|
Post by longwaytorun on Oct 23, 2014 11:36:12 GMT -5
It's crazy how Oasis is one of the biggest bands in the world, yet virtually unknown in the US. Are they the biggest of all time? How did this happen?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 11:52:22 GMT -5
It's been written here forever why , Short version. Cancelled gigs , djs did not get there humour inn niter views thought arrogant , needed subtitles to be understood on MTV , there bravado which I love was perceived as cocky and arrogant and disrespectful .... Media here took biggest band in world proclamation as bigger than BEATLES and stones , noel did t help by saying that was goal ..Bhn flopped and with all the bad press from what I just said they basically became a blip until DBTT and even then it faded quick ....
Hope that helps , I hate it but it's true ,are they biggest not known ? I would say yes they are , others would call them a glorified cover band of beatles, stones, ect ect ,
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 12:01:45 GMT -5
Basically from 97-04 everything you could do to screw up a carrear in USA , not playing the game you have to play here that you don't in UK , Oasis did , it gained them hardcore fans like me , but alienated the media , and a lot of music fans not as rabid as me , the term " lager lout " was granted to them and they were made the butt of many jokes on gossip pages , they basically shot themselves in foot , for foolishly thinking what worked in UK would work here , it really backfired , especially the cancelled gigs and brashness toward media and each other really , it did t translate to mainstream and they fell off radar
|
|
|
Post by Headmaster on Oct 23, 2014 12:26:37 GMT -5
Also The Who isn't big in USA, I guess.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 12:33:08 GMT -5
Also The Who isn't big in USA, I guess. No not really. If your talking townsend/ daltrey calling themselves the who still then yes I agree .....however "the who "even after keith passéd were absolutely huge !!!! "THERE FAREWELL TOUR in 82 " not only was stadium sell outs 60.000 plus but nationally covered on TV and the newpapers , there was a famous photo of pete and roger smoking a joint during baba orielly on stage as the front page of daily news and post in NYC ....they were huge here What is being passed off as " the who " now is rightfully in my view not being seen as huge , but the who are / were absolutely Giants from woodstock TIL after the OX passed really ... Also in every top rock station countdown won't get fooled again is in top 5. And they are always EXTREMELY WELL REPRESENTED IN THOSE COUNTDOWNS
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 23, 2014 12:34:17 GMT -5
Also The Who isn't big in USA, I guess. The Who have been selling out arenas across America since the mid 70s. Impressive.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 12:38:34 GMT -5
Also The Who isn't big in USA, I guess. The Who have been selling out arenas across America since the mid 70s. Impressive. Even outdoor they were selling out bigger than arenas m the who,e riverfront stadium fiasco was in like 78 i believe
|
|
|
Post by spud on Oct 23, 2014 15:20:38 GMT -5
It's because they went and toured America at a time when they were absolutely huge in Britain, much to Liam's displeasure. He essentially did everything in his power to sabotage the US tour because he wanted to be in the centre of the party at home.
|
|
|
Post by Frodis on Oct 23, 2014 17:50:41 GMT -5
It's crazy how Oasis is one of the biggest bands in the world, yet virtually unknown in the US. Are they the biggest of all time? How did this happen? I wouldn't say they are unknown in the States. People know of them, they just choose to not like them or ridicule them. The gigs I went to from 2006-2008 were pretty full (not sell out) but judging from the turn out of those shows, I'd hardly say they are unknown over here.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 18:20:08 GMT -5
you can add the kinks to that list as well.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 18:36:44 GMT -5
you can add the kinks to that list as well. No doubt , but the kinks are much more known than oasis are imo ....especially to my generation .....I would say the best analogy would be "the jam " if they reunited now in UK they can sell out knebworth ...in the states. Like WELLER solo the beacon theatre is there Max here , I can't see them selling out msg and that blows .......talk about your kids not knowing a band , in states the jam is short for Pearl jam by the under 30 crowd , that's who I would add ..... The jam cause there older are even less known than oasis who are known just not like they should be .......oasis can sell out msg ... The jam I really can't see doing that , yet both would command knebworth multi nights
|
|
|
Post by Binary Sunset on Oct 23, 2014 19:46:27 GMT -5
Also The Who isn't big in USA, I guess. Haven't you ever seen The Concert for New York City? That was after Keith Moon, and they got by far the biggest reaction of anyone, Paul McCartney, Mick Jagger, etc included
|
|
|
Post by Corky Ianucci on Oct 23, 2014 19:56:27 GMT -5
Oasis were the most popular band in the U.S. during the summer of 1996.
God bless.
|
|
|
Post by freddy838 on Oct 24, 2014 4:37:14 GMT -5
Didn't The Who headline the Superbowl a few years back? And have a guest spot on The Simpsons? They must be big over there.
Anyway, if a video sums up why Oasis never made it in the US. The way the video pans out in the first 5 seconds to show Liam cracks me up every time.
|
|
|
Post by vespa on Oct 24, 2014 6:45:22 GMT -5
a few pointers here ,
*the who tour the states more regularly than they do the uk as they probably sell more tickets .
*anyone that relates to t rex as drivel doesnt know music
*oasis have a fanbase in america and continue to do so , they were still selling or nearly selling out arenas , there last 2 tours of america were there biggest . people make out they havent ever had any impact on the states and its nonsense , yes the days of them selling a million albums over there were gone but they were still shifting a few hundred thousand copies and selling a few tickets its hardly like they were unknown.
* the jam would not sell out multiple nights at knebworth , theres only 2 acts in the uk that would do that and i dooubt one of them would now cos theyve lost another member and that is oasis and take that.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 8:17:56 GMT -5
a few pointers here , *the who tour the states more regularly than they do the uk as they probably sell more tickets . *anyone that relates to t rex as drivel doesnt know music *oasis have a fanbase in america and continue to do so , they were still selling or nearly selling out arenas , there last 2 tours of america were there biggest . people make out they havent ever had any impact on the states and its nonsense , yes the days of them selling a million albums over there were gone but they were still shifting a few hundred thousand copies and selling a few tickets its hardly like they were unknown. * the jam would not sell out multiple nights at knebworth , theres only 2 acts in the uk that would do that and i dooubt one of them would now cos theyve lost another member and that is oasis and take that. Agree on most of what you said .......the jam would sell knebworth can't agree on that , but thsts your opinion , , yes oasis have a fan base in states , but it's more cult like , there sellouts in states were not real " sell outs " the msg shows blocked off many sections that generally for big bands are offered for sale behind the stage , they weren't offered for oasis , so it was not a Zep , bruce U2 like sellout ,
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 24, 2014 8:39:53 GMT -5
Apparently Robbie Williams has sold something like a billion records but probably only 8 copies in America.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 8:46:29 GMT -5
robbie is so huge in the UK it's unreal , even the Rock clubs I went to , not the pop ones. Would play " take that " and robbie, and Angel always played , plus Rock DJ , and guys I would say looked. Cool were singing every note , Rock DJ is sorta catchy when I'm on a pissup
|
|
|
Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 24, 2014 8:50:43 GMT -5
Apparently Robbie Williams has sold something like a billion records but probably only 8 copies in America. So Robbie Williams is to America what Robin Thicke is to...pretty much the entire world?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 8:51:30 GMT -5
It's crazy how Oasis is one of the biggest bands in the world, yet virtually unknown in the US. Are they the biggest of all time? How did this happen? I wouldn't say they are unknown in the States. People know of them, they just choose to not like them or ridicule them. The gigs I went to from 2006-2008 were pretty full (not sell out) but judging from the turn out of those shows, I'd hardly say they are unknown over here. Yep goid crowds , not a real sellout as I said above , tney DEFINATLY "blocked " off more seats than others , but that's cool ,, it lime this ...I think OASIS in the states are bigger everywhere than only to play to 5,000 , but not on the level of U2 to command. 19,000 every city they tour , there more like a 10 to 15,000 statewide , and close to capacity if not full capacity in nyc la chitown , make sense ? Saw you had a date , hope your second one goes well
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 9:19:23 GMT -5
Apparently Robbie Williams has sold something like a billion records but probably only 8 copies in America. That's why the UK culture fascinates me man. Our pop stars there are huge , Beyoncé , timberlake ,ect ect ,,,,but there biggest pop stars here are almost nonexistent sales wise robbie , take that. Paul young , ect ect ....Then look at QUEEN !!! Big here BUT LEGENDS FOR ALL TIME THERE , they are very more open minded imo toward music thsn we are , there you can like the pistols to robbie and fit in , kinda cool
|
|
|
Post by vespa on Oct 24, 2014 9:19:35 GMT -5
take that are huge in the uk but they down to 3 now so wont be as big , robbie is not the force he was either .. the only band to sell out nights would be oasis and a full take that , the obvious like led zep or somebody would but not the extent oasis and take that would .Oasis are huge over here , not juts album sales but the whole package , media attention etc
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 9:40:02 GMT -5
take that are huge in the uk but they down to 3 now so wont be as big , robbie is not the force he was either .. the only band to sell out nights would be oasis and a full take that , the obvious like led zep or somebody would but not the extent oasis and take that would .Oasis are huge over here , not juts album sales but the whole package , media attention etc it all depends my friend You don't have to tell me how huge oasis are in UK " whole package " wise. when it comes to Zep , the stones and even the jam , NME just last year said the jam could do 4 nights there when reunion rumours were fanned but weller put a quick kibosh on that And I agree with you , to me it all depends on would tne people who love zep ,the stones go to gigs of that magnitude because there older now ,most won't want to be arsed to do that I think. Sorta been there done that ....where a oasis reunion would attract the younger 35 and U der who will still go to a huge event , and me as well . I see your point but I still think the jam ZEP stones if there older based could be arsed can fill k ev worth more than one night imo
|
|