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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 18, 2014 10:33:30 GMT -5
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Post by squire on Oct 18, 2014 10:54:43 GMT -5
Anyone wanna bet how many times "Shine" is on the album?
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Post by supernovadragon on Oct 18, 2014 11:07:01 GMT -5
Anyone wanna bet how many times "Shine" is on the album? plucking it out the air 38
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 18, 2014 11:19:38 GMT -5
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 18, 2014 11:21:41 GMT -5
Anyone wanna bet how many times "Shine" is on the album? Not as much as the "na na nas" I guess.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 18, 2014 11:28:27 GMT -5
There's only 1 song that sounds good with nanana's and let me tell you this, it's not this one.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 18, 2014 16:16:39 GMT -5
Also let's be honest, even though we may gripe about how unoriginal the chorus is...when Noel plays this live and sings "THE MOOOOOOOORRE THAT YOU WANT IT", you're gonna have 50 thousand people grooving and jumping up and down going apeshit over it. The main reason I love Oasis is how anthemic the songs are. I don't get that larger-than-life feeling with any other band, and Noel does a great job of making me feel it again when he belts out that one note to kick off the chorus. Absolutely. That's exactly why I like this as a first single. It's anthemic, it's energetic, it's catchy, it gets you going...TDOYAM is the better song, but it lacks most of that. Also the reason why ITHOTM should receive a fair amount of radio play.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 18, 2014 16:49:02 GMT -5
There's only 1 song that sounds good with nanana's and let me tell you this, it's not this one. I don't mind the "Na na na's" mid song but right at the top not so much. I'd be fine with that cool instrumental beginning to kick off the tune. These are small gripes though. Good tune I love blasting.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 21:00:26 GMT -5
this song was just beginning to grow on me, then I realized how good it could sound with Liam singing. give the vocals some more bite. bummer
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Post by spaneli on Oct 18, 2014 21:15:42 GMT -5
this song was just beginning to grow on me, then I realized how good it could sound with Liam singing. the vocals some bite to it. bummer I don't hear it. That first line of the chorus when Noel's voice explodes, I can't hear Liam hitting that note. I can't hear singing at least a couple lines in that chorus. It requires a lot of range and a big voice. Liam now? I couldn't see him being able to do it.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 18, 2014 21:45:23 GMT -5
this song was just beginning to grow on me, then I realized how good it could sound with Liam singing. the vocals some bite to it. bummer I don't think it would work. I can't imagine Liam singing this sort of song even if it was within his vocal range. That being said, I wouldn't mind someone imitating Liam's voice to sing a cover version, just so we can get an idea of what it could have been.
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 18, 2014 22:44:59 GMT -5
The 'Na na na's are the least of this song's problems.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 19, 2014 0:59:04 GMT -5
this song was just beginning to grow on me, then I realized how good it could sound with Liam singing. the vocals some bite to it. bummer I don't hear it. That first line of the chorus when Noel's voice explodes, I can't hear Liam hitting that note. I can't hear singing at least a couple lines in that chorus. It requires a lot of range and a big voice. Liam now? I couldn't see him being able to do it. Come on spaneli, it could definitely work. The vocals would have to be adjusted slightly to fit Liam's voice better, but he definitely could do it. He would probably just sing it an octave lower. (See how Liam sings "MORE" on Bag It Up as a point of reference). This song would just have another dimension added to it with a little more sneer and roughness on the vocals. But it could have been an Oasis song for sure.
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 19, 2014 1:45:31 GMT -5
I don't hear it. That first line of the chorus when Noel's voice explodes, I can't hear Liam hitting that note. I can't hear singing at least a couple lines in that chorus. It requires a lot of range and a big voice. Liam now? I couldn't see him being able to do it. Come on spaneli, it could definitely work. The vocals would have to be adjusted slightly to fit Liam's voice better, but he definitely could do it. He would probably just sing it an octave lower. (See how Liam sings "MORE" on Bag It Up as a point of reference). This song would just have another dimension added to it with a little more sneer and roughness on the vocals. But it could have been an Oasis song for sure. Wrong. I guess you think DLBIA would have another "dimension" too if sung by Liam.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 19, 2014 2:33:56 GMT -5
Come on spaneli, it could definitely work. The vocals would have to be adjusted slightly to fit Liam's voice better, but he definitely could do it. He would probably just sing it an octave lower. (See how Liam sings "MORE" on Bag It Up as a point of reference). This song would just have another dimension added to it with a little more sneer and roughness on the vocals. But it could have been an Oasis song for sure. Wrong. I guess you think DLBIA would have another "dimension" too if sung by Liam. Nope. Step Out, though? Maybe.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 19, 2014 3:13:54 GMT -5
I don't hear it. That first line of the chorus when Noel's voice explodes, I can't hear Liam hitting that note. I can't hear singing at least a couple lines in that chorus. It requires a lot of range and a big voice. Liam now? I couldn't see him being able to do it. Come on spaneli, it could definitely work. The vocals would have to be adjusted slightly to fit Liam's voice better, but he definitely could do it. He would probably just sing it an octave lower. (See how Liam sings "MORE" on Bag It Up as a point of reference). This song would just have another dimension added to it with a little more sneer and roughness on the vocals. But it could have been an Oasis song for sure. Fuck no.
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Post by thomuk2006 on Oct 19, 2014 3:26:35 GMT -5
It's alright... kind of generic. But I think that's kind of why it's the first single. Very radio friendly and casual fans.. and new listeners will lap it up.
So yeah not disappointed. . But can't wait for more interesting stuff on the album!
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Post by leak4ever on Oct 19, 2014 3:34:07 GMT -5
Come on spaneli, it could definitely work. The vocals would have to be adjusted slightly to fit Liam's voice better, but he definitely could do it. He would probably just sing it an octave lower. (See how Liam sings "MORE" on Bag It Up as a point of reference). This song would just have another dimension added to it with a little more sneer and roughness on the vocals. But it could have been an Oasis song for sure. Fuck no. I concur with this analysis.
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Post by shoreline on Oct 19, 2014 3:41:57 GMT -5
Hi guys. I'm a new member here, have been reading posts from the forum for years, but decided to join now. I know you're all done with your "reviews" of the song, so sorry for doing that a bit late in the discussion. Here's my thoughts on the song:
I think the song is great. The nanana's took me by surprise and I thought "what? not sure about that", but then the song really started and I just had a big, big smile on my face. It was so good to hear a new Noel Gallagher song again, it sounded amazing and also the thought of how much Liam probably hates this song made me laugh big time. If you're not sure about the nanana's and a dancy-disco-blues-rock song, then just imagine what Liam thinks of it. He wasn't a big fan of What A Life as you know, and this is another step further in that direction. You can be sure that this song would never have been released (at least not like how it is now) in oasis. Makes me really feel that the end of oasis was a good thing in terms of musical creativity. The oasis thing was so written in stone, and I think Noel feels he's more free to do whatever he wants now, to experiment. He started gently, testing the waters with songs like dancing tracks like "AKA.... What A Life!", adding horns and trumpets to songs and reducing the amount of electric guitar solos and stuff like that (though staying safely in "The Kinks-land"). After the success of the first album taking pressure of him to replicate the success of oasis, and with all the money from the reissues of the first oasis-albums the risk isn't that big. I think the success of What A Life also convinced him that getting deeper in touch with his love for dance-music would be a good idea.
The album is supposed to include very different types of music, so not all of it is gonna be in the same style as this After all, Noel said during the Q&A that you could take two songs from the album and think it would be a dance-music album, and then another two tracks and think the album would be in a completly different genre. But even though there is elements of dance-music, it still got that bluesy rock-vibe. So it kinda is bluesy dance-rock (which is something I can enjoy, but then again I'm a bit younger than some of you other people on the forum so maybe it's more appealing to me. The verses are really really good, practically perfect. Love the base-heavy sound of it (AKA What A Groove!). The chorus is a bit disappointing compared to the verses though, but I think the chorus and nanana's will grow on me. The production by Noel is also amazing (thank god for no Sardy), vocals sound surprisingly good for a man of his age, especially on the chorus. Perfect balance between distortion and sounding pure. It sounds really modern and fresh, probably giving Noel a good chance of getting more attention outside his normal fanbase. I also like the shimmering guitar picking in the second half of the song. 7/10 for me. The next single (the closing track of the record I think) is supposed to be way better than this according to Noely G, so it's gonna be interesting.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 19, 2014 4:18:17 GMT -5
Hey! Welcome to this forum. I enjoyed reading your reply.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Oct 19, 2014 4:27:27 GMT -5
I can't help but think how awesome this song would be if Liam was singing lead vocals. I wish Noel had started to become this adventurous 10 years ago. Would have done wonders for the perception of latter day Oasis. I think the freedom has come from not being in Oasis. I mean, Liam hated Wonderwall when he first heard it because he thought the drums and bass sounded like reggae...
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Post by squire on Oct 19, 2014 6:50:39 GMT -5
I'm also sort of a new member. Welcome and looking forward to hearing your future thoughts, I think you're pretty spot on with this song.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 19, 2014 8:24:42 GMT -5
I don't hear it. That first line of the chorus when Noel's voice explodes, I can't hear Liam hitting that note. I can't hear singing at least a couple lines in that chorus. It requires a lot of range and a big voice. Liam now? I couldn't see him being able to do it. Come on spaneli, it could definitely work. The vocals would have to be adjusted slightly to fit Liam's voice better, but he definitely could do it. He would probably just sing it an octave lower. (See how Liam sings "MORE" on Bag It Up as a point of reference). This song would just have another dimension added to it with a little more sneer and roughness on the vocals. But it could have been an Oasis song for sure. I just couldn't hear it. Even an octave lower, which doesn't always work. It's not an automatic fix that someone just sings something an octave lower and it magically works. Even then the vocal line would have to be changed. Liam probably still wouldn't be able to explode his voice like that and then the mix would also have to be slightly rearranged to accommodate a weaker voice and vocal range. At that point it's a completely different song. If you have to change a whole song for someone to sing it, then whats the point? You're just slapping someone's vocal on for the sake of slapping someone's vocal on. Much like TDOYAM, the feel of the song, the vocal line of the song, and the range needed for the song all work perfectly for Noel. Why change it to accommodate a voice that doesn't fit any of the three?
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Post by squire on Oct 19, 2014 8:31:39 GMT -5
I can imagine Liam singing the na na nas but the rest is purely Noel. This isn't to knock on LG but different voices work for different songs. I'm happy to be proven wrong though. I'd love to hear Liam attempt this song.
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Post by LlAM on Oct 19, 2014 8:35:30 GMT -5
Come on people, Liam would never be able to sing the chorus live, even if it was brought down a key or two. He can hardly snap for air between the lines in Wonderwall, what makes you think he'd magically manage this chorus with literally no pauses? That being said, I think Noel will struggle with it too most of the time.
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