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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 3, 2014 8:22:44 GMT -5
Just found out that it's Liam who is singing the "you and i are gonna live forever" part on the record.
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Post by asimarx on Nov 3, 2014 9:49:46 GMT -5
Just found out that it's Liam who is singing the "you and i are gonna live forever" part on the record. Much debate went into this over the years and actually it's supposed to be Owen Morris and Marcus Russell, it doesn't really sound like a doubletracked Liam to my ears anyway. Here's a quote from Owen, taken from Davidjay's brilliant site: Owen Morris: ‘The only thing I remember of interest about [Live Forever] was that officially that high bit wasn’t either Noel or Liam – it was actually me and Marcus [Russell, Oasis's manager]. One for the trainspotters there. The Welsh choir came in.’ (Morris, quoted in Easter Egg on Definitely Maybe DVD). www.oasis-recordinginfo.co.uk/?page_id=289 |
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Post by cigsandalc on Nov 3, 2014 10:04:04 GMT -5
Liam sang it live in 94...and he even hold the mic in the hand
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Post by spud on Nov 3, 2014 10:16:27 GMT -5
Nah it's definitely Liam. Why on earth wouldn't it be?
Also, I uploaded that video. Haha.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 3, 2014 11:16:49 GMT -5
Just sounds like Liam to me.
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 3, 2014 11:30:36 GMT -5
For some reason i always thought it's Noel.
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Post by beentherenow on Nov 3, 2014 11:43:35 GMT -5
Heard that bit on the DVD about the 'Welsh Choir' but it clearly sounds like Liam and I always thought it was Liam,
Obviously live from mid 94 it was Noel but as a lot of people who heard early Liam's vocals would say, his voice had a range which would astound people who only heard his later growl |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 11:47:58 GMT -5
On one of the early live versions of Live Forever (possibly Gleneagles?) Liam sings it EXACTLY like the record, just not doubletracked obviously. I've always thought it was him personally.
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Post by rekrelf on Nov 3, 2014 11:53:05 GMT -5
On one of the early live versions of Live Forever (possibly Gleneagles?) Liam sings it EXACTLY like the record, just not doubletracked obviously. I've always thought it was him personally. Yes, he sings it Gleneagles and Glastonbury 1994... |
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Post by davidjay on Nov 3, 2014 12:45:09 GMT -5
I think this came up a few months back, so I thought I'd re-post my notes on this in case it's any help. On this unreleased version the falsetto part is sung by Liam. Recording engineer Anjali Dutt has confirmed that this was recorded between 24th February - 4th March 1994 at Sawmills Studio, Cornwall and mixed at Eden Studios in London between 7th - 25th March 1994. These sessions were co-produced by Noel Gallagher and Mark Coyle and engineered by Anjali Dutt. When the band decided that the Eden Studios mix didn't quite capture the sound they were after the Sawmills recordings (including Live Forever) were handed to Owen Morris to be remixed. Morris got the job after successfully remixing Rock n Roll Star and Columbia at Loco Studios on 23rd - 24th April 1994. (Note: the dates here are taken from the Melody Maker article on the making of DM from October '94. However these appear to be wrong in that case, as the multi-track master tape for that session (shown in the reissue sleeve notes) says 2 April '94). They also re-recorded the lead vocals on both songs (this is apparently the session where Liam said to Morris "you're Phil Spector and I'm John Lennon", which Noel wasn't too impressed with!). Owen Morris takes up the story:
Live Forever (Owen Morris mix)Live Forever (Isolated lead vocal - re recorded version)So the album version is a remix and partial re-recording of the Sawmills take. I always thought that it was Liam singing, given that in various live recordings from this period he often sings the high part. But listening closely to the isolated vocal from Guitar Hero the high part does have a slightly different character to it. It also seems to have a different effect applied). Owen Morris commented on the Live Forever vocal in an Easter Egg hidden on the Definitely Maybe DVD. Also, the Sawmills tracking sheet for Live Forever (on display at the Chasing the Sun exhibition earlier this year) shows that Owen Morris re-recorded new falsettos onto tracks 9 and 10 of the multitrack master, replacing two room ambience tracks from the original tracking session.  |
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Post by carlober on Nov 3, 2014 13:04:50 GMT -5
davidjay's posts are the best contributions on here, by far. Top stuff...
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 3, 2014 13:14:28 GMT -5
davidjay's posts are the best contributions on here, by far. Top stuff... We, all the Oasis fans owe davidjay a lot for informations and efforts he's been sharing with all of us for years.  |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Nov 3, 2014 13:17:56 GMT -5
I knew there's something weird about these vocals.
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Post by spud on Nov 3, 2014 15:45:49 GMT -5
Just listened to the isolated vocals again and it's 100% Liam to my ears.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 17:32:40 GMT -5
Just listened to the isolated vocals again and it's 100% Liam to my ears. Same. Maybe that's because the video I'm watching is a picture of Liam singing and subconsciously I am expecting to hear his voice. |
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Post by spud on Nov 3, 2014 19:30:52 GMT -5
Just listened to the isolated vocals again and it's 100% Liam to my ears. Same. Maybe that's because the video I'm watching is a picture of Liam singing and subconsciously I am expecting to hear his voice. It's the 'ver' of 'forever' that convinces me. I think Owen Morris was probably just having a laugh when he said it was him and Marcus Russell, trying to create one of those rock 'n' roll rumours. |
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