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Post by spaneli on Jan 27, 2015 10:20:52 GMT -5
I've been adamant since this album was announced that Noel should really promote outside of the UK. His UK gigs will always sell out. His album will get to #1. His singles will be played on the radio. It's never made much sense to me that 90% of his efforts are in the UK. It's always made far more sense to do promotion where he actually needs it. Where actually needs to expand his fan base. Japan and the US used to he strong markets. But it's clear that in the US he doesn't have the type of fan base to just announce gigs without anything behind it. Last time he was really into coming here and promoting. Whether it was listening parties or premiering IIHAG on American radio there was far more of a presence by him. Especially, when it came to doing interviews for american magazines. This time around you can hear a pin drop. He's made no effort here and it shows in the ticket sales. He's not the kind of artist who can afford to do shows here without some establishing work. His team might have been given a little bit too much confidence from the last tour to be embolden enough to take the course they have taken here. He did a lot of good work here last time, but you can't rest on that. You have to build on it. He's missed the chance to do that over the course of the last three months and it's going yo hurt him where it will hurt the most: ticket sales. And even Noel can't afford to take hits in ticket sales. Thanks for being adamant. I'm not sure what kind of promotion you think it would take for him to play more than ~ 1500-3,000 seat venues in the US but it will never happen. He's a 50 year old guy from the UK from some band that most here have never even heard of. The time has LONG passed. Not like the US was EVER really a "strong" market for even Oasis. They played 16-18k basketball arenas at BEST in most markets (with of course- crucially- a relatively small number of regional dates) and there were PLENTY of seats left in almost all of them. I know because I was there. That said, he'll sell out or nearly sell out his 15-20 dates and 40,000 tickets over the next 3-4 months because they're stretched out over a massive country with 320 million people and there's an appropriate number of people who will pay $60-$80 to see him. It's not that it ("promotion") doesn't matter at ALL...it's just that it doesn't matter a whole lot at this stage of the game with an artist who's been making music for 20+ years. I'd take the time to explain why his outfit spends 95% of their time pushing him in the UK/Europe, but I can't be bothered at the moment. Be happy you can seem him at all here-- never mind in these relatively tiny venues. It suits him, his music, his popularity, and his fan base, perfectly, actually. One, where in my posts did I say I wanted him to play to more than 3k people in my post? Nowhere. I'd like him to fill the gigs he has. That's what my post was about. Noel did a lot of good things here. Pushed a single specifically for America, did listening parties with american press, did a shit ton of interviews, played the venues and areas he knew he could fill and the more random locales did a double headliner act. My issue, is that he's clearly over extended himself and not done anything to sell those gigs. Which you would know if you had read my post. It's not about playing to 20k people. It's about not being beady eye and having sustainable tours here. But if he's playing to half filled theaters then that helps no one. Certainly didn't help me, who as you said, should be happy I get these gigs. Still waiting on that beady eye gig for the BE tour. Cause you know, everyone in American is guaranteed a show and has no reason to complain. But I'm glad that your glad that I'm adamant. But next time I think you should take a little bit more time to read and create a more well rounded post instead of trying to begin one cleverly. Then I'd actually be responding to something that was about what argued. But I'm glad you accept my adamancy. |
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Post by jmp111181 on Jan 27, 2015 10:51:56 GMT -5
I live in New Orleans, and was completely shocked when the date was announced. In fact, the DAY BEFORE, I was complaining on Facebook about how many major tours completely bypass NOLA. The thing is, for as big a city as we are, we're a shit market for concert tours. It's been that way for years. Now, things have changed slightly because immediately after Katrina, we didn't have decent midsized venues other than House of Blues. You had the clubs, but our theatres all got destroyed, and then arenas. So I'm glad he's coming to the Civic cuz it's a great room. The other thing about NOLA, and this is one thing that keeps a lot of tours out, is it's not a pre-sale town. The city's concert industry, whether at a club, theatre, or areana, lives and dies by the walk up or day before sales. I've got full confidence the Civic will sell out, but not until day before or day of. It's like that all the time here. I'm a musician so I see it all the time, it's just how the city is. Third thing, neither Noel nor Oasis have ever set foot in the city, so it's a brand new market for an act who essentially has been all but invisible to most New Orleanlians for a long time. I'll be interested to see how it plays out, but I sure am happy he's coming. I'll be front row in the balcony geeking out. I don't really understand why Noel is playing places like New Orleans.Don't get me wrong, it's a great city but he should play the major cities on the east/west coast and Dallas/Atlanta in the south.Atlanta was always a great place for Oasis, Noel's show at the tabernacle was great. |
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Post by bandontherun on Jan 27, 2015 10:53:48 GMT -5
I was surprised that he will play the Joint in Vegas. That place holds around 4000 people, he will never sell that thing out. Why doesn't he play the Pearl ?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 27, 2015 10:56:38 GMT -5
I'm surprised no true New York City or Philadelphia dates. I'm sure Beady’s Here Now scared Noel away from Philly. You know, restraining order and all.  Noel playing a 40 minute slot at the Governors Balls in the late afternoon I is a travesty. Book a proper solo concert please. |
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Post by Ltrain on Jan 27, 2015 13:07:31 GMT -5
The problem is Noel is never gets played on the radio here or promoted over here. If he had his songs on the airwaves he would sell a lot more. I don't know what it takes to get him promoted over here. Maybe you have to pay a lot of money to get your shit on the radio because there is so much shitty music getting more attention it deserves because it's being played over here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 13:15:43 GMT -5
I live in New Orleans, and was completely shocked when the date was announced. In fact, the DAY BEFORE, I was complaining on Facebook about how many major tours completely bypass NOLA. The thing is, for as big a city as we are, we're a shit market for concert tours. It's been that way for years. Now, things have changed slightly because immediately after Katrina, we didn't have decent midsized venues other than House of Blues. You had the clubs, but our theatres all got destroyed, and then arenas. So I'm glad he's coming to the Civic cuz it's a great room. ......but I sure am happy he's coming. I'll be front row in the balcony geeking out. nice one. ENJOY the gig, man.  |
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Post by jmp111181 on Jan 27, 2015 16:29:56 GMT -5
Thanks man! Also, the tour is 3 months away. I envision there's gonna be an onslaught of press once the record is out, and as the North American dates get closer. I live in New Orleans, and was completely shocked when the date was announced. In fact, the DAY BEFORE, I was complaining on Facebook about how many major tours completely bypass NOLA. The thing is, for as big a city as we are, we're a shit market for concert tours. It's been that way for years. Now, things have changed slightly because immediately after Katrina, we didn't have decent midsized venues other than House of Blues. You had the clubs, but our theatres all got destroyed, and then arenas. So I'm glad he's coming to the Civic cuz it's a great room. ......but I sure am happy he's coming. I'll be front row in the balcony geeking out. nice one. ENJOY the gig, man. |
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Post by LSF on Jan 28, 2015 11:45:31 GMT -5
Slow down about ticket sales...the album's not even out yet.
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Post by ringo_mountbatten on Jan 28, 2015 18:34:07 GMT -5
I'm from Toronto and this is the same venue that the National Ballet of Canada performs in. It seems like a strange venue for a show like this....very posh etc. I think it acurately reflects the demographic of the current NGHFB fan. I did see Travis there in 2003 and it was perfectly fine for a venue. |
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 29, 2015 11:33:23 GMT -5
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Post by lamboasis on Jan 29, 2015 14:58:51 GMT -5
Checked out quickly Noel's dates, he's doing well in the big cities, not so well in others. Particularly New Orleans, Detroit and Vegas
Toronto 2, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, LA and Boston will sell out straight after the release of CY, I guess.
North American Tour (May & June 2015)
3/5, Sony Centre - Toronto - 3.191 - Sold Out
4/5, Sony Centre - Toronto - 3.191 - 70% full
10/5, Civic Theatre - New Orleans - 1.200 -
13/5, House of Blues - Houston - 1.500 - 99% full
14/5, Majestic Theatre - Dallas - 1.704 - 60% full
16/5, Humphrey's by the Bay - San Diego - 1.500 -
18/5, The Warfield - San Francisco - 2.300 - 60% full
20/5, Orpheum Theatre - Los Angeles - 2.000 - 85% full
22/5, The Joint - Las Vegas - 4.000 - Empty
29/5, Riviera Theatre - Chicago - 2.500 -
30/5, Pabst Theater - Milwaukee - 1.339 -
31/5, Royal Oak - Detroit - 1.700 - Empty
2/6, House of Blues - Cleveland - 1.200 - 99% full
4/6, Lincoln Theatre - Washington - 1.250 -
6/6, Opera House - Boston - 2.677 - 80% full
Box Office: around 15.000/31.252(15 gigs)
Gross Revenue around $1,5 (£1m)?
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Post by spaneli on Jan 29, 2015 15:23:45 GMT -5
Usually the Riv is a slow burn here. Even the last time there were still tickets available up until a month and here it was a near sold out show. Most shows at the Riv take a few months to sell out. Maybe because it's GA and people take their time with it knowing that they're fighting for a seat, but most shows there don't sell out quickly. Obviously, can't speak for the rest though.
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Post by jaq515 on Jan 29, 2015 16:58:59 GMT -5
Checked out quickly Noel's dates, he's doing well in the big cities, not so well in others. Particularly New Orleans, Detroit and Vegas Toronto 2, Houston, Dallas, San Francisco, LA and Boston will sell out straight after the release of CY, I guess. North American Tour (May & June 2015) 3/5, Sony Centre - Toronto - 3.191 - Sold Out 4/5, Sony Centre - Toronto - 3.191 - 70% full 10/5, Civic Theatre - New Orleans - 1.200 - 13/5, House of Blues - Houston - 1.500 - 99% full 14/5, Majestic Theatre - Dallas - 1.704 - 60% full 16/5, Humphrey's by the Bay - San Diego - 1.500 - 18/5, The Warfield - San Francisco - 2.300 - 60% full 20/5, Orpheum Theatre - Los Angeles - 2.000 - 85% full 22/5, The Joint - Las Vegas - 4.000 - Empty 29/5, Riviera Theatre - Chicago - 2.500 - 30/5, Pabst Theater - Milwaukee - 1.339 - 31/5, Royal Oak - Detroit - 1.700 - Empty 2/6, House of Blues - Cleveland - 1.200 - 99% full 4/6, Lincoln Theatre - Washington - 1.250 - 6/6, Opera House - Boston - 2.677 - 80% full Box Office: around 15.000/31.252(15 gigs) Gross Revenue around $1,5 (£1m)? can see why they can't be bothered with u.s market 30k crowd over a month with all the costs/ logisitics involved. Obviously I'm sure most of those cities populations drawf most cities outside the uk (except london / manc / brum) |
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Post by longwaytorun on Jan 30, 2015 14:57:44 GMT -5
Noel should open for the Foo Fighters in the US and have Dave Grohl do a 20 minute drum solo on AKA WHat a Life!
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Post by htd78 on Jan 30, 2015 21:28:27 GMT -5
Wish I could make the Cleveland show. Kind of surprised he's playing there.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Jan 31, 2015 3:28:19 GMT -5
I live in New Orleans, and was completely shocked when the date was announced. In fact, the DAY BEFORE, I was complaining on Facebook about how many major tours completely bypass NOLA. The thing is, for as big a city as we are, we're a shit market for concert tours. It's been that way for years. Now, things have changed slightly because immediately after Katrina, we didn't have decent midsized venues other than House of Blues. You had the clubs, but our theatres all got destroyed, and then arenas. So I'm glad he's coming to the Civic cuz it's a great room. The other thing about NOLA, and this is one thing that keeps a lot of tours out, is it's not a pre-sale town. The city's concert industry, whether at a club, theatre, or areana, lives and dies by the walk up or day before sales. I've got full confidence the Civic will sell out, but not until day before or day of. It's like that all the time here. I'm a musician so I see it all the time, it's just how the city is. Third thing, neither Noel nor Oasis have ever set foot in the city, so it's a brand new market for an act who essentially has been all but invisible to most New Orleanlians for a long time. I'll be interested to see how it plays out, but I sure am happy he's coming. I'll be front row in the balcony geeking out. Right there with you man. I'm so glad he's finally coming to Louisiana. Counting down the days! |
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Post by riverman on Jan 31, 2015 5:56:02 GMT -5
Noel NYC set will be 75 minutes long according to a reddit AMA with one of the promoters of governors ball. I think he plays Sunday not exactly sure.
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Post by meanstreak on Jan 31, 2015 10:16:43 GMT -5
ok who has all the front row pit seats for the Dallas show??
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Post by noeliam1976 on Jan 31, 2015 10:35:23 GMT -5
Oasis / 33 shows
Noel / 4 shows
Beady Eye / 4 shows
Noel plays Sunday and Monday in Toronto and then off to Atlanta on Friday May 8th
And what's inbetween these cities ?? Philly and Nyc
It sets up perfect for a Wednesday May 6th show
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 1, 2015 10:09:13 GMT -5
Hey Noel!!!!!!!!,
Play the island of Manhattan you vagina head!!!!!!!!!!
Love,
The Tri State Area Noel Fans
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Post by riverman on Feb 1, 2015 11:06:57 GMT -5
Doubt NYC will get another date other than governors ball, which sux, if he's playing and hr an 15 mins he might be headlining a smaller stage opposite drake or some bullshit... The contract might prohibit another NYC date close to governors ball so that he draws for the festival.
Only chance is that a date will be added later on as to let the governors ball tix sell first and then announce a show but it might not happen until he comes back to states if that happens
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Post by meanstreak on Feb 1, 2015 23:27:04 GMT -5
ok who has all the front row pit seats for the Dallas show?? Just bought 2 tix in the pit ($525 total) at the Majestic. Not sure if they're GA or what? You got got someone to go with? I'm solo driving up from Houston and bought a seat in row G on the right, I'm willing to pay big for a front row pit chair though! The Livenation seating map showed the pit as a seated section. |
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Post by Ltrain on Feb 2, 2015 15:25:16 GMT -5
I'm hoping to get there in the early afternoon for the DC show to get a glimpse of Noel. I've never seen him besides on stage. I saw Liam at a show in 2000 at the Patriot Center hanging out by the buses but never Noel before a gig.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 11:30:21 GMT -5
Did any one who ordered tickets for the Toronto shows on Noel's website get their tickets yet?
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Post by jeffrey on Feb 4, 2015 14:02:54 GMT -5
Just bought 2 tix in the pit ($525 total) at the Majestic. Not sure if they're GA or what? You got got someone to go with? I'm solo driving up from Houston and bought a seat in row G on the right, I'm willing to pay big for a front row pit chair though! The Livenation seating map showed the pit as a seated section. Sorry, but yes I do have someone going with me. If for some reason they should cancel, I'll definitely let you know via direct message. |
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