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Post by matt on Dec 29, 2014 19:13:53 GMT -5
In a nutshell: Early 80s U2: Post-punk Mid to late 80s: Ambient/alternative rock 90s U2: Electro/dance alternative 2000s: MOR rock Pretty decent palette there - though you have a point about the 2000s - they arguably have been making the same album time and time again. But they're not relevant anymore and who cares? Not great but still good, I really enjoy their recent record - just like Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan, they're known for their best work and their careers shouldn't be judged on their later albums. I was actually listing another band that I think is samey, Disturbed. Ah fair enough, something about heavy metal bands - the ones I know don't really progress much. A lot of metalheads are very loyal to their bands though so perhaps this may be one of the reasons.
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Post by mossy on Dec 29, 2014 19:54:54 GMT -5
I don't think Hail To The Thief, In Rainbows or King of Limbs sound alike. HTTT is a hot mess. Too many tracks running the gauntlet of all their interests between 1998 and 2002. In Rainbows was more of a throwback, mid 90s type of guitar album. Very rare from Radiohead over the last 14 years or so. King of Limbs felt more like Atoms For Peace than Radiohead. Still contained some really nice moments like Bloom, Codex and Seperator. I honestly have no idea where Radiohead will head off to next in 2015. Prob more Limbs than Rainbows but who knows. In Rainbows seems more like a natural sequel to OK Computer, maybe even more so with The Bends. Granted, the critics and fans wouldn't want it that way as there wouldn't be that hat-trick of surprises - starting with The Bends, then throwing a curve ball with OK Computer, and then another with Kid A. In a five year period, it is an astonishing trilogy of albums. /* Conspiracy theory alert */ In Rainbows was intended to be a direct sequel to OK Computer. The songs can be played back to back to make one uber album: puddlegum.net/radiohead-01-and-10/
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Post by Headmaster on Dec 29, 2014 22:16:09 GMT -5
A band doens't need to change to be relevant, just look at The Smiths, they never changed (only maybe on How Soon is Now?), yet they pissed on a lot of experimental bands over there.
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Dec 29, 2014 22:23:33 GMT -5
A band doens't need to change to be relevant, just look at The Smiths, they never changed (only maybe on How Soon is Now?), yet they pissed on a lot of experimental bands over there. Dragon (Kiwi band) did what the Smiths did but better (stating opinion not fact there, Hunter was a better singer than this Williams moron).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 6:50:32 GMT -5
First of I am a big Radiohead, Oasis and Coldplay fan... Oasis should have finished the reinvention they started on SOTSOG instead of getting scared by low sales and reverting to bland ballads, U2 (or should I say Brian Eno?) have changed style often enough but sadly never quality beyond "ok" , Coldplay to be fair never make the same album twice and always provide something noticably different but never deviate too far from the same pop-rock formula and the only exciting experimentation left for Radiohead is to write something happy.
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Post by joladella on Dec 30, 2014 7:41:47 GMT -5
I was actually listing another band that I think is samey, Disturbed. I felt "Believe" was not that similar to "The Sickness", much softer. But I myself did lose interest in them afterwards, so I guess I have to agree, more or less. Although I still very much like those two. That misunderstanding with the name reminds me of when I was still living at my parents', listening to "The Sickness" and my mother comes in, asking bewildered: mother: "Who is THAT?!" me: "... The Disturbed ... " mother, very dryly: "Yes, I can hear that (they are disturbed)."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 10:00:16 GMT -5
Ok you can lock the thread now as I have the ultimate band who NEVER EVOLVED .....GEORGE THOUROGOOD AND TNE DELEWARE DESTROYERS. the man only plsys 3 notes and tnere BAD TO THE BONE. Worst concert i ever saw
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 30, 2014 10:17:54 GMT -5
First of I am a big Radiohead, Oasis and Coldplay fan... Oasis should have finished the reinvention they started on SOTSOG instead of getting scared by low sales and reverting to bland ballads, U2 (or should I say Brian Eno?) have changed style often enough but sadly never quality beyond "ok" , Coldplay to be fair never make the same album twice and always provide something noticably different but never deviate too far from the same pop-rock formula and the only exciting experimentation left for Radiohead is to write something happy. I feel like you and I could be best friends forever.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 10:20:38 GMT -5
First of I am a big Radiohead, Oasis and Coldplay fan... Oasis should have finished the reinvention they started on SOTSOG instead of getting scared by low sales and reverting to bland ballads, U2 (or should I say Brian Eno?) have changed style often enough but sadly never quality beyond "ok" , Coldplay to be fair never make the same album twice and always provide something noticably different but never deviate too far from the same pop-rock formula and the only exciting experimentation left for Radiohead is to write something happy. I feel like you and I could be best friends forever. XD The picture settles it!
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Post by LlAM on Dec 30, 2014 11:16:42 GMT -5
Ok you can lock the thread now as I have the ultimate band who NEVER EVOLVED .....GEORGE THOUROGOOD AND TNE DELEWARE DESTROYERS. the man only plsys 3 notes and tnere BAD TO THE BONE. Worst concert i ever saw Dunno that guy but Tom Petty must be in the Guinness book of records for most songs with three chords
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 11:21:52 GMT -5
Ok you can lock the thread now as I have the ultimate band who NEVER EVOLVED .....GEORGE THOUROGOOD AND TNE DELEWARE DESTROYERS. the man only plsys 3 notes and tnere BAD TO THE BONE. Worst concert i ever saw Dunno that guy but Tom Petty must be in the Guinness book of records for most songs with three chords Oh absolutely. He would be my second pick. But I kid you not. I've seen them both ( sadly ) live. Actually saw petty twice. He is very monotonous. But not even petty is a bad as as thorougood. Im telling you his whole set. Is 80 minute " Madison blues ". guy fingers are glued to those 3 notes. But petty is right there
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Dec 30, 2014 11:36:20 GMT -5
I was actually listing another band that I think is samey, Disturbed. I felt "Believe" was not that similar to "The Sickness", much softer. But I myself did lose interest in them afterwards, so I guess I have to agree, more or less. Although I still very much like those two. That misunderstanding with the name reminds me of when I was stilling living at my parents', listening to "The Sickness" and my mother comes in, asking bewildered: mother: "Who is THAT?!" me: "... The Disturbed ... " mother, very dryly: "Yes, I can hear that (they are disturbed)." Haha, good story.
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Post by World71R on Dec 30, 2014 15:08:08 GMT -5
First of I am a big Radiohead, Oasis and Coldplay fan... Oasis should have finished the reinvention they started on SOTSOG instead of getting scared by low sales and reverting to bland ballads, U2 (or should I say Brian Eno?) have changed style often enough but sadly never quality beyond "ok" , Coldplay to be fair never make the same album twice and always provide something noticably different but never deviate too far from the same pop-rock formula and the only exciting experimentation left for Radiohead is to write something happy.That's accurate as fuck, to say the least XDDDD Anyways, on the whole "What if Oasis would've Oasis kept going with their experimentation post-SOTSOG?", I think if they would've stuck with it, and combined some of the anthems & ballads they had with HC, it would've been absolutely immense. I think Go Let it Out, Roll it Over, Let's All Make Believe, and to a lesser extent, Gas Panic!, are great examples of how the traditional Oasis formula could've been magnified to new sonic heights with tasteful experimentation. While I believe Little by Little and Stop Crying Your Heart Out are wonderful songs, I can't help but think what Heathen Chemistry would've been like, had they expanded on some of the hints of electronica they had been putting into their songs (PYMWYMI comes to mind on this front). The Hindu Times' demo, and Force of Nature (with the electronic drums) sort of indicated what they were working at, but gave up in favor of the "traditional" sound. I think all of this is what makes DOYS so favorable, and CY so fascinating to look forward to, because of what Noel could've been expanding on years ago, but is finally doing. (Sorry if this seems like rambling. Somewhere in there, there's a point I'm trying to make lol)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 16:38:05 GMT -5
First of I am a big Radiohead, Oasis and Coldplay fan... Oasis should have finished the reinvention they started on SOTSOG instead of getting scared by low sales and reverting to bland ballads, U2 (or should I say Brian Eno?) have changed style often enough but sadly never quality beyond "ok" , Coldplay to be fair never make the same album twice and always provide something noticably different but never deviate too far from the same pop-rock formula and the only exciting experimentation left for Radiohead is to write something happy.That's accurate as fuck, to say the least XDDDD Anyways, on the whole "What if Oasis would've Oasis kept going with their experimentation post-SOTSOG?", I think if they would've stuck with it, and combined some of the anthems & ballads they had with HC, it would've been absolutely immense. I think Go Let it Out, Roll it Over, Let's All Make Believe, and to a lesser extent, Gas Panic!, are great examples of how the traditional Oasis formula could've been magnified to new sonic heights with tasteful experimentation. While I believe Little by Little and Stop Crying Your Heart Out are wonderful songs, I can't help but think what Heathen Chemistry would've been like, had they expanded on some of the hints of electronica they had been putting into their songs (PYMWYMI comes to mind on this front). The Hindu Times' demo, and Force of Nature (with the electronic drums) sort of indicated what they were working at, but gave up in favor of the "traditional" sound. I think all of this is what makes DOYS so favorable, and CY so fascinating to look forward to, because of what Noel could've been expanding on years ago, but is finally doing. (Sorry if this seems like rambling. Somewhere in there, there's a point I'm trying to make lol) Makes perfect sense I LOVE Gas Panic!/THT demo and would have loved to hear a whole lot more of that pessimistic, verve-ish sound post 2000, it would have almost certainly have yielded more interesting albums that what we got. IMO HC/DBBT was the low point of Oasis as there was no-where left for them to go with that "anthem" sound - Noel should have recognised this and risked lower sales going for something darker sonically and lyrically. THT was a turning point as he took a electronica influenced avalanche of sound with great lyrics (The ghost that is your soul it leaves me cold) to a bland MOR anthem with shocking lyrics to boost commerciality.
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Post by fiv3oclocksh4dow on Dec 31, 2014 0:37:27 GMT -5
Ok you can lock the thread now as I have the ultimate band who NEVER EVOLVED .....GEORGE THOUROGOOD AND TNE DELEWARE DESTROYERS. the man only plsys 3 notes and tnere BAD TO THE BONE. Worst concert i ever saw Dunno that guy but Tom Petty must be in the Guinness book of records for most songs with three chords Really good example. In fact, his nephew is a friend of mine and apparently Tom doesn't listen to current music to prevent being influenced by new bands.
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Post by Sternumman on Jan 3, 2015 11:30:16 GMT -5
Dunno that guy but Tom Petty must be in the Guinness book of records for most songs with three chords Oh absolutely. He would be my second pick. But I kid you not. I've seen them both ( sadly ) live. Actually saw petty twice. He is very monotonous. But not even petty is a bad as as thorougood. Im telling you his whole set. Is 80 minute " Madison blues ". guy fingers are glued to those 3 notes. But petty is right there I thought Pretty and the Heartbreaker put on one of the best shows I ever saw.
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Post by Binary Sunset on Jan 3, 2015 14:40:17 GMT -5
Oh absolutely. He would be my second pick. But I kid you not. I've seen them both ( sadly ) live. Actually saw petty twice. He is very monotonous. But not even petty is a bad as as thorougood. Im telling you his whole set. Is 80 minute " Madison blues ". guy fingers are glued to those 3 notes. But petty is right there I thought Pretty and the Heartbreaker put on one of the best shows I ever saw. I thought so to. He has many different types of songs, and considering he went almost 30 years into his career until he had a bad record, I would say he's done alright.
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