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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 14:01:51 GMT -5
A lot of you know unlike some here i don't worship at the temple that is noel , I love the guy, but was terribly DISSAPOINTED with HFB and BDI. noel certainly is more popular than Bdi in states cause of GALLAGHER name , , so in UK he will chart well , but where will he debut in states top 20 ?? Lower ? Or do some actually think he will crack top 10 ,I hope he chart at 1 all over world ,as I hoped bdi would , but realistically what do u think would be a good first week chart debut in states ? And how long will he stay on chart 100 here ? I say realistically top 15 but hope for better wouldnt be SUPRISED if worse , tho I hope not , DONT think. It will have legs on usa chart ...again im talking realistic , I do hope im wrong .
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Oct 5, 2014 16:02:55 GMT -5
For the first time ever on this forum i heard someone sayin that was dissapointed with HFB. Maybe i had too big expectations but i have to say i was dissapointed as well, i remember hearing the whole album for the first time and thinking it's rather average.
Listening to it now i think it's a good, quite solid album, some songs like Death Of You On Me grew on me, but when i came here, which was this year, i was actually shocked how much people here are totally into Noel and his first record. I don't know how things were when it was released, i knew it sells well, but i always thought it's due to Noel being the main songwriter and all. It was obvious that he's in the better position than Beady Eye from the very beggining, but i really don't think he proved that so much with his first record. I was thinking it's gonna be much better, to be honest. It's interesting how it's all gonna be this time. From what i see (in sales terms)- much better. The hype is even bigger, Oasis social media are full of young fans again. People are really hungry for this record. It's going to sell. I expect it to be much better musically than the first one as well, i can't believe Noel was 100% satisfied with it. Or am i going to dissapoint again ?
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Post by NYR on Oct 5, 2014 16:21:00 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 16:38:55 GMT -5
For the first time ever on this forum i heard someone sayin that was dissapointed with HFB. Maybe i had too big expectations but i have to say i was dissapointed as well, i remember hearing the whole album for the first time and thinking it's rather average. Listening to it now i think it's a good, quite solid album, some songs like Death Of You On Me grew on me, but when i came here, which was this year, i was actually shocked how much people here are totally into Noel and his first record. I don't know how things were when it was released, i knew it sells well, but i always thought it's due to Noel being the main songwriter and all. It was obvious that he's in the better position than Beady Eye from the very beggining, but i really don't think he proved that so much with his first record. I was thinking it's gonna be much better, to be honest. It's interesting how it's all gonna be this time. From what i see (in sales terms)- much better. The hype is even bigger, Oasis social media are full of young fans again. People are really hungry for this record. It's going to sell. I expect it to be much better musically than the first one as well, i can't believe Noel was 100% satisfied with it. Or am i going to dissapoint again ? A lot of people left who didnt like , left or haven't been on as much , it got heated here awhile back . U had pro liam pro noel. Crowd , the pro noel worshippers will be back , I already seen a few who just praise his every note, , me i think he has dissapointed as has liam. ,But I always hope for the best , but I don't come on here to just praise him and belittle the other brother as some do , go back in the pages m U will see who the noel worshippers are , it's comical actually , I've already seen a couple back , that's what is great about this place everying is still there from past. Just go back in the pages and read , you'll soon see who the players are that defend noel TIL the end , I prefer to call like I see. they both have dissapointed greatly , yet I always hold out hope for a return to form for both , but I don't blindly love noel to me his " chief " years ended long ago l HFB was a average lp. Better than bdi ....slightly and that's not a compliment really , sorya a indictment on both of there mediocrity since theyve seperated Imo. Glad your open minded man ..refreshing |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 16:40:06 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200. I agree. But as usual he for best , see i love noel , I just don't blundly think everything he does is golden , hasn't been in years sadly imo |
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Post by matt on Oct 5, 2014 16:44:14 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200. Really? He got to 28 with his first album. I'd predict a top 50 placing at the very least. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 16:47:09 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200. Really? He got to 28 with his first album. I'd predict a top 50 placing at the very least. It's been awhile. He's out of loop here , no radio play of his solo stuff. Like I said I hope for number 1 which of course is not happening , but to 50 was with a bit of hype , first so,o and all , second helping like 4 5 years later ?? I could see it flopping here , I hope not , why I asked for opinions |
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Post by matt on Oct 5, 2014 18:01:40 GMT -5
Really? He got to 28 with his first album. I'd predict a top 50 placing at the very least. It's been awhile. He's out of loop here , no radio play of his solo stuff. Like I said I hope for number 1 which of course is not happening , but to 50 was with a bit of hype , first so,o and all , second helping like 4 5 years later ?? I could see it flopping here , I hope not , why I asked for opinions But is there not a sizeable chunk of Oasis fans in the States? This site was primarily set up for US Oasis fans, before becoming the biggest Oasis forum - surely stands him in good stead I'd think. |
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 5, 2014 18:02:47 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200. Really? He got to 28 with his first album. I'd predict a top 50 placing at the very least. The way the charts are these days he only needs to sell about 10k to get in the top 25. It would be sad if he cant do that. kalas how the hell did you post this topic here? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 7:57:27 GMT -5
Really? He got to 28 with his first album. I'd predict a top 50 placing at the very least. The way the charts are these days he only needs to sell about 10k to get in the top 25. It would be sad if he cant do that. kalas how the hell did you post this topic here? Where is it ?? I really only tap recent threads , so I thought rock and roll star was where belonged i DONT relly pay attention to where I make thread tbh I don't make as many anmore , but by all means eva or Mimmi move it if wrong , no big deal sorry |
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Post by Sternumman on Oct 6, 2014 8:05:50 GMT -5
The way the charts are these days he only needs to sell about 10k to get in the top 25. It would be sad if he cant do that. kalas how the hell did you post this topic here? Where is it ?? I really only tap recent threads , so I thought rock and roll star was where belonged i DONT relly pay attention to where I make thread tbh I don't make as many anmore , but by all means eva or Mimmi move it if wrong , no big deal sorry It's in the Bootpit. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 8:19:01 GMT -5
Where is it ?? I really only tap recent threads , so I thought rock and roll star was where belonged i DONT relly pay attention to where I make thread tbh I don't make as many anmore , but by all means eva or Mimmi move it if wrong , no big deal sorry It's in the Bootpit. See My ipad is jacked i tapped r& r star ... But it's been screwing up my taps , freezing my types eva if u read this can u move , I didn't intend it to be there sorry to all those there , honest mistake |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 8:51:43 GMT -5
It's been awhile. He's out of loop here , no radio play of his solo stuff. Like I said I hope for number 1 which of course is not happening , but to 50 was with a bit of hype , first so,o and all , second helping like 4 5 years later ?? I could see it flopping here , I hope not , why I asked for opinions But is there not a sizeable chunk of Oasis fans in the States? This site was primarily set up for US Oasis fans, before becoming the biggest Oasis forum - surely stands him in good stead I'd think. this is what concerns me , in ny , la , chitown. Yea , but man I m here in Florida. The kids know oasis , and some know there brothers , but noel or even liam name recogniation without Oasis In front they don't know , here I'll give you a example i was at my sisters house my NEICE and her friends and my nephew and his were there , my nephew , was like my uncle is crazy goes all over to follow this band oasis , so I asked if they heard of them they all did , I asked to name 1 member , none knew and that was like 30 kids 25-18. So noel solo to us and some others yea he's known but not by much else without oasis name. Sad |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 9:37:37 GMT -5
Thx eva  . Funny I wouldn't have picked fact fiction , but it does fit there , I shoulda looked at HFB board but I don't post threads much except for lounge. Cheers LUV |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 6, 2014 9:44:39 GMT -5
So if I liked HFB it's cause I worship Noel
and love everything he does? Okay
Anyway it won't make the top 20
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 6, 2014 9:45:36 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200. No way, I understand pessimism surrounding Noel's success outside of Europe but there is no reason it should do that much worse than HFB. Of course, the album quality is not going to be irrelevant - if early reviews build up some hype I can see it beating HFB1. If the reviews are average, it is probably going to drop a bit. Still, he has toured, his first album is successfull which means the name HFB is somewhat established, and I doubt that any Oasis fan who bought the album in 2011 suddenly lost interest by 2015. Also, there's the reissues that have at least brought Oasis back a little. I guess we all know a big single a few weeks before the album would help a lot, but at this point I doubt any single song Noel will or even could make would ever be successfull in the US, so that's not going to happen. So, realistically I'd say anything between 25 and 50. |
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Post by Praetorian on Oct 6, 2014 9:56:22 GMT -5
It will be #1, just wait.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 10:12:14 GMT -5
So if I liked HFB it's cause I worship Noel and love everything he does? Okay Anyway it won't make the top 20 No , I think you don't get my point , I could care less if you if u blindly love all he does tbh , that's your right , I only. Root blindly for my sports teams and jeff Gordon , music i call as I see ,your entitled to love all he does i do t care m but I was looking for people like NYR. Frank lee vulgar. who seem to be on my wavelength ,it will chart horribly im usa ...all that said I wish he writes a masterpiece and goes1 worldwide ..he won't though ,he hasn't wrote a masterpiece in years but he will still be a genius for what he wrote ,shame he couldn't keep it going , im not gonna say HFB is great when it sucked imo. , I was hoping for best tho |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 10:13:28 GMT -5
It'll be a surprise if he makes it into the Billboard Top 200. No way, I understand pessimism surrounding Noel's success outside of Europe but there is no reason it should do that much worse than HFB. Of course, the album quality is not going to be irrelevant - if early reviews build up some hype I can see it beating HFB1. If the reviews are average, it is probably going to drop a bit. Still, he has toured, his first album is successfull which means the name HFB is somewhat established, and I doubt that any Oasis fan who bought the album in 2011 suddenly lost interest by 2015. Also, there's the reissues that have at least brought Oasis back a little. I guess we all know a big single a few weeks before the album would help a lot, but at this point I doubt any single song Noel will or even could make would ever be successfull in the US, so that's not going to happen. So, realistically I'd say anything between 25 and 50. I hope that is case , more important though I hope it don't debut thete and fall off chart because most likely all oasis fans myself included will buy ,after that  ? Who will |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Oct 6, 2014 10:17:27 GMT -5
So if I liked HFB it's cause I worship Noel and love everything he does? Okay Anyway it won't make the top 20 No , I think you don't get my point , I could care less if you if u blindly love all he does tbh , that's your right , I only. Root blindly for my sports teams and jeff Gordon , music i call as I see ,your entitled to love all he does i do t care m but I was looking for people like NYR. Frank lee vulgar. who seem to be on my wavelength ,it will chart horribly im usa ...all that said I wish he writes a masterpiece and goes1 worldwide ..he won't though ,he hasn't wrote a masterpiece in years but he will still be a genius for what he wrote ,shame he couldn't keep it going , im not gonna say HFB is great when it sucked imo. , I was hoping for best tho Yeah but it sucked for you,that's what I meant I loved it and lots of people did too,I don't love everything he does,I'm not that blind to say Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks or The Good Rebel are the best songs in rock n roll history,it's just that sometimes I put the record on,listen to it and think "alright,this album is pretty good isn't it?" I thought it was called taste,but maybe I'm wrong |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 10:21:55 GMT -5
No , I think you don't get my point , I could care less if you if u blindly love all he does tbh , that's your right , I only. Root blindly for my sports teams and jeff Gordon , music i call as I see ,your entitled to love all he does i do t care m but I was looking for people like NYR. Frank lee vulgar. who seem to be on my wavelength ,it will chart horribly im usa ...all that said I wish he writes a masterpiece and goes1 worldwide ..he won't though ,he hasn't wrote a masterpiece in years but he will still be a genius for what he wrote ,shame he couldn't keep it going , im not gonna say HFB is great when it sucked imo. , I was hoping for best tho Yeah but it sucked for you,that's what I meant I loved it and lots of people did too,I don't love everything he does,I'm not that blind to say Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks or The Good Rebel are the best songs in rock n roll history,it's just that sometimes I put the record on,listen to it and think "alright,this album is pretty good isn't it?" I thought it was called taste,but maybe I'm wrong Good. That's cool. Again tbh I was not putting you in that category , you always have had open views , my standard for noel is high liam as well , they both have failed thus far TO ,ME. why I was curious what others thought how it would do in states , not bashing noel , and I did t lump U in with some here that you can count to 10 and wait for them to defend noel , or bash liam , that's not U |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Oct 6, 2014 11:48:43 GMT -5
No way, I understand pessimism surrounding Noel's success outside of Europe but there is no reason it should do that much worse than HFB. Of course, the album quality is not going to be irrelevant - if early reviews build up some hype I can see it beating HFB1. If the reviews are average, it is probably going to drop a bit. Still, he has toured, his first album is successfull which means the name HFB is somewhat established, and I doubt that any Oasis fan who bought the album in 2011 suddenly lost interest by 2015. Also, there's the reissues that have at least brought Oasis back a little. I guess we all know a big single a few weeks before the album would help a lot, but at this point I doubt any single song Noel will or even could make would ever be successfull in the US, so that's not going to happen. So, realistically I'd say anything between 25 and 50. I hope that is case , more important though I hope it don't debut thete and fall off chart because most likely all oasis fans myself included will buy ,after that ? Who will I'm afraid that will definitely happen. This kind of music has little mainstream appeal in the US and it doesn't fit into the alternative scene either; he won't be gaining too many new fans unless he radically changes his style. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 11:52:26 GMT -5
I hope that is case , more important though I hope it don't debut thete and fall off chart because most likely all oasis fans myself included will buy ,after that ? Who will I'm afraid that will definitely happen. This kind of music has little mainstream appeal in the US and it doesn't fit into the alternative scene either; he won't be gaining too many new fans unless he radically changes his style. Agreed , thst was why I posted this thread wanted to see what others thought. , they don't have a broad base , I don't care about charts or popularity, I will buy , but it sux that they are not really known seperatly when the oasis brand is not attached, ii wish. Was wrong tho |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Oct 6, 2014 13:59:36 GMT -5
It charted well the first time around in the U.S. As long as it's advertised over here for awhile and not just a week before release(or at all), I'd expect around the same performance if not higher placement.
It wasn't the best album, but it's likeable. I too was disappointed by the first, but I still enjoyed it. It just didn't meet my expectations.
I don't see a reason why anyone wouldn't be interested in checking out round 2 and surely he's gathered a lot more fans since the debut.
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Post by Praetorian on Oct 6, 2014 14:11:08 GMT -5
It should do well. Noel Gallagher got a lot of nostalgia-based support on the last go and it seemed a lot of media vehicles in the US were interested in his solo career. We'll see what happens this time.
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