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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 11:54:09 GMT -5
I'm teenage and I'm a massive Noely G fan (obviously)
I can confirm that Oasis are still popular with teenagers - Noel is less known but all who do like him.
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 11, 2015 12:40:42 GMT -5
Based on a lot of these early reviews and trying to be Noel's American A&R man, it sounds like "You Know We Can't Go Back" would make an ideal USA single. The reviews keep saying it's fast paced, poppy, anthemic and a touch of Springsteen. Those are all good things for commercials success in America. Take The Killers "When You Were Young". Big hit. Not saying Noel is ever going to have a US hit at age 47 but he can tailor his potentially singles in this market for a best foot forward approach. Just an idea. Probably yes. If he can't break the US (Oasis didn't since 1997, so...) he should try to get a pretty good fanbase into the american rock world |
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Post by joladella on Feb 11, 2015 12:42:16 GMT -5
A very short German review, under "CDs of the week": www.sueddeutsche.de/kultur/die-cds-der-woche-popkolumne-musikalische-koestlichkeiten-1.2345537-2Translation: „... It still sounds like the uncomplicated, hymnic retro Rock'n'Roll which was called Britpop and once made Oasis world-famous. Just like on the debut of the HFB it's always the same, but at an astoundingly high level. Even if one – unlike the Master himself – does not share the opinion that „Riverman“ might be the best song Gallagher has ever written, one has to say that songs like „The Right Stuff“ and „In The Heat Of The Moment“ should be very far up in the list of the best Oasis songs that Oasis never recorded.“ "In the heat of the moment" as one of the best NG songs?! I don't think so! Among the three we already know I think it's the weakest. |
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Post by Cast on Feb 11, 2015 12:45:48 GMT -5
Based on a lot of these early reviews and trying to be Noel's American A&R man, it sounds like "You Know We Can't Go Back" would make an ideal USA single. The reviews keep saying it's fast paced, poppy, anthemic and a touch of Springsteen. Those are all good things for commercials success in America. Take The Killers "When You Were Young". Big hit. Not saying Noel is ever going to have a US hit at age 47 but he can tailor his potentially singles in this market for a best foot forward approach. Just an idea. Indeed. ITHOTM was played before ads during the NFL playoffs. I was shocked. If Noel could find an outlet to plug his songs into, he could gain some steam in the US. Radio, TV appearances, and touring aren't the only ways to get out there. They're are other methods that could help bring publicity and honestly they are a lot less time consuming, causing you know Noel's a lazy ass. |
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Post by zatine87 on Feb 11, 2015 12:54:30 GMT -5
Nothing new and not much detail on the songs. Just the basic shizzle really. REVIEW BY PLATO. (Dutch recordstore) When Noel Gallagher's first solo album came out in 2011, this headstrong Britpop-dinosaur promised that an experimental album in collaboration with Amorphous Androgynous would see the light of day in 2012. That never happened. Especially now that Liam's band Beady Eye is no more, many Oasis fans will be excited for new work by Noel. Chasing Yesterday sees Noel going further down the same course. Traditionally, the album starts with a random throat sound. Opening track Riverman could easily have been an Oasis song, except for (yeah) the saxophone. This surprising instrument later returns (on The Right Stuff) and creates a jazzy, psychedelic sound. The nearly false nanananana's in single In The Heat Of The Moment do raise an eyebrow, but Noel gets away with it, gloriously. Even Lock All The Doors, a song that has been left on the shelf by Oasis, 23 years ago, fits in like a glove. With the guitar playing on The Ballad Of The Mighty I, played by Johnny Marr (The Smiths), because of whom Noel picked up the guitar as a teenager, the circle is round. With Chasing Yesterday, Noel Gallagher has finally become an evergreen star in the musical firmament: if you're only familiar with this album it may not sound very original, but as a continuation of a rich history, this new album feels like a comfortable coming home. Or just rely on Noel's own words: ''Is it great? Of course it is!'' 8/10 Thanks a lot for posting. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2015 14:55:27 GMT -5
Based on a lot of these early reviews and trying to be Noel's American A&R man, it sounds like "You Know We Can't Go Back" would make an ideal USA single. The reviews keep saying it's fast paced, poppy, anthemic and a touch of Springsteen. Those are all good things for commercials success in America. Take The Killers "When You Were Young". Big hit. Not saying Noel is ever going to have a US hit at age 47 but he can tailor his potentially singles in this market for a best foot forward approach. Just an idea. Probably yes. If he can't break the US (Oasis didn't since 1997, so...) he should try to get a pretty good fanbase into the american rock world Their biggest problem in America post 1997 was they never had a traditional rock single to promote. GLIO wasn't gonna do anything in 2000 and promptly sank like a stone in America. Oasis lost a ton of their US footing between 1997 and 2001. |
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Post by Cast on Feb 11, 2015 15:10:08 GMT -5
Probably yes. If he can't break the US (Oasis didn't since 1997, so...) he should try to get a pretty good fanbase into the american rock world Their biggest problem in America post 1997 was they never had a traditional rock single to promote. GLIO wasn't gonna do anything in 2000 and promptly sank like a stone in America. Oasis lost a ton of their US footing between 1997 and 2001. Nailed it as usual. I wasn't even a fan in the 90's but they fucked up bad during the four year span, at least in terms of their US popularity BHN really could have had an impact on the US. It reached 2, pretty close to beating Diddy for #1. I feel they should have released Don't Go Away as a single at some point and pushed it HARD. IHITIK (or SBM if they wanted another ballad after DGA) I think would have had a shot at the rock charts. This is a silly thing to say but BHN seems like the most "american" Oasis record. |
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Post by Ltrain on Feb 11, 2015 15:21:26 GMT -5
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 11, 2015 15:29:20 GMT -5
Their biggest problem in America post 1997 was they never had a traditional rock single to promote. GLIO wasn't gonna do anything in 2000 and promptly sank like a stone in America. Oasis lost a ton of their US footing between 1997 and 2001. Nailed it as usual. I wasn't even a fan in the 90's but they fucked up bad during the four year span, at least in terms of their US popularity BHN really could have had an impact on the US. It reached 2, pretty close to beating Diddy for #1. I feel they should have released Don't Go Away as a single at some point and pushed it HARD. IHITIK (or SBM if they wanted another ballad after DGA) I think would have had a shot at the rock charts. This is a silly thing to say but BHN seems like the most "american" Oasis record. they did release DGA as a single is the u.s didnt they? pushed it hard by singing it on SNL and chat shows and it did go to number 5 in the rock charts? |
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Post by Ltrain on Feb 11, 2015 15:32:41 GMT -5
Nailed it as usual. I wasn't even a fan in the 90's but they fucked up bad during the four year span, at least in terms of their US popularity BHN really could have had an impact on the US. It reached 2, pretty close to beating Diddy for #1. I feel they should have released Don't Go Away as a single at some point and pushed it HARD. IHITIK (or SBM if they wanted another ballad after DGA) I think would have had a shot at the rock charts. This is a silly thing to say but BHN seems like the most "american" Oasis record. they did release DGA as a single is the u.s didnt they? pushed it hard by singing it on SNL and chat shows and it did go to number 5 in the rock charts? Agree with everything you guys said. What would it take for Noel to get more promotion here and radio play. Does he have to pay money to get his stuff played here? I mean, there is some real shit being played over and over on the radio and I always think that someone is paying these guys to play this horrible shit. |
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 11, 2015 15:38:00 GMT -5
they did release DGA as a single is the u.s didnt they? pushed it hard by singing it on SNL and chat shows and it did go to number 5 in the rock charts? Agree with everything you guys said. What would it take for Noel to get more promotion here and radio play. Does he have to pay money to get his stuff played here? I mean, there is some real shit being played over and over on the radio and I always think that someone is paying these guys to play this horrible shit. sure its not true for her but obv common place why the accusation being made was that katy perry "bought" her Super Bowl placement.. so guessing lots of :/// stuff happens in the industry esp in U.S. Tho on the flip side like most people saying noel's a 47 year old making music for the him and 'us' on this forum is ITHOTM or even BOTMI was the pinnacle of music as a whole we'd not be in any better place |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2015 15:40:03 GMT -5
Their biggest problem in America post 1997 was they never had a traditional rock single to promote. GLIO wasn't gonna do anything in 2000 and promptly sank like a stone in America. Oasis lost a ton of their US footing between 1997 and 2001. Nailed it as usual. I wasn't even a fan in the 90's but they fucked up bad during the four year span, at least in terms of their US popularity BHN really could have had an impact on the US. It reached 2, pretty close to beating Diddy for #1. I feel they should have released Don't Go Away as a single at some point and pushed it HARD. IHITIK (or SBM if they wanted another ballad after DGA) I think would have had a shot at the rock charts. This is a silly thing to say but BHN seems like the most "american" Oasis record. To be fair, Oasis did release Don't Go Away as a U.S. single. I heard it a lot on New York/Philadelphia based radio stations. Even saw the video a bunch. The problem was it came out in October-ish. Two months after Be Here Now came out. Not good. Oasis really needed to use Don't Go Away as the lead USA single instead of DYKWIM? Great song but that 6 minute radio edit was still a beast to try and get on TV/radio. Sure MTV and VH1 made a big deal with that video when it came out but that didn't last long. IHITIK would have been a good 2nd US single as well. |
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Post by jaq515 on Feb 11, 2015 15:51:27 GMT -5
Nailed it as usual. I wasn't even a fan in the 90's but they fucked up bad during the four year span, at least in terms of their US popularity BHN really could have had an impact on the US. It reached 2, pretty close to beating Diddy for #1. I feel they should have released Don't Go Away as a single at some point and pushed it HARD. IHITIK (or SBM if they wanted another ballad after DGA) I think would have had a shot at the rock charts. This is a silly thing to say but BHN seems like the most "american" Oasis record. To be fair, Oasis did release Don't Go Away as a U.S. single. I heard it a lot on New York/Philadelphia based radio stations. Even saw the video a bunch. The problem was it came out in October-ish. Two months after Be Here Now came out. Not good. Oasis really needed to use Don't Go Away as the lead USA single instead of DYKWIM? Great song but that 6 minute radio edit was still a beast to try and get on TV/radio. Sure MTV and VH1 made a big deal with that video when it came out but that didn't last long. IHITIK would have been a good 2nd US single as well. The U.S market had Wonderwall, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova in a row, i think DYKWIM was a good lead single was a good single for a change away.. bit of modern 'rock" instead of a beatles ballad and they went to number 2 with it.. Then disappeared with DGA as second single so sure that shows that would've not been a good lead single.. I don't think the U.S market would've been excited by ITIHIK but would've been better route than ballad for single 2 |
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 11, 2015 15:55:33 GMT -5
Probably yes. If he can't break the US (Oasis didn't since 1997, so...) he should try to get a pretty good fanbase into the american rock world Their biggest problem in America post 1997 was they never had a traditional rock single to promote. GLIO wasn't gonna do anything in 2000 and promptly sank like a stone in America. Oasis lost a ton of their US footing between 1997 and 2001. Also, you know, they failed every tour over there. But in the last tour they did pretty good, i guess. Played some arenas like Staples Center, Madison Square Garden, Oracle etc. and DOYS charted at #6 |
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Post by dennizz on Feb 11, 2015 16:06:32 GMT -5
i live way up north, my accent sounds like i own a farm I live near Germany. You probably know Herman Finkers and Ilse de Lange. Well I sound like them, so I sound like I own a farm too  fucking hell ilse de lange, can't fucking stand that woman. I do like the way people talk in Almeloooo, almost as much as i love a scouse accent |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 11, 2015 16:25:10 GMT -5
I live near Germany. You probably know Herman Finkers and Ilse de Lange. Well I sound like them, so I sound like I own a farm too fucking hell ilse de lange, can't fucking stand that woman. I do like the way people talk in Almeloooo, almost as much as i love a scouse accent Well I can't stand her music, but as a person she's lovely, apparently. It seems like the stayed true to herself. Haha really? It's such a disaster when we try to sound sophisticated though. |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 11, 2015 16:37:27 GMT -5
Their biggest problem in America post 1997 was they never had a traditional rock single to promote. GLIO wasn't gonna do anything in 2000 and promptly sank like a stone in America. Oasis lost a ton of their US footing between 1997 and 2001. Also, you know, they failed every tour over there. But in the last tour they did pretty good, i guess. Played some arenas like Staples Center, Madison Square Garden, Oracle etc. and DOYS charted at #6 DOYS charted at #5. Oasis had three top 5 US albums in their career: WTSMG, BHN, and DOYS. TSOTL was also the most successful Gallagher single since DGA, giving them a Top 15 on Alt. Rock charts. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Feb 11, 2015 16:40:33 GMT -5
DOYS charted at #11 here, so 5 in America is great
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Post by spaneli on Feb 11, 2015 16:43:12 GMT -5
To be fair, Oasis did release Don't Go Away as a U.S. single. I heard it a lot on New York/Philadelphia based radio stations. Even saw the video a bunch. The problem was it came out in October-ish. Two months after Be Here Now came out. Not good. Oasis really needed to use Don't Go Away as the lead USA single instead of DYKWIM? Great song but that 6 minute radio edit was still a beast to try and get on TV/radio. Sure MTV and VH1 made a big deal with that video when it came out but that didn't last long. IHITIK would have been a good 2nd US single as well. The U.S market had Wonderwall, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova in a row, i think DYKWIM was a good lead single was a good single for a change away.. bit of modern 'rock" instead of a beatles ballad and they went to number 2 with it.. Then disappeared with DGA as second single so sure that shows that would've not been a good lead single.. I don't think the U.S market would've been excited by ITIHIK but would've been better route than ballad for single 2 Don't Go Away wasn't the second single. Maybe my release history is off by DGA was the fourth overall single from BHN and the third for the US. Wasn't All Around The World the second US single? Edit: Also, to be fair DGA charted at #5 on the Alt. Rock charts. Only one spot behind DYKWIM. It's still one of their top 5 maybe 6th most successful single in the US. |
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Post by paperbackwriter on Feb 11, 2015 16:43:25 GMT -5
#5 in the Billboard chart?
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Post by lamboasis on Feb 11, 2015 16:44:30 GMT -5
The problem is that when they were the biggest band in the world they failed in the US. After Knebworth they had a big opportunity but Liam & the boys blew it away.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2015 16:45:12 GMT -5
To be fair, Oasis did release Don't Go Away as a U.S. single. I heard it a lot on New York/Philadelphia based radio stations. Even saw the video a bunch. The problem was it came out in October-ish. Two months after Be Here Now came out. Not good. Oasis really needed to use Don't Go Away as the lead USA single instead of DYKWIM? Great song but that 6 minute radio edit was still a beast to try and get on TV/radio. Sure MTV and VH1 made a big deal with that video when it came out but that didn't last long. IHITIK would have been a good 2nd US single as well. The U.S market had Wonderwall, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova in a row, i think DYKWIM was a good lead single was a good single for a change away.. bit of modern 'rock" instead of a beatles ballad and they went to number 2 with it.. Then disappeared with DGA as second single so sure that shows that would've not been a good lead single.. I don't think the U.S market would've been excited by ITIHIK but would've been better route than ballad for single 2 I agree and disagree. Oasis got to #2 in the charts based on the hype and success of Morning Glory. DYKWIM did very little to make that happen. As someone who witnessed it unfold, that song was rarely played on radio stations or television. Rock was goig out of fashion, boy bands and rap metal was beginning to take over. A 6 minute radio edit single was a death sentence. By the time DGA was released 2 months later, it was too late and that song charted a lot better than DYKWIM ever did in America long term. Sure it was a bold choice fueled by ego. The only reason Oasis was able to pull off Champagne Supernova as a single was the succes of WW and DLBIA and that the radio edit was like 5 minutes or something. It fell out of rotation extremely fast. I remember people at the time wanting a WW style comeback. Most Americans would probably agree with that. DGA was their best chance at maintaining that type of fan. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Feb 11, 2015 16:46:41 GMT -5
The U.S market had Wonderwall, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova in a row, i think DYKWIM was a good lead single was a good single for a change away.. bit of modern 'rock" instead of a beatles ballad and they went to number 2 with it.. Then disappeared with DGA as second single so sure that shows that would've not been a good lead single.. I don't think the U.S market would've been excited by ITIHIK but would've been better route than ballad for single 2 Don't Go Away wasn't the second single. Maybe my release history is off by DGA was the fourth overall single from BHN and the third for the US. Wasn't All Around The World the second US single? No. All Around The World came out in America around January 1998. That's when I recall the video playing on MTV. Don't Go Away was either late September, early October 1997. Like DYKWIM, AATW sank fast on US radio. The video got a little rotation but not much. It probably got most of its play on VH1's pop up video in 1998. |
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Post by spaneli on Feb 11, 2015 16:48:52 GMT -5
Don't Go Away wasn't the second single. Maybe my release history is off by DGA was the fourth overall single from BHN and the third for the US. Wasn't All Around The World the second US single? No. All Around The World came out in America around January 1998. That's when I recall the video playing on MTV. Don't Go Away was either latr September, early October 1997. Maybe a staggered release? DGA's release date is February of 98'. |
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Post by World71R on Feb 11, 2015 16:49:39 GMT -5
To be fair, Oasis did release Don't Go Away as a U.S. single. I heard it a lot on New York/Philadelphia based radio stations. Even saw the video a bunch. The problem was it came out in October-ish. Two months after Be Here Now came out. Not good. Oasis really needed to use Don't Go Away as the lead USA single instead of DYKWIM? Great song but that 6 minute radio edit was still a beast to try and get on TV/radio. Sure MTV and VH1 made a big deal with that video when it came out but that didn't last long. IHITIK would have been a good 2nd US single as well. The U.S market had Wonderwall, DLBIA, Champagne Supernova in a row, i think DYKWIM was a good lead single was a good single for a change away.. bit of modern 'rock" instead of a beatles ballad and they went to number 2 with it.. Then disappeared with DGA as second single so sure that shows that would've not been a good lead single.. I don't think the U.S market would've been excited by ITIHIK but would've been better route than ballad for single 2 IMO, DYKWIM wasn't a very good lead single. Period. While it's a great song (arguably the best on BHN), it's not a very good "radio-friendly" tune, and therefore, as a lead single, it was just not the right one, except for us fans. I think DGA would've taken care of both the radio-friendly side of the things, and made all of us happy. With IHITIK as a 2nd single, followed by SBM, TGITDS, to follow, even, and then AATW, with DYKWIM as a promo single of some sort, I think things would've been a little different. |
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