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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 9:40:28 GMT -5
yesterday , I was with a friend at publix , I've known him for 6 years here , he has worked at PUBLIX here 23 ( the largest supermarket chain in south )
He really encapsulates what is wrong with america today and the world I assume .... He gets full time 38 hours a week and he needs a roomate to live above poverty line , he drives a hoopdee not a druggie , and has beer on weekends , he now is looking for a second job so he can live alone ,
Imagine if the man who is 47 had a family ?? Working for a reputable company , benefits, and still at poverty line ,he has a college degree but the jobs are subbed out overseas thst he is qualified for like so many here , he is not alone in this predicament , and it's why the country needs major overhaul , a overhaul that's not simply voting Demorcrat or republican , years ago you could work at a publix , for 25 years. And get matching 401k and live a nice middle class life or maybe lower mid class but live relatively comfortably and feed a family ,
The problem now is the country's job growth for skilled labor has stopped , it's being jobbed out overseas and tne regular jobs wages have not kept up with inflation , now you can work 38 hrs a week and need food stamps .....this is why tne country and others are broken and need much more than idiots who spouting party ideology to fix the situation , both parties had there chance , both have failed miserably it's time for reform not change , when working full time people can't live , it's broke and not getting better
And the same is true around the world ...something gotta give m and one step is paying people liveable wages to survive , or else
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Post by jakob61907 on Nov 7, 2014 10:02:24 GMT -5
Its true and it's very sad. It's not quite as bad here in Aus but Uk is pretty bad at the minute similar to the US. No party within that current system can do anything or arent willing. Its the system that needs to change because no matter the party that wins they all only cater for elite big businesses and not the working man. They don't represent the actual people living in their country so the system itself needs an overhaul. VIVA LA REVOLUTION
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 10:17:06 GMT -5
It's why I vote independent jakob61907 Im not actually talking Revolt or unrest like some whackos , im older il get by as always , but the younger people need to change the system for themselves , by stop supporting candidates based on party affiliation , race , or gender , Some idiots in America ate blaming it on OBAMA becsuse he is black ,, NO. it's because he is ineffective , the problem with the country is the MTV generation bought into voting for a black president. Not taking into account he only served like 2 years in Illinois house of rep , but it was '" the right and trendy thing " to do ...just like some idiot white trash people who are living in past vote for " the good ole boy " cause he's white and republican , both sides Are so off its sad , I don't care who runs country , white , black. Hispanic , Asian , woman , man , or who controls congress , just get it right The only. Way it will get right is ....if and when people wake up and vote issues , not party line , race , or gender , sounds easy right ? Now do it Edit : im not saying all people voted for Obama cause he was black , but a lot did ,that's just as bad as voting for say bush jr. Cause he's a good ole boy
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Post by Sternumman on Nov 8, 2014 6:23:15 GMT -5
It's why I vote independent jakob61907 Im not actually talking Revolt or unrest like some whackos , im older il get by as always , but the younger people need to change the system for themselves , by stop supporting candidates based on party affiliation , race , or gender , Some idiots in America ate blaming it on OBAMA becsuse he is black ,, NO. it's because he is ineffective , the problem with the country is the MTV generation bought into voting for a black president. Not taking into account he only served like 2 years in Illinois house of rep , but it was '" the right and trendy thing " to do ...just like some idiot white trash people who are living in past vote for " the good ole boy " cause he's white and republican , both sides Are so off its sad , I don't care who runs country , white , black. Hispanic , Asian , woman , man , or who controls congress , just get it right The only. Way it will get right is ....if and when people wake up and vote issues , not party line , race , or gender , sounds easy right ? Now do it Edit : im not saying all people voted for Obama cause he was black , but a lot did ,that's just as bad as voting for say bush jr. Cause he's a good ole boy The problem is in America it's a two party system. Voting for the Independent candidate is usually a throw a way vote because they'll never get elected or it can swing the election. In 2000 Bush "won" Florida by 537 votes. Nader received nearly 100k votes in the state. A majority of those votes would have went to Gore. Likewise in 88 when Clinton won. Perot stole a lot of Bush's votes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 9:02:48 GMT -5
It's why I vote independent jakob61907 Im not actually talking Revolt or unrest like some whackos , im older il get by as always , but the younger people need to change the system for themselves , by stop supporting candidates based on party affiliation , race , or gender , Some idiots in America ate blaming it on OBAMA becsuse he is black ,, NO. it's because he is ineffective , the problem with the country is the MTV generation bought into voting for a black president. Not taking into account he only served like 2 years in Illinois house of rep , but it was '" the right and trendy thing " to do ...just like some idiot white trash people who are living in past vote for " the good ole boy " cause he's white and republican , both sides Are so off its sad , I don't care who runs country , white , black. Hispanic , Asian , woman , man , or who controls congress , just get it right The only. Way it will get right is ....if and when people wake up and vote issues , not party line , race , or gender , sounds easy right ? Now do it Edit : im not saying all people voted for Obama cause he was black , but a lot did ,that's just as bad as voting for say bush jr. Cause he's a good ole boy The problem is in America it's a two party system. Voting for the Independent candidate is usually a throw a way vote because they'll never get elected or it can swing the election. In 2000 Bush "won" Florida by 537 votes. Nader received nearly 100k votes in the state. A majority of those votes would have went to Gore. Likewise in 88 when Clinton won. Perot stole a lot of Bush's votes. Oh , I'm sorry. I mean im independent of either party , I vote rep or den , and if I don't like I don't vote , I didn't mean I vote the independent party sorry
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2014 9:05:09 GMT -5
I agree voting independent is a theowawY and cost gore. I men I don't care. I liked CLINTON. So I voted for gore ., then I gpfelt we needed bush jr in 04 even tho I voted for gore in 2000. Right person for right time is what I mean irregardless of party
To many people just vote party line ...that's the problem
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 8, 2014 17:04:44 GMT -5
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Post by Elie De Beaufour 🐴 on Nov 11, 2014 5:48:38 GMT -5
Oh no: Obama is at APEC
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 11, 2014 10:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by Cast on Nov 11, 2014 11:02:09 GMT -5
An interesting piece but I don't agree with 100% of it. The most agreeable statement in it is the fact that when the President was elected he was the President. He wasn't a Democrat or a Republican. "In president Obama, Americans have the real deal, the whole package, and a leader that citizens of almost every country around the world look to with great envy" Other countries may envy him and all that but at the end of the day he's America's President. I think he is a really smart dude, great charisma, really I like Obama as a person, but he isn't a super awesome President. I don't think he's a horrible one, but in 2008 there was some real hope. I went to his inauguration in 2008. The excitement surrounding that day was palpable. I didn't particularly like him or McCain but I was optimistic and hopeful that we as a country could move forward after the crisis and Bush. Obama hasn't really failed but I don't know if I'd call him a raging success either. A lot of that falls of the bullshit republican/democrat split that is literally destroying our country. Obama can only do so much so I can't and I won't blame him for a lot of what is going on, but I'm not sure he is a great leader. Again, that might be because of the partisanship that divides and conquers our country. He's a great speaker whose smart but if you told my 2008 self what he has done in the last 6 years I'd be a little disappointed. Another troubling aspect that Obama's tenure has shown me is that blatant racism still exists today. So much so that even our President gets abused. People hid behind the fact that they are Republican but really a lot of them are just straight up racist towards Obama. A majority of Dem's and Republican's both don't give a shit about us. They care of their lobbyists who keep their funds rolling in. The lobbyists can buy people on either side of the aisle, it doesn't matter. Our first lady got bought out by the food industries. Her "Let's move" campaign wasn't solely an exercise movement. It was originally a movement to promote healthy eating/diet for children, but she shifted her focus to exercise after Coke, and other companies gave their endorsement. I mean come on... Politicians are supposed to serve the people and protect us from being take advantage of by these huge corporate enterprises. They're not doing it. They're sleeping with them. All the while jackasses and elephants are bickering to what is the equivalent white noise.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Nov 11, 2014 17:40:44 GMT -5
An interesting piece but I don't agree with 100% of it. The most agreeable statement in it is the fact that when the President was elected he was the President. He wasn't a Democrat or a Republican. "In president Obama, Americans have the real deal, the whole package, and a leader that citizens of almost every country around the world look to with great envy" Other countries may envy him and all that but at the end of the day he's America's President. I think he is a really smart dude, great charisma, really I like Obama as a person, but he isn't a super awesome President. I don't think he's a horrible one, but in 2008 there was some real hope. I went to his inauguration in 2008. The excitement surrounding that day was palpable. I didn't particularly like him or McCain but I was optimistic and hopeful that we as a country could move forward after the crisis and Bush. Obama hasn't really failed but I don't know if I'd call him a raging success either. A lot of that falls of the bullshit republican/democrat split that is literally destroying our country. Obama can only do so much so I can't and I won't blame him for a lot of what is going on, but I'm not sure he is a great leader. Again, that might be because of the partisanship that divides and conquers our country. He's a great speaker whose smart but if you told my 2008 self what he has done in the last 6 years I'd be a little disappointed. Another troubling aspect that Obama's tenure has shown me is that blatant racism still exists today. So much so that even our President gets abused. People hid behind the fact that they are Republican but really a lot of them are just straight up racist towards Obama. A majority of Dem's and Republican's both don't give a shit about us. They care of their lobbyists who keep their funds rolling in. The lobbyists can buy people on either side of the aisle, it doesn't matter. Our first lady got bought out by the food industries. Her "Let's move" campaign wasn't solely an exercise movement. It was originally a movement to promote healthy eating/diet for children, but she shifted her focus to exercise after Coke, and other companies gave their endorsement. I mean come on... Politicians are supposed to serve the people and protect us from being take advantage of by these huge corporate enterprises. They're not doing it. They're sleeping with them. All the while jackasses and elephants are bickering to what is the equivalent white noise. Well, the President's too nice and has way too much class....too much class for the Republican Party. And yeah, his presidency has been a disappointment but he's dealing with the Republican Party, specifically the TEA Party. I didn't even know what "TEA" party meant til a couple months ago - "Taxed Enough Already". Well, I suggest to those persons, go live off the grid. Dig a well for water, dispose of your own refuse, etc. care for themselves because they only care about themselves. I'd say more but it's not worth my time. That's not directed at you, that's just how I feel about politics in general. If a republican is elected President in 2016, which I seriously doubt happens, I do wish them well and hope they succeed because I see the bigger picture. God bless.
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Post by NYR on Nov 18, 2014 15:30:32 GMT -5
Barack Obama isn't all that he was shaped up to be, but think about this. Under Obama, the economy is growing at a 3.5 percent. Gas is under three dollars a gallon. The stock market is at record levels, and our deficits have been cut in half. Ten million more Americans have health insurance, and unemployment is now under six percent.
Considering what he was given when he first took office in 2009 (and with an uncooperative Congress filled with Republicans doing everything they can to undermine him every step of the way), that's fairly impressive.
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Post by mkoasis on Nov 19, 2014 22:41:22 GMT -5
A majority of Dem's and Republican's both don't give a shit about us. They care of their lobbyists who keep their funds rolling in. The lobbyists can buy people on either side of the aisle, it doesn't matter. Our first lady got bought out by the food industries. Her "Let's move" campaign wasn't solely an exercise movement. It was originally a movement to promote healthy eating/diet for children, but she shifted her focus to exercise after Coke, and other companies gave their endorsement. I mean come on... Politicians are supposed to serve the people and protect us from being take advantage of by these huge corporate enterprises. They're not doing it. They're sleeping with them. All the while jackasses and elephants are bickering to what is the equivalent white noise. You've nailed it. The "Let's Move" campaign is the perfect example of this disturbing situation. Massive companies like Cocacola are relying on the continued chronic underfunding of schools so that they get exclusive contracts and the schools get a few coins thrown their way. Fully supporting public schools would not make Cocacola very happy as it deprives them of a market. And we all know how much public schools and kids need more such products, with rampant diabetes and obesity very much in the now. And those things will cost even more to deal with through the health care system. So ultimately, who benefits? That's what I always ask myself: who benefits?
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