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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 17:45:48 GMT -5
With the announcement that Beady Eye are no more, I've been listening back to the music again, along with some playlists I made of L/A/G Oasis-era stuff and it got me to thinking about their respective contributions. Thought people might be interested to see who did what...
LIAM (26: 14 oasis, 13 beady eye // 20 album tracks, 7 non-album)
Little James (SOTSOG)
Songbird (HC)
Born On A Different Cloud (HC)
Better Man (HC)
Love Like A Bomb (DBTT)
The Meaning Of Soul (DBTT)
Guess God Thinks I'm Abel (DBTT)
Won't Let You Down (DBTT b-side)
Pass Me Down The Wine (DBTT b-side)
I'm Outta Time (DOYS)
Ain't Got Nothin (DOYS)
Soldier On (DOYS)
Boy With The Blues (DOYS b-side)
I Believe In All (DOYS b-side)
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Morning Son (DGSS)
Bring the Light (DGSS)
Wigwam (DGSS)
For Anyone (DGSS)
Beatles and Stones (DGSS)
Man of Misery (DGSS b-side)
Flick Of The Finger (BE)
Soul Love (BE)
Don't Brother Me (BE)
Shine A Light (BE)
Start Anew (BE)
The World's Not Set In Stone (BE b-side)
Evil Eye (BE b-side)
GEM (17: 5 oasis, 12 beady eye // 10 album tracks, 7 non-album)
Hung In A Bad Place (HC)
A Bell Will Ring (DBTT)
Eyeball Tickler (DBTT b-side)
The Quiet Ones (DBTT b-side)
To Be Where There's Life (DOYS)
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Three Ring Circus (DGSS)
Standing On The Edge Of The Noise (DGSS)
The Roller (DGSS)
Wind Up Dream (DGSS)
Two of a Kind (DGSS b-side)
In The Bubble with a Bullet (DGSS b-side)
Yellow Tail (DGSS unreleased instrumental)
Second Bite of the Apple (BE)
Iz Rite (BE)
Ballroom Figured (BE)
Back After The Break (BE b-side)
Off At The Next Exit (BE b-side)
ANDY (15: 5 oasis, 10 beady eye // 11 album tracks, 4 non-album)
A Quick Peep (HC)
Thank You For The Good Times (HC b-side)
Turn Up The Sun (DBTT)
Keep The Dream Alive (DBTT)
The Nature Of Reality (DOYS)
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The Beat Goes On (DGSS)
Millionaire (DGSS)
Kill For A Dream (DGSS)
Four Letter Word (DGSS)
The World Outside My Room (DGSS b-side)
Face The Crowd (BE)
Soon Come Tomorrow (BE)
I'm Just Saying (BE)
Dreaming Of Some Space (BE b-side)
Girls In Uniform (BE b-side)
My personal highlights from each writer are below - would be curious to see what you guys like. In going through the list, I'm definitely more in the 'Noel' camp generally, as there's few of these songs I'm particularly passionate about. However, I do like all these below, and have made them a playlist on shuffle this week after the announcement:
Liam:
- Songbird
- Better Man
- The Meaning Of Soul
- Ain't Got Nothin'
- Soldier On
- Soul Love
(Other than Songbird, I think I have different tastes to a lot of people on here!)
Gem:
- Hung In A Bad Place (I really like it, know it's not popular round here)
- Eyeball Tickler
- The Roller
- In The Bubble With A Bullet
- Back After The Break
- Off At The Next Exit
(Those last two b-sides are probably up there with my favourites out of all of these tracks.)
Andy:
- Turn Up The Sun
- Kill For A Dream
- Four Letter Word
- The World Outside My Room
- Soon Come Tomorrow
- I'm Just Saying
Lastly, have I mis-allocated any of these songs to the wrong writer? It's quite hard to find out who wrote some of the DGSS tracks particularly.
TWB.
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Post by matt on Oct 27, 2014 19:01:10 GMT -5
Liam's songs have an effortless feel and charm to them that Andy and Gem didn't have I think. Very inconsistent, but when he gets it good, its very good.
I can't really think of any Andy and Gem songs that really stick in my mind, but Liam's got some great tunes and melodies going on. Like I said, Flick of the Finger is in my opinion the best thing he's done. There are a handful of great songs - the only Beady Eye songs I like are the ones written by Liam.
I've never been keen on his 'rockers', mostly terrible - but in fact, I've never thought both Gallagher's have been particularly strong 'rock' song writers. There have undoubtedly been great rock songs written by Noel (e.g. Headshrinker, Morning Glory etc), but its outnumbered by the songs with the big melodic and emotive choruses in my opinion. It's probably why I don't like Dig Out Your Soul that much - its their most rock album and the melodies aren't really there.
The pair of them though excel in melody and emotion rather than being outright rockers. So I've always thought Oasis were primarily more 'pop' than 'rock' - though pop songs stick in my mind more than rock songs, so maybe it's just a bias towards that. Dunno what others think?
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Post by footballdropout on Oct 27, 2014 22:03:55 GMT -5
I love Off at the Next exit and Back after the Break, they're both so haunting and Liam really nails the vocal. In the Bubble with a Bullet and the Roller are pretty solid songs as well, so I'll have to go with Gem. Did anybody else think that Back after the Break was oddly poignant after Gem's injury and the subsequent poor tour?
"In this scene, do I fall right here?
It's not been my close-up after all"
basically says it all even though it was written before any of that took place.
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 27, 2014 22:57:27 GMT -5
LIam wins by default because Andy and Gem wrote all of my least favorite Oasis album tracks w/ the exception of TUTS and HIABP. If you take ten songs from Liams output in Oasis and BE you could make a pretty decent album.
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Post by World71R on Oct 27, 2014 23:10:05 GMT -5
I think the best ones go like this:
HC: Liam's Songbird
DBTT: Andy's Turn Up the Sun, Gem/Liam collab of Love Like a Bomb
DOYS: Liam's I'm Outta Time, Gem's To Be Where There's Life
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DGSS: Gem's The Roller, Andy's Four Letter Word, Liam's Morning Son (that was a tough one)
BE: Gem's Second Bite of the Apple (musically outstanding), Andy's Soon Come Tomorrow (fav BDI song), and Liam's Flick of the Finger (another tough choice).
So, Liam's the best of them. I noticed, while doing that, that the consistencies in his worked sky-fucking-rocketed post-Oasis. That wasn't obvious enough, as to why, eh? Lol
Note: I AM a big Noel fan too.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 28, 2014 0:16:10 GMT -5
I think the best ones go like this: HC: Liam's Songbird DBTT: Andy's Turn Up the Sun, Gem/Liam collab of Love Like a Bomb DOYS: Liam's I'm Outta Time, Gem's To Be Where There's Life ----------------------------------------------------------------- DGSS: Gem's The Roller, Andy's Four Letter Word, Liam's Morning Son (that was a tough one) BE: Gem's Second Bite of the Apple (musically outstanding), Andy's Soon Come Tomorrow (fav BDI song), and Liam's Flick of the Finger (another tough choice). So, Liam's the best of them. I noticed, while doing that, that the consistencies in his worked sky-fucking-rocketed post-Oasis. That wasn't obvious enough, as to why, eh? Lol Note: I AM a big Noel fan too. Isn't Flick of the Finger credited to all of them? Also, I've always thought the lyrics were Andy just because they sound like Andy would have written them. |
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Post by icebreath on Oct 28, 2014 3:19:48 GMT -5
I think the best ones go like this: HC: Liam's Songbird DBTT: Andy's Turn Up the Sun, Gem/Liam collab of Love Like a Bomb DOYS: Liam's I'm Outta Time, Gem's To Be Where There's Life ----------------------------------------------------------------- DGSS: Gem's The Roller, Andy's Four Letter Word, Liam's Morning Son (that was a tough one) BE: Gem's Second Bite of the Apple (musically outstanding), Andy's Soon Come Tomorrow (fav BDI song), and Liam's Flick of the Finger (another tough choice). So, Liam's the best of them. I noticed, while doing that, that the consistencies in his worked sky-fucking-rocketed post-Oasis. That wasn't obvious enough, as to why, eh? Lol Note: I AM a big Noel fan too. Isn't Flick of the Finger credited to all of them? Also, I've always thought the lyrics were Andy just because they sound like Andy would have written them. The music is by Liam from the old demo "Velvet Building" scraped from DIV Sessions. The lyrics were written by Andy and Gem. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 28, 2014 3:20:13 GMT -5
When you just look at their Oasis output Liam wins for me, but when you look at their Beady Eye output it's a tie between Liam and Gem for me. And that's just because Flick Of The Finger is a really good song, so maybe Gem wins because he has written more songs in Beady Eye that I like
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 28, 2014 7:09:13 GMT -5
Andy is by far the most skilled songwriter in those three, but i really like some of Gem's little tunes and lyrics like The Roller alcohol lemon haze, Hung In A Bad Place banana skin feet dyou know what i mean,Second Bite Of The Apple, Bell Will Ring he's a wordsmith, got his own style, and i admire his Beatles/ Stones/ Who vibe to it. Liam on the other hand seems to be putting the most heart and soul in his songs. I think some of Liam's lyrics are incredible. So even though Andy can write some really badass tunes like Turn Up The Sun, Four Letter Word which for sure Gem or Liam would never wrote, i'd vote 1.Liam, 2.Gem, 3.Andy.
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Post by Rain on Oct 28, 2014 7:25:02 GMT -5
Born On A Different Cloud -LG
The Roller - Gem... Biggest Beady Eye hit
Keep The Dream Alive - Andy... I personally like it
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Post by joladella on Oct 28, 2014 7:26:48 GMT -5
As Liam has written most of my favorite songs from Beady Eye (Morning Son, Shine a light ...) and some of them from Oasis (Guess God thinks I'm Abel, Born on a different cloud, ...) he gets my vote.
But I guess I was always destined to be a Beady Eye fan, because the first Oasis album I fell in love with was the "LAG" heavy "Don't believe the truth".
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Post by Regi on Oct 28, 2014 7:32:38 GMT -5
They've all had their moments. Was never a big fan of Gem's songs, but he pulled out some crackers on the BE album, especially the b-sides.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Oct 28, 2014 13:27:43 GMT -5
learned "A bell will ring" right now on the guitar by listening to it. fun to play and was the track, that built my love to oasis.
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Post by dtr2014 on Oct 29, 2014 8:12:06 GMT -5
Liam
Gem
Andy Bell
in that order.
I like Liam's stuff, but would rather it get polished by Noel rather than Gem.
Gem's ok.
I have no use for the shoe gazer......
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 29, 2014 8:18:34 GMT -5
Too soon.
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Post by squire on Oct 29, 2014 9:55:29 GMT -5
Frankly they are all average songwriters that had good moments. I'd probably go with Liam for Oasis and Andy for Beady Eye (he wrote World Outside My Room and Kill for a Dream) but it's close
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Post by spud on Oct 29, 2014 11:20:57 GMT -5
Flick Of The Finger was essentially a collaborative effort.
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