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Post by Gas Panic on Sept 21, 2014 9:42:38 GMT -5
Neil Young released several songs from the beginning of the 80's on his albums of the 90's. I mean that is splitting hairs when the vast majority of his releases are new material. Neil can get away with that since he's released something like 42 studio albums in the last 38 years. Noel and Oasis give us one every 3-5. It's more like 2-3 years with Oasis / Noel  3-5 is more like U2 |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 21, 2014 9:44:59 GMT -5
I mean that is splitting hairs when the vast majority of his releases are new material. Neil can get away with that since he's released something like 42 studio albums in the last 38 years. Noel and Oasis give us one every 3-5. It's more like 2-3 years with Oasis / Noel 3-5 is more like U2 My point is a guy like Neil Young is constantly cranking out material. He never stops. I'd love for Noel to mimic one of his idols and he so prolific, especially since he is already 47. We've gotten lazy Noel too much over the last 10-13 years. |
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Post by freddy838 on Sept 21, 2014 12:01:34 GMT -5
Just listened to it again for the first time in years, nah I'm not having it. Poor man's Flashbax. I can't see it being in the top 10-12 songs he can choose from 15 years' worth of material.
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Post by drevil21050 on Sept 21, 2014 13:13:30 GMT -5
No, no , no
Why you people want songs we already know and have on the album is beyond me! Revolution song is good but not all that.
Honestly i do not want one song we have already heard in demo form or etc on the album. B-sides ok but let the album be new and orginal.
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Post by drevil21050 on Sept 21, 2014 13:15:21 GMT -5
Lmao this is my 7th post since 2005.
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Post by mkoasis on Sept 21, 2014 13:19:47 GMT -5
I like the song, its definitely a good number (sort of Noel's Let It Be) but I don't think it needs to be revived after 1999. If its on the album, fine. But I'd rather go with something more fresh and leave this one as a hidden gem for fans like us.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Sept 21, 2014 13:30:00 GMT -5
The fact that Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are imho two of the weakest tracks on his first album tells me that he shouldn't rework songs from the past. I'd rather have fresh tunes than songs that we already have in some version. And as some of you pointed out, Noel claims to write "all the time", so I can't understand why he even enjoys to work on songs from more than 10 years ago. He must have loads and loads of new songs floating around. Edit: And to those of you who voted for "Yes, in the current form": Why? You already have the song in that version? Doesn't make sense to me at all?  |
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Post by deadman on Sept 21, 2014 13:45:22 GMT -5
The fact that Record Machine and Stop The Clocks are imho two of the weakest tracks on his first album tells me that he shouldn't rework songs from the past. I'd rather have fresh tunes than songs that we already have in some version. And as some of you pointed out, Noel claims to write "all the time", so I can't understand why he even enjoys to work on songs from more than 10 years ago. He must have loads and loads of new songs floating around. But a lot of those "new" songs likely have some elements first formed years ago. That's a songwriting staple, and every songwriter worth his salt won't hesitate to use some old piece of melody or lyric if they feel it works some years down the line. Noel has done it throughout his career. What I don't think Noel will do is use a song like Revolution Song, purely because he knows it's known by the fans in it's previous form as a demo. He made a big deal when doing the first album, that Record Machine and Stop the Clocks were his last calling cards to old Oasis knock-offs and I don't think he'll change his mind, especially if he's been prolific in the last 3 years. Maybe a b-side or on a soundtrack, but I don't think he'd use it on an album. |
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 21, 2014 13:45:52 GMT -5
Yeah, that doesn't really make sense to me either. None of those things you just mentioned, but especially the "yes in it's current form" thing. For all you know he might have added bagpipes and panflutes.
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Sept 21, 2014 14:06:52 GMT -5
But a lot of those "new" songs likely have some elements first formed years ago. That's a songwriting staple, and every songwriter worth his salt won't hesitate to use some old piece of melody or lyric if they feel it works some years down the line. Noel has done it throughout his career. What I don't think Noel will do is use a song like Revolution Song, purely because he knows it's known by the fans in it's previous form as a demo. He made a big deal when doing the first album, that Record Machine and Stop the Clocks were his last calling cards to old Oasis knock-offs and I don't think he'll change his mind, especially if he's been prolific in the last 3 years. Maybe a b-side or on a soundtrack, but I don't think he'd use it on an album. Almost forgot about that! He indeed made it pretty clear that these two were the last remains from Oasis. So I would be quite surprised if such an old song like Revolution song made it on the actual album, maybe as a B-Side, but that would be okay with me (I would prefer a new song though  ). |
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Post by matt on Sept 21, 2014 15:21:36 GMT -5
I think all of the tunes from the first album (and b-sides) are better than Revolution Song in my opinion - barring the atrocious Good Rebel of course.
It's a high standard from that album but all his new songs - the ones that weren't ten years old and were written after Dig Out Your Soul - have been excellent in my opinion. They all sound fresh compared to Revolution Song. Perhaps by association of that era it was written in might be clouding my judgement of Revolution Song, but I don't think so - on it's own it is a bit too plodding and tired sounding for my liking. Perhaps a drastic reworking of it might work - the verse melodies are nice I do admit, but it's probably best left where it is in my opinion or, at the very best, be included as a b-side on the new album.
A decent tune, but he can do much much better considering recent form.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Sept 21, 2014 15:28:05 GMT -5
For such a brilliant songwriter, Noel sure does love to release relics from the past. Write new material like your idols Neil Young , Ray Davies, David Bowie would do. Neil Young often includes unreleased songs on new albums that are 20-30 years old. He should just leave it where it is. It sounds too typical of his late 90's dadrock style of writing. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 21, 2014 15:49:35 GMT -5
I hope its on the album cos its a really good song. Proper second single quality. I hope Happy is being genuine and not sarcastic. |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 25, 2014 12:18:03 GMT -5
I hope it's the first single from the new album just to see this place go up in flames  |
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Post by LlAM on Sept 25, 2014 12:59:18 GMT -5
I hope its on the album cos its a really good song. Proper second single quality. I hope Happy is being genuine and not sarcastic. I'm as serious as it gets mate. If isn't the second single I'm gonna be proper upset! Singles off the new album (with b-sides): 1 Come On Outside 2 She Must Be One Of Us 3 Oh Lord! 1 Solve My mystery 2 God Help Us All 3 Just Let It Come Down Over Me 1 The Dying Of The Light 2 For One So Young 3 Don't Stop The Happening |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Sept 25, 2014 13:13:03 GMT -5
No, I'd be borderline annoyed if it was.
Its not so much that the song is 15 years old, its that it was leaked/released nigh on 15 years ago. What would be the point?
Height of laziness if he does, although I don't think he will
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Sept 25, 2014 14:03:01 GMT -5
I hope Happy is being genuine and not sarcastic. I'm as serious as it gets mate. If isn't the second single I'm gonna be proper upset! Singles off the new album (with b-sides): 1 Come On Outside 2 She Must Be One Of Us 3 Oh Lord! 1 Solve My mystery 2 God Help Us All 3 Just Let It Come Down Over Me 1 The Dying Of The Light 2 For One So Young 3 Don't Stop The Happening "Darling don't give me shit, 'cause I know that you're full of it. You're full of shit, you're full of shit" |
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Post by jonnylud on Sept 25, 2014 14:08:51 GMT -5
The song does sound like a SOTSOG era song, especially when he says Revolution sooong, reminds me of another of the b sides he done then..
I have to say whilst it's great to hear the excitement about demos, it kinda ruins it. Loads of artists write songs and leave them for a few years, Some of Morning Glory was probably written in the DM era but because you had no access to it you could never compare the demos, now I hear people say "oh it should be like this or that" what a load of bollocks- he wrote it and produced it the way he wants it's just when you hear a demo your subconscious imagines how it could sound like and it gets too hyped in your head and when it's not like that it's a disappointment.
The classic example of this was Mardy Bum, when hearing the proper album version I thought it was terrible and loads of people on forums said " oh it sounds like he smoked 20 fags the night before sounds terrible blah blah"...
Have you heard the monkeys demos now all those years later? They don't sound anyway near the album version.
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