren't hearing a chorus there, admittedly it's not expansive in the Don't Look Back In Anger mould as it's much shorter, but I think it soars, and I really think it's one of his stronger choruses in recent years. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 16, 2015 1:31:36 GMT -5
I noticed. Not so sure it has to do with Beady Eye though. Or maybe it does, who knows? I just thought, hey this sounds like something Beady Eye would do (lack of a real chorus). I think it has more depth than a Beady Eye tune. My brother isn't into Oasis, can't stand Beady Eye but he honestly rates this tune. Probably cos he feels it's the only thing that doesn't feel 'retro' from a Gallagher release but, like many on here, also recognised a good chorus in there. It's unusual chorus because it uses minor chords compared to Noel's typical use go major chords in the chorus, but it's definitely there. I don't know how some folk aren't hearing a chorus there, admittedly it's not expansive in the Don't Look Back In Anger mould as it's much shorter, but I think it soars, I really do. I hear the chorus, but normally something like that would be a pre-chorus for Noel. It feels like a pre-chorus, rather than an actual chorus. When the preview came out, I was convinced it was still building to something more. I have no issues with this, one of the reasons why I can appreciate Beady Eye so much. It's still a great melody. |
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2015 1:43:43 GMT -5
I think it has more depth than a Beady Eye tune. My brother isn't into Oasis, can't stand Beady Eye but he honestly rates this tune. Probably cos he feels it's the only thing that doesn't feel 'retro' from a Gallagher release but, like many on here, also recognised a good chorus in there. It's unusual chorus because it uses minor chords compared to Noel's typical use go major chords in the chorus, but it's definitely there. I don't know how some folk aren't hearing a chorus there, admittedly it's not expansive in the Don't Look Back In Anger mould as it's much shorter, but I think it soars, I really do. I hear the chorus, but normally something like that would be a pre-chorus for Noel. It feels like a pre-chorus, rather than an actual chorus. When the preview came out, I was convinced it was still building to something more. I have no issues with this, one of the reasons why I can appreciate Beady Eye so much. It's still a great melody. Likewise, I'm one of those who thinks a great tune doesn't need a great chorus - or even a chorus. I love Flick of the Finger and I feel it's one of the greatest Gallagher releases of the last decade personally. It feels like a perfect scene setter - one of those songs that would be a great intro to a film, the camera panning a landscape or something - a full blown chorus would ruin the strange feeling of tranquility I get from FOTF. |
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Post by thomuk2006 on Jan 16, 2015 2:45:10 GMT -5
Remember when I first moved to Denmark from the UK and saw a H chord!!!! I was like what the fuck??? a new magic chord I have never heard about.... but yeah to my disappointment it is just a B chord... boooo. Live in Sweden now, don't think I have seen it here? odd.
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Post by neily on Jan 16, 2015 3:03:17 GMT -5
Like BE, the chorus or whatever it is, is just a small variation of the first phrase... its sweet and not bad but its clearly not enough. From noel i expect more. I try to write songs on my own and thats why i loved noel sooo much ! I realise how hard it is to find bridge, refrain and other variation to the first sentence you wrote ! Find the begining of a song is not so hard but work on it to make it grows and make it flow like water is the biggest part of the job. Thats why i never really care about the ripp off he does because the hardest part is still in front of you.
When i here this song i can see the guy too lazy to finish the song and work a lot on the prodution works to hide the poor work of songwriting he made. (Just like liam and his mates). But noel knows he is not jimi page or hendrix and he said at the begining that oasis (him)gonna be interesting as long as they gonna have songs. And, to be honnest the first verse of the song is pretty average... the following part is much better but this song is not finish for me just like most of the BE songs... thats what i really feel.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jan 16, 2015 4:23:35 GMT -5
I think it has more depth than a Beady Eye tune. My brother isn't into Oasis, can't stand Beady Eye but he honestly rates this tune. Funnily enough, it's the same for me - my brother who doesn't like rock music in general but listened to a few songs I gave him thought every BE song he heard was "unmemorable" while he loved most of the HFB songs, especially TDOYAM and WAL. Baffles me as well. The song clearly has a chorus as well as a solo, yet people still claim it lacks both. |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 16, 2015 4:31:40 GMT -5
This song clearly need a producer or someone to tell Noel he's gone the wrong way.
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Post by carlober on Jan 16, 2015 4:39:23 GMT -5
This song clearly IMHO need a producer or someone to tell Noel he's gone the wrong way. I fixed that for you  Another producer like Sardy? Fuck, please no. From the three tracks we've heard so far I'm happy he has produced the album himself. |
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2015 5:15:19 GMT -5
This song clearly need a producer or someone to tell Noel he's gone the wrong way. Last ten years suggests Noel's been wasting money hiring producers who do a worse job than him... |
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Post by andymorris on Jan 16, 2015 5:27:17 GMT -5
This song clearly need a producer or someone to tell Noel he's gone the wrong way. Last ten years suggests Noel's been wasting money hiring producers who do a worse job than him... Well they couldn't have done worse on the Mighty I. I'm not in team Sardy, he surely did ruin a couple of tracks, but he's not as bad as people say. |
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Post by carlober on Jan 16, 2015 5:28:58 GMT -5
Last ten years suggests Noel's been wasting money hiring producers who do a worse job than him... Well they couldn't have done worse on the Mighty I. I'm not in team Sardy, he surely did ruin a couple of tracks, but he's not as bad as people say. What's wrong with the production in Mighty I? |
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Post by matt on Jan 16, 2015 5:48:14 GMT -5
Last ten years suggests Noel's been wasting money hiring producers who do a worse job than him... Well they couldn't have done worse on the Mighty I. I'm not in team Sardy, he surely did ruin a couple of tracks, but he's not as bad as people say. Sounds brilliant in my ears. Full credit to Noel. |
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Post by squire on Jan 16, 2015 8:22:40 GMT -5
Thank the lord Noel decided to produce CY on his own. So far everything sounds so much more interesting than NGHFB #1.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 16, 2015 8:28:10 GMT -5
Thank the lord Noel decided to produce CY on his own. So far everything sounds so much more interesting than NGHFB #1. I think the real reason Sardy passed on on producing Chasing Yesterday is because he read all the negative comments about him on this forum. He's a savvy guy and I know he probably reads forums. He def stumbled upon this place and saw me crushing him. You are welcome fellow forum members. |
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Jan 16, 2015 8:36:47 GMT -5
The song is mediocre so fuckin get over it already and stop talking about the solo or the atmosphere or other shit.
Noel has written MANY great songs,but this one is on the bottom 20 for sure.
It is not difficult to see that the melody is poor and generic.Only if you know shit about songwriting,you can defend this tune.
Listen,anybody who grew up listening Lennon and McCartney tunes, knows a rich melody from a FORCED ,UNINSPIRED one.He is one of the top songwriters of the last 20 years for sure,but this tune is completely desperate and generic.
It is not about personal opinion either. If this is a 8/10 tune,then what are A day in the life,Yesterday,Eleanor rigby, In my life, Let it be, Here comes the sun, Strawberry fields forever,Penny lane and the long and winding road and Here there and everywhere? 20/10?
Stop trying to concvince yourselves that this a rtruly good song and simply enjoy it for what it is.A pleasant but slight,atmospheric tune.
4/10 for people who know what a good melody is and there are many on this forum.It's the dedicated fanboys who bring the quality of the conversation down.
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Post by Praetorian on Jan 16, 2015 8:46:45 GMT -5
The song is mediocre so fuckin get over it already and stop talking about the solo or the atmosphere or other shit. Noel has written MANY great songs,but this one is on the bottom 20 for sure. It is not difficult to see that the melody is poor and generic.Only if you know shit about songwriting,you can defend this tune. Listen,anybody who grew up listening Lennon and McCartney tunes, knows a rich melody from a FORCED ,UNINSPIRED one.He is one of the top songwriters of the last 20 years for sure,but this tune is completely desperate and generic. It is not about personal opinion either. If this is a 8/10 tune,then what are A day in the life,Yesterday,Eleanor rigby, In my life, Let it be, Here comes the sun, Strawberry fields forever,Penny lane and the long and winding road and Here there and everywhere? 20/10? Stop trying to concvince yourselves that this a rtruly good song and simply enjoy it for what it is.A pleasant but slight,atmospheric tune. 4/10 for people who know what a good melody is and there are many on this forum.It's the dedicated fanboys who bring the quality of the conversation down. |
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Post by magneticz on Jan 16, 2015 8:57:48 GMT -5
The song is mediocre so fuckin get over it already and stop talking about the solo or the atmosphere or other shit. Noel has written MANY great songs,but this one is on the bottom 20 for sure. It is not difficult to see that the melody is poor and generic.Only if you know shit about songwriting,you can defend this tune. Listen,anybody who grew up listening Lennon and McCartney tunes, knows a rich melody from a FORCED ,UNINSPIRED one.He is one of the top songwriters of the last 20 years for sure,but this tune is completely desperate and generic. It is not about personal opinion either. If this is a 8/10 tune,then what are A day in the life,Yesterday,Eleanor rigby, In my life, Let it be, Here comes the sun, Strawberry fields forever,Penny lane and the long and winding road and Here there and everywhere? 20/10? Stop trying to concvince yourselves that this a rtruly good song and simply enjoy it for what it is.A pleasant but slight,atmospheric tune. 4/10 for people who know what a good melody is and there are many on this forum.It's the dedicated fanboys who bring the quality of the conversation down. totally agree. Even Stranded on the Wrong Beach and that silly song Four Letter Word are better |
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Post by Ltrain on Jan 16, 2015 9:02:59 GMT -5
The song is mediocre so fuckin get over it already and stop talking about the solo or the atmosphere or other shit. Noel has written MANY great songs,but this one is on the bottom 20 for sure. It is not difficult to see that the melody is poor and generic.Only if you know shit about songwriting,you can defend this tune. Listen,anybody who grew up listening Lennon and McCartney tunes, knows a rich melody from a FORCED ,UNINSPIRED one.He is one of the top songwriters of the last 20 years for sure,but this tune is completely desperate and generic. It is not about personal opinion either. If this is a 8/10 tune,then what are A day in the life,Yesterday,Eleanor rigby, In my life, Let it be, Here comes the sun, Strawberry fields forever,Penny lane and the long and winding road and Here there and everywhere? 20/10? Stop trying to concvince yourselves that this a rtruly good song and simply enjoy it for what it is.A pleasant but slight,atmospheric tune. 4/10 for people who know what a good melody is and there are many on this forum.It's the dedicated fanboys who bring the quality of the conversation down. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink. |
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Post by Doc Lobster on Jan 16, 2015 9:15:49 GMT -5
The song is mediocre so fuckin get over it already and stop talking about the solo or the atmosphere or other shit. It is not difficult to see that the melody is poor and generic. Only if you know shit about songwriting,you can defend this tune. It is not about personal opinion either. It's the dedicated fanboys who bring the quality of the conversation down. Is there an option not to see the posts from a certain user in this forum? |
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