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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 26, 2014 16:57:42 GMT -5
Listening back to some of Noel's performances on the last tour I can't help but feel he's lost a little bit of power from his voice.
In terms of vocal ability, Noel was a late bloomer... Listening to his vocals at Knebworth, compared to, say, Wembley 2000, it's like a different person. However, it's almost as if he can't reach some of the notes he's written anymore. For example, What A Life: when he does the chorus, it just sounds slightly off. Obviously he's still great and everything, but sometimes his voice is a little strained and hard to listen to.
Anybody agree? Disagree?
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 26, 2014 17:02:32 GMT -5
Nearing fifty and a smoker all his life, I think he's doing pretty well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2014 17:17:10 GMT -5
His best vocal performance is definitely 'The Importance Of Being Idle (Demo)' he sings every line perfectly and the way he effortlessly drifts in and out of falsetto is amazing.
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Post by shock on Sept 26, 2014 17:18:44 GMT -5
I think it's because Noel sings for the entire duration of a show now instead of some songs. Also, does Noel warm up his vocals before gigs? I always tought that he just grab his things and go on stage.
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Post by matt on Sept 26, 2014 17:42:35 GMT -5
I'm a fan of his voice, it's not spectacular or anything but it does the job. It has the emotion, the right tones, no complaints with it at all.
I'd rather listen to Noel singing live than Liam at the moment if I'm honest.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Sept 27, 2014 2:49:26 GMT -5
I'd rather listen to Noel singing live than Liam at the moment if I'm honest. Unfortunatey, I can't really argue with that anymore... |
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Post by rebus on Sept 27, 2014 4:51:48 GMT -5
It took on a strange cowboy-esque twang the more the tour progressed, which I wasn't a huge fan of. I think he was at his best vocally around 2005. Acquiesce was stunning on the DBTT tour thanks to him.
Nonetheless, I think his voice sounded as strong as ever last time round. He certainly isn't as uniquely entertaining as Liam in the prime of his voice, but he carries wonderful melodies with ease.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 27, 2014 4:52:54 GMT -5
Noel's vocals got better as the tour went on last time I thought. He's going from playing a couple of songs a night to the full set. That was always going to take a bit of time. He sill sounded great all three times that I saw him though.
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Post by Bonehead's Barber on Sept 27, 2014 6:53:53 GMT -5
I think he will sound immense this time around. He seems to be one of those who can preserve their voice, like Bono or whatever. I just thought maybe him being the front man had fucked his voice over the course of a world tour, last time out
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Sept 27, 2014 9:49:45 GMT -5
Part of me was hoping for Beady’s Here Now kind of thread here. ("Heathen Chemistry- fact" ) But seriously. Noel's voice is a tricky thing, it's hard to desrcibe, i don't even know nobody who can sound kinda like him. He can do a lot with his voice, that's for sure, i think he can do even more than he already did. I don't like some of his performances of HFB tour and album EIOTR, for example, sometimes he sounds to cheesy, to sweet, i don't know what word use, but you know what i mean. Importance Of Being Idle is where he sounds the best on the record, but i also love Sad Song, the perfomance below and that Rockin Chair and Hey Now demos that we heard recently are pretty unique. I'm very curious about how he's gonna sound on new album if he's gonna develop. I know the melody is the most important thing for him, but maybe that's the change i expect from his new record. To think a bit from the singer songwriter point of view and choose the songs where he sounds the best, and do it more professional, built the songs more around his voice, more care about it. Interesting topic, Noel's voice. I doubt he's losing it, he don't have that kind of voice that you lose. He's singing in very soft way so he's not forcing it the way Liam do. Also it's very clean so it's hard to tell the difference, he will be singing like that forever i'd say. |
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Sept 27, 2014 11:03:10 GMT -5
I'd rather listen to Noel singing live than Liam at the moment if I'm honest. Unfortunatey, I can't really argue with that anymore... Anymore? When did you actually argue this point? Not since the 90s, maybe early 2000s, has Liam's singing been anywhere close to Noel's. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 27, 2014 11:09:31 GMT -5
It all went downhill after Kermit popped up for the first time.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Sept 27, 2014 11:37:36 GMT -5
It all went downhill after Kermit popped up for the first time. When Kermit made his first appearance, they really should have stopped and thought about how they were going to save Liam's voice. Sometimes I wonder if his live performances are what contributed the most to the loss of Oasis's popularity. Noel hasn't really sang that much falsetto until HFB. Even with TIOBI, it's not so much of a demanding song, it's fairly quiet. What A Life for instance demands a lot of power in its falsetto parts. Then there's other songs like EOTR that demand a lot of power too, even if they don't use falsetto. So that's a lot of strain on the chords, especially if he's singing all those song every time he gets on stage. Noel's voice has improved as time went on, I just hope it continues to do so. If he starts straining too much to the point of damage, he should stop and take a break, even if it's mid tour and allow a few weeks to heal. |
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Post by mouth on Sept 27, 2014 12:37:30 GMT -5
tbh i prefer young noel over old noel. young noel sounds more poweful and raw, whereas old noel sounds, as someone has put it before, too cheesy in parts. and since a while he's been doing this weird thing with his mouth when he sings. he also started to pronounce certain words in his songs in an annoying way. young noel didn't do this crap.
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Post by zatine87 on Sept 27, 2014 12:55:30 GMT -5
I really like his voice when it is a bit more raspy, like in Married With Children from the 2010 TCT gig, although there were some shows during the HFB tour in South America where it sounded like he was struggling to hit the high notes. Somewhere in between is perfect, I think.
Really excited to hear how he sounds like on the new record.
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Post by You're My van der Waal on Sept 27, 2014 22:40:55 GMT -5
It all went downhill after Kermit popped up for the first time. Argentina 2006 - worst live vocals ever, and I'm not only talking about Liam. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 28, 2014 2:11:33 GMT -5
tbh i prefer young noel over old noel. young noel sounds more poweful and raw, whereas old noel sounds, as someone has put it before, too cheesy in parts. and since a while he's been doing this weird thing with his mouth when he sings. he also started to pronounce certain words in his songs in an annoying way. young noel didn't do this crap. Yeah I notice that too, it's really annoying and makes him sound like a cowboy. Young Noel however, he was just yelling instead of singing when performing live. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 21:26:40 GMT -5
It all went downhill after Kermit popped up for the first time. Am I the only who fails to hear the similarities between Liam and Kermit?!? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 9, 2015 21:36:20 GMT -5
It all went downhill after Kermit popped up for the first time. Am I the only who fails to hear the similarities between Liam and Kermit?!? I don't know about Kermit but go listen to Wonderwall and then Start Anew. It's like a totally different guy and voice. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 9, 2015 21:54:29 GMT -5
It all went downhill after Kermit popped up for the first time. Am I the only who fails to hear the similarities between Liam and Kermit?!? Not really. Its just a disparaging term used to describe Liam's poorer performances. A pantomime description. And it must have been just me thinking that Liam actually sounded cracking on the last UK tour. Noel was an average singer that became a competent one. The difference between a young Noel and after Be Here Now is night and day. He really worked hard at it and deserves a lot of credit for that. His singing is fine but nothing more for me. On Oasis albums he provided a contrast which is what made his tunes more interesting, that obviously isn't the case anymore. I still think he is good but I struggle to listen to a whole record of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 22:15:02 GMT -5
I think it's because Noel sings for the entire duration of a show now instead of some songs. Also, does Noel warm up his vocals before gigs? I always tought that he just grab his things and go on stage. Exactly. He was superb when he just needed to sing 4 or 5 songs by gig. Now he does 20 songs, almost 2 hours singing, and on a tour this is very wearing. But what I can say, for me the potential of his voice is much more evident in here than in those versions from DBBT Tour. |
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Post by World71R on Jan 9, 2015 22:38:59 GMT -5
Am I the only who fails to hear the similarities between Liam and Kermit?!? I don't know about Kermit but go listen to Wonderwall and then Start Anew. It's like a totally different guy and voice. Those are the best two songs to go to, if you want to see an accurate transformation of how Liam's voice matured. Throw in Guess God Thinks I'm Abel, play Wonderwall before it, with Start Anew after GGTIA, and you'll get a good idea of how Liam's voice has matured & transformed over the years. As for Noel, listen to a Going Nowhere or Magic Pie, and then listen to the Jools Holland version of Where Did it All Go Wrong? or a good live version of Little by Little, while keeping in mind that it all happened within 1-2 albums  Disclaimer: Nothing against Liam. |
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