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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jan 9, 2015 8:53:41 GMT -5
Has #illdrawwithyou gone up on Twitter? I hope the hostages just taken don't wind up dead
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Jan 9, 2015 9:46:19 GMT -5
at the end of the day, it's as simple as...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 11:20:49 GMT -5
Blair and Bush must be so proud of their legacy. SERIOUSLY globe. mimmihopps @theyknowhatimean Your are that naive just plain not politically savvy ?? This has been in the playbook pf these Islamic extremists SINCE DEMORCRATS WERE IN OFFICE ...GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND BUY A CLUE ...ALL OF YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT IF YOU THINK THIS WAS STARTED BY BUSH/ BLAIR ......... GET A CLUE ...OR BETTER YET TAKE A HISTORY CLASS ... U are so naive YOUNARE ALL IGNORANT IF YOU PUT THIS ON BUSH/ Blair table ........ Ridiculous
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 11:25:58 GMT -5
mimmihopps globe theyknowwhatimean ...buy a vowel and get a clue , your pacifist left wing stupidity is what will get your loved ones killed in a supermarket ....... Pathetically stupid
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 11:26:51 GMT -5
Like a boss More like. Like a lamb to slaughter . So Un noel mimmihopps your naivety is shocking
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 11:46:19 GMT -5
Ai fell for you loved ones when confronted in situation ........take a John Lennon peace sign and hope for the best ..... Me ...I'll fuckin blow yoyr head off .......I honestly hope you pacifists don't like a loved one to a immoral act like that ....but if you do ....in a " real moment " youd want a bush or REAGAN ...... Not a leader who allows to terror to run amok ......your all so naive it's actually sickening , ..@theyknowhatimean put up a LENNON peace mate ....that might help you when someone attacks for no reason ...... Your a putz I wish I was a " vigilante " at least Id survive , you would all be worm food ........
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jan 9, 2015 12:38:10 GMT -5
Nobody is blaming all Muslims. I'm blaming Islam. It might be a primarily peaceful book, but it also has a hell of a lot of hate and violence. From the endorsement of slavery, to the subjugation of women, to the endorsement for killing those who practice religions other than Islam. Luckily most have developed a common sense, although not so much for the less extreme points like the subjugation of women, which most (if not all) Muslims are responsible for practicing. To say that these terrorists aren't following the guidelines wouldn't be entirely accurate, considering it's all up to the interpretation of the individual anyway, no matter if you're part of the peaceful majority or not. If they're reading the same book, but reaching a different conclusion, it's still the fault of the book for being able to be interpreted in such a way. Or as with some verses, it's taken literally, in which case they might be following it more accurately than the majority of all Muslims. Either way, the text is to blame. And it would suggest it might not be such a good text to follow after all, purely because it can be taken in a negative way. It might be better for everyone, morally, to toss it out into the garbage bin. After all, there's 5 billion other people on this planet that get by relatively peacefully without the Islamic holy texts. I think you mean the Quran not Islam in your post. Here are some examples from the Bible. endorsement for killing Slavery subjugation of women subjugation of women Its all the same shit. First of all, is there Islam without their holy text? Of course not. It's the entire foundation of the religion. The Quran is just one of their holy texts, for the record. Second of all, I despise Christianity. Perhaps not as much as I despise Islam, simply because there isn't a significant amount of people practicing the terrible commandments from The Bible, like there is in Islam. They especially don't run planes into buildings, lay pipe bombs, strap on suicide vests or go out and kill people in the streets. Does it happen from time to time in Christianity? Sure. But this is a common and recurring problem in Islam, not just some random event. It's organized and with a set goal. Which isn't to say Christianity is without its own issues, but this discussion is about Islam and I'd prefer not to piss people off today, which if I start talking about the problems in Christianity, someone here is likely to get insulted if they haven't been already by just my brief mention that I despise it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 9, 2015 14:02:48 GMT -5
It has nothing to do with liberalism. Not creating martyrs is smart and not lowering yourself to the level of murderers is a good thing. Its what should separate us and them if we want to try and improve the world we live in. If humans live by the law of an eye for an eye then we are all fucked. Seriouslty If humans do not live by a eye for a eye hitler would rule EUROPE , Jews word be worm food ....and your belief in free speach wpuld be exterminated by the " evil empire " ....... it's thinking like that , that allows this behavior of radicals to survive and thrive ....... Me ? I'd shoot you in the head ( if my life was on line ) and ask questions later , and be judged later by a jury , rather than mourned by loved ones ....... Sorry bro. But your way off The battle to reclaim Europe and halt Hitler and his governments atrocities has nothing to do with an eye for an eye. You could say the red army of took revenge on a grand scale but that would mean you agree with the rape of hundreds of thousands of women in eastern Europe? I don't think you do. When has shooting first and asking questions later ever worked? I suppose Ferguson would be a recent example of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 14:06:39 GMT -5
Seriouslty If humans do not live by a eye for a eye hitler would rule EUROPE , Jews word be worm food ....and your belief in free speach wpuld be exterminated by the " evil empire " ....... it's thinking like that , that allows this behavior of radicals to survive and thrive ....... Me ? I'd shoot you in the head ( if my life was on line ) and ask questions later , and be judged later by a jury , rather than mourned by loved ones ....... Sorry bro. But your way off The battle to reclaim Europe and halt Hitler and his governments atrocities has nothing to do with an eye for an eye. You could say the red army of took revenge on a grand scale but that would mean you agree with the rape of hundreds of thousands of women in eastern Europe? I don't think you do. When has shooting first and asking questions later ever worked? I suppose Ferguson would be a recent example of that. Respect the argument mate ...but I disagree in principal ...but no disrespect to u . I go the other way .but point taken
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Post by globe on Jan 10, 2015 4:36:19 GMT -5
Blair and Bush must be so proud of their legacy. SERIOUSLY globe. mimmihopps @theyknowhatimean Your are that naive just plain not politically savvy ?? This has been in the playbook pf these Islamic extremists SINCE DEMORCRATS WERE IN OFFICE ...GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND BUY A CLUE ...ALL OF YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT IF YOU THINK THIS WAS STARTED BY BUSH/ BLAIR ......... GET A CLUE ...OR BETTER YET TAKE A HISTORY CLASS ... U are so naive YOUNARE ALL IGNORANT IF YOU PUT THIS ON BUSH/ Blair table ........ Ridiculous Hey man, you disagree with me? That's fine but at least put some kind of coherent argument together rather than some rambling bullshit. You say I'm politically naive. I say anybody who denies any correlation between the rise in Islamic fundamentalism in "the west", and the actions taken by "the west" in Islamic countries since 2003 is the naive one. Of course my comment was glib and it's not just Blair and Bush to blame for this cluster-fuck of a situation we are in at the moment and the events in Paris, but it was those two geniuses who's actions are a major part of this. Remember WMDs? Well Saddam didn't have them but we do - young disaffected and radicalised muslims who were born in OUR countries.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 5:08:08 GMT -5
SERIOUSLY globe. mimmihopps @theyknowhatimean Your are that naive just plain not politically savvy ?? This has been in the playbook pf these Islamic extremists SINCE DEMORCRATS WERE IN OFFICE ...GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND BUY A CLUE ...ALL OF YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT IF YOU THINK THIS WAS STARTED BY BUSH/ BLAIR ......... GET A CLUE ...OR BETTER YET TAKE A HISTORY CLASS ... U are so naive YOUNARE ALL IGNORANT IF YOU PUT THIS ON BUSH/ Blair table ........ Ridiculous Hey man, you disagree with me? That's fine but at least put some kind of coherent argument together rather than some rambling bullshit. You say I'm politically naive. I say anybody who denies any correlation between the rise in Islamic fundamentalism in "the west", and the actions taken by "the west" in Islamic countries since 2003 is the naive one. Of course my comment was glib and it's not just Blair and Bush to blame for this cluster-fuck of a situation we are in at the moment and the events in Paris, but it was those two geniuses who's actions are a major part of this. Remember WMDs? Well Saddam didn't have them but we do - young disaffected and radicalised muslims who were born in OUR countries. When one makes a " glib " statement as you admittedly did .......coherency need not be applied ............suffice to say ...you were wrong
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2015 5:13:45 GMT -5
Oh and globe since 2003 ?? ...ok I guess the shoe bomber was ahead of his time then when he tried blowing up,a plane from heading to usa ........ WMD were not a point then , j Im just saying violence may not be the best solution but putting your head in the sand ...as your view seems to be , and hope for best , will get you killed every time , I rather be pro- active ......is that COHERENT ENOUGH MATEY If memory serves correct that was what november or December 2001 !!! so there goes your theory ........mate
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Post by globe on Jan 11, 2015 8:19:01 GMT -5
Oh and globe since 2003 ?? ...ok I guess the shoe bomber was ahead of his time then when he tried blowing up,a plane from heading to usa ........ WMD were not a point then , j Im just saying violence may not be the best solution but putting your head in the sand ...as your view seems to be , and hope for best , will get you killed every time , I rather be pro- active ......is that COHERENT ENOUGH MATEY If memory serves correct that was what november or December 2001 !!! so there goes your theory ........mate Yes 2003, the year of the Iraq invasion - you know that country for no reason we have completely destroyed killing hundreds of thousands of people in the process? Honestly, I've re-read your posts in this thread several times and still have no clue what you are trying to say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 8:34:14 GMT -5
Oh and globe since 2003 ?? ...ok I guess the shoe bomber was ahead of his time then when he tried blowing up,a plane from heading to usa ........ WMD were not a point then , j Im just saying violence may not be the best solution but putting your head in the sand ...as your view seems to be , and hope for best , will get you killed every time , I rather be pro- active ......is that COHERENT ENOUGH MATEY If memory serves correct that was what november or December 2001 !!! so there goes your theory ........mate Yes 2003, the year of the Iraq invasion - you know that country for no reason we have completely destroyed killing hundreds of thousands of people in the process? Honestly, I've re-read your posts in this thread several times and still have no clue what you are trying to say. It's ok ....I disagree with your stance ....but I respect your right to have it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 17:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by NYR on Jan 16, 2015 13:47:30 GMT -5
The entire French Muslim population should not be punished for the crimes of a few extremist assholes.
That said, if people want to immigrate, they're welcome, but they should assimilate like the rest of the immigrant population. If not, they should stay right where they fucking are. That's the non-PC thing that must be said, and it goes for ANY group. Muslim, Christian, Jewish, black, white, whatever. Assimilate peacefully or don't emigrate.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Jan 18, 2015 3:53:27 GMT -5
People are saying this will spark World War III.
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