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Post by You're My van der Waal on Oct 11, 2014 11:47:12 GMT -5
Curious to know what people think about Noel's chances in the UK charts this time round.
I'll be ecstatic if HFB2 does something similar to the first album - enter at number 1 and hang around in the charts for many weeks. Would be amazing 3 years on.
Realistically though, without the hype from Oasis split and being the first album, I think a top 3 entry and staying in the charts for a few weeks would be a result.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 11, 2014 12:23:28 GMT -5
If Beady Eye can make an improvement on their chart record with even less sales, why can't Noel, who is more popular, with way more fans and a much better public image?
I think he'll be a number 1 hit again.
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Post by hasseg on Oct 11, 2014 12:24:02 GMT -5
He will enter at no 1, 100% sure.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 11, 2014 12:26:43 GMT -5
Unless a very big pop singer is releasing an album the same week, he'll get to number 1
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Post by spaneli on Oct 11, 2014 12:39:37 GMT -5
Bit early to be starting on chart runs.
But if I had to guess I'd say he gets #1 but his UK album sales go down. He had a perfect run last time out and it's unrealistic to expect the same. He'll get platinum sales for sure, close to double platinum. I'd say 500k in sales in the UK.
But you never know. It did seem like last time out he recaptured the casual oasis fans. If he picked up more with a good follow-up then his sales could go up.
But the safe money is a drop in album sales.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 11, 2014 12:53:21 GMT -5
I have no idea what the album is like, so I'm not really thinking about chart runs yet
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 11, 2014 13:04:38 GMT -5
It'll go #1 in England. Mid 20s in America. Probably sell 500,000 domestically.
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Post by Jailbird on Oct 11, 2014 13:31:31 GMT -5
I'd be very suprised if it didn't go number 1
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Post by bestwick8 on Oct 11, 2014 14:12:24 GMT -5
I wonder if noel feels bad for little brother or is thinking I told you so...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 14:24:13 GMT -5
Should get a number 1 but long term depends if he has that massive single like a aka what a life which made people notice him
Onions of course
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Post by matt on Oct 11, 2014 15:17:50 GMT -5
Should get a number 1 but long term depends if he has that massive single like a aka what a life which made people notice him Onions of course What A Life was a big single, if he has something similar impact, it will do as well as the first album.
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Oct 11, 2014 15:31:04 GMT -5
It'll do well, with a good chance of going to number 1. Thats it. Nothing more, so why are speculating. Does anyone really care (minus Noel)? If it didn't chart, sure, that'd be a bit weird, but I wouldn't care in the slightest. A good chunk of the music I listen to, doesn't chart. The charts are a load of crap, and bear no indication on the quality of music on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 16:21:05 GMT -5
Hope :: return to glory years. Rocking tunes great turns of phrase , long top 10 chart run
Expect : like recent oasis lps ( Hindu times , DBTT , doys ..) debut at 1. Stay in top 10 a bit but not like glory years. Then fade awAy , he will not pick up new younger fans , his music don't inspire the young to attract new fans,, like Oasis circa 95. Like WELLER he will alwYs have his fan base but unless he reunites and the young kids want to see what all the fuss was about. He will have a number 1 then a dip because all his fans will buy early but legs ?? I do t see that at least not like old days , and that's fine
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 5:42:46 GMT -5
Noel has loads of money and the tour is probably already booked. Why should I care if anyone other than me buys it?
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Post by freddy838 on Oct 12, 2014 6:20:55 GMT -5
If he releases it around November then I think it will do well over the Christmas period. It depends if the first single has cross-over commercial appeal for the major radio stations, which Death Of You And Me didn't really.
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Post by Greedy's Mighty Sigh on Oct 12, 2014 10:14:00 GMT -5
He will sell 70k+ in the first week and is guaranteed #1 in the UK.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 12, 2014 10:34:33 GMT -5
He will sell 70k+ in the first week and is guaranteed #1 in the UK. Really? Only 70k? Didn't he easily sell over 100k that last time? I want to say he sold 120k in his first week last time.
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Post by nutsngum on Oct 12, 2014 10:42:43 GMT -5
Why does it matter? It'll do alright, he'll sell lots of gig tickets. It's not 1995 anymore, and none of us are teenagers...
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Oct 12, 2014 10:55:18 GMT -5
He will sell 70k+ in the first week and is guaranteed #1 in the UK. Really? Only 70k? Didn't he easily sell over 100k that last time? I want to say he sold 120k in his first week last time. Times have changed though. Yes, even since 2011.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 12, 2014 11:08:32 GMT -5
Really? Only 70k? Didn't he easily sell over 100k that last time? I want to say he sold 120k in his first week last time. Times have changed though. Yes, even since 2011. Yes, but a 50k drop for an artist who expanded their fan base from the one they began with last time? That's a large drop. It's not like we're talking about Beady Eye. Noel was filling arenas when he ended his tour last. No, illegal downloading wouldn't account for that big of a drop. Surprisingly, illegal downloading has mostly remained the same since 2011. In the end, I could see first week sales dropping to say 100k, but 70k is almost a 50% drop for an artist with a dedicated and large fan base. Especially, if he release around Christmas (which should increase his sales more). No, doesn't make sense. He'll breach at least 90k. He has too many factors working in his favor not to.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 12, 2014 11:13:38 GMT -5
Times have changed though. Yes, even since 2011. Yes, but a 50k drop for an artist who expanded their fan base from the one they began with last time? That's a large drop. It's not like we're talking about Beady Eye. Noel was filling arenas when he ended his tour last. No, illegal downloading wouldn't account for that big of a drop. Surprisingly, illegal downloading has mostly remained the same since 2011. In the end, I could see first week sales dropping to say 100k, but 70k is almost a 50% drop for an artist with a dedicated and large fan base. Especially, if he release around Christmas (which should increase his sales more). No, doesn't make sense. He'll breach at least 90k. He has too many factors working in his favor not to. I think illegal downloads have remained the same becaus artists/record labels are smart by releasing new music ASAP on iTunes. It's much easier to pay the $0.99 then hunt on the Internet for rips or bootlegs. Especially since many of those get pulled initially by copyright infringement. It's a convenience thing. People just want music as soon as possible. If it's not over priced, people will gladly purchase it on iTunes.
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Post by spaneli on Oct 12, 2014 11:16:41 GMT -5
Yes, but a 50k drop for an artist who expanded their fan base from the one they began with last time? That's a large drop. It's not like we're talking about Beady Eye. Noel was filling arenas when he ended his tour last. No, illegal downloading wouldn't account for that big of a drop. Surprisingly, illegal downloading has mostly remained the same since 2011. In the end, I could see first week sales dropping to say 100k, but 70k is almost a 50% drop for an artist with a dedicated and large fan base. Especially, if he release around Christmas (which should increase his sales more). No, doesn't make sense. He'll breach at least 90k. He has too many factors working in his favor not to. I think illegal downloads have remained the same becaus artists/record labels are smart by releasing new music ASAP on iTunes. It's much easier to pay the $0.99 then hunt on the Internet for rips or bootlegs. Especially since many of those get pulled initially by copyright infringement. It's a convenience thing. People just want music as soon as possible. If it's not over priced, people will gladly purchase it on iTunes. Yep, this.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Oct 12, 2014 11:20:07 GMT -5
I think illegal downloads have remained the same becaus artists/record labels are smart by releasing new music ASAP on iTunes. It's much easier to pay the $0.99 then hunt on the Internet for rips or bootlegs. Especially since many of those get pulled initially by copyright infringement. It's a convenience thing. People just want music as soon as possible. If it's not over priced, people will gladly purchase it on iTunes. Yep, this. Noel would be smart to follow this strategy. I have a feeling he is finally becoming a modern man come Monday afternoon. Both fingers crossed.
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Post by yearzero on Oct 12, 2014 23:28:28 GMT -5
Noel would be smart to follow this strategy. I have a feeling he is finally becoming a modern man come Monday afternoon. Both fingers crossed. True, the fact that he is announcing via a Q & A session on Facebook is already a sign that he's going to use some of this new technology to his advantage. On a side note, if one of Noel's songs ended up being used in a football match/ad or in a movie, then I could see his song/album sales go even higher.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Oct 13, 2014 2:43:13 GMT -5
100% he will go top and stay in the charts. Last time out he was in the charts for months after it came out. That means, those more conservative who think Liam is a little bit too much of a ruffian for their ears, gave wee Noely a listen and liked him. He has acquired more fans than he might have had before, therefore it will be even more of a success.
I, personally, buy all albums that I enjoy. I.E. I would never steal a NG album, or an album by someone I like.
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