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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 12, 2015 6:34:51 GMT -5
Every time I see a post being made in this thread I think we are "closer" to the Be Here Now release date but in reality we have never been further away.
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Post by theyknowwhatimean on Aug 12, 2015 7:05:44 GMT -5
I really wish he'd gone through with editing down of some of the songs. Noel says you can't tamper with the songs like that because it's "someone's favourite album." If it's someone's favourite ever album, over all the other albums that have ever been released, chances are they like everything about it, even the shit production. And so what's the point in remastering it at all? He should have dealt with the biggest culprits (ie. Magic Pie and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)) and put em on disc 3. It'd interest me infinitely more than a rough, Noel-sung demo ever would.
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Post by herbalife on Aug 12, 2015 7:22:39 GMT -5
(hahahah lennon) My guess is the Be Here Now release is this year in November and if not early next year. Of course I'd like to see it be this one. But you know what I am like at guessing. Here we are talking about an album that wasn't even that great and was mostly built on hype almost 20 years ago believe it or not. Where are all the other Oasis albums that were meant to rival it? I do wonder apart from Noels demos for the record in mid 1996...what else will be on it, B Sides of course and perhaps some unheard of songs, definitely demos which will be interesting to hear. Live tracks from 1997 and 1998, perhaps an acoustic version of Help, by John Lennon. I hope Owen Morris has done an alternative mix or shortening on some of the tracks for the bonus cd, I would say he very well might of. To tell you the truth, I don't think Noel could be bothered re-organizing that album, I think he is more interested in Heathen Chemistry and that album they did that wasn't very good back in 2000.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Aug 12, 2015 14:33:42 GMT -5
Did he? I was under the impression that our main clue was Brian cannon saying that it'll be out "later this year" on Facebook months ago. Yes, he did say that during AMA on Reddit. He said it in the sense of being already approached by managment some time ago about ideas how to remaster it. So Noel said that managment and Noel himself want it to be released in 2016. Not on Reddit. What he said on Reddit was "Okay. There will be a "Be Here Now" reissue. The Mustique Demos will be on it. Indeed."
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Post by LightsOffInside on Aug 12, 2015 14:51:39 GMT -5
I really wish he'd gone through with editing down of some of the songs. Noel says you can't tamper with the songs like that because it's "someone's favourite album." If it's someone's favourite ever album, over all the other albums that have ever been released, chances are they like everything about it, even the shit production. And so what's the point in remastering it at all? He should have dealt with the biggest culprits (ie. Magic Pie and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)) and put em on disc 3. It'd interest me infinitely more than a rough, Noel-sung demo ever would. As much as I'd love that aswell, he's already irritated me slightly by removing the backing vocals on Slide Away on the DM remaster, so if he's gonna just remove stuff i'd rather he left it alone I liked them backing vocals
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Post by herbalife on Aug 12, 2015 16:46:24 GMT -5
I don't see why people complain. I always enjoy hearing new mixes of Oasis songs even if time has gone by. I am not sure if I want Be Here Now to be shortened or not.
I guess it might give me an idea of what Oasis could of been if that album was different, but I don't mind it the way it is.
I still haven't gotten hold of the re-release of the first two albums but I do intend to purchase them. Just waiting until they come down in price.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Sept 2, 2015 21:03:10 GMT -5
There is no good reason why this reissue can't be announced and out in the shops by November. Let's put a bow on this project Noel. It's been far too fucking long of a process.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 2, 2015 21:16:08 GMT -5
There is no good reason why this reissue can't be announced and out in the shops by November. Let's put a bow on this project Noel. It's been far too fucking long of a process. The way it's going I can see this being a twentieth anniversary affair, given Noel's back on the road in December after moving house, and the Knebworth release & promotion coming up. Still at least it's in keeping with Be Here Now as a frustrating, overblown experience that can feel like it goes on for too long
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 2, 2015 21:19:03 GMT -5
There is no good reason why this reissue can't be announced and out in the shops by November. Let's put a bow on this project Noel. It's been far too fucking long of a process. Even if it did come out November of this year, it'd be over a year overdue. Fuck's sake Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 21:36:29 GMT -5
I really wish he'd gone through with editing down of some of the songs. Noel says you can't tamper with the songs like that because it's "someone's favourite album." If it's someone's favourite ever album, over all the other albums that have ever been released, chances are they like everything about it, even the shit production. And so what's the point in remastering it at all? He should have dealt with the biggest culprits (ie. Magic Pie and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)) and put em on disc 3. It'd interest me infinitely more than a rough, Noel-sung demo ever would. but anyone with a computer and cool edit could do that. i believe there are a few fan-made edits kicking around, so why do it with this remastered version if you don't need to? i want the full thing and songs that go on and on forever just like the REAL bhn is meant to be, not some butchered version. that was my main gripe about the rolling stone's grrr! 3-cd greatest hits collection. great tracklisting, great remasters, but some of the edits are ridiculous and simply unnecessary.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 21:38:10 GMT -5
I really wish he'd gone through with editing down of some of the songs. Noel says you can't tamper with the songs like that because it's "someone's favourite album." If it's someone's favourite ever album, over all the other albums that have ever been released, chances are they like everything about it, even the shit production. And so what's the point in remastering it at all? He should have dealt with the biggest culprits (ie. Magic Pie and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)) and put em on disc 3. It'd interest me infinitely more than a rough, Noel-sung demo ever would. As much as I'd love that aswell, he's already irritated me slightly by removing the backing vocals on Slide Away on the DM remaster, so if he's gonna just remove stuff i'd rather he left it alone I liked them backing vocals hold on. now, once backing vocals are removed, aren't we talking about a remix, rather than just a remaster?
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Post by mystoryisgory on Sept 2, 2015 23:11:42 GMT -5
As much as I'd love that aswell, he's already irritated me slightly by removing the backing vocals on Slide Away on the DM remaster, so if he's gonna just remove stuff i'd rather he left it alone I liked them backing vocals hold on. now, once backing vocals are removed, aren't we talking about a remix, rather than just a remaster? Yup, I guess we are, the backing vox were also removed on STC, which is a shame. Hope Noel pulls no more George Lucas's on us.
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Post by Cast on Sept 2, 2015 23:42:01 GMT -5
it just blows my mind how shitty the Gallagher's managers are. Don't announce this shit and then just put it on the shelf. Its not the first time either...
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Post by Manualex on Sept 3, 2015 0:37:23 GMT -5
I really wish he'd gone through with editing down of some of the songs. Noel says you can't tamper with the songs like that because it's "someone's favourite album." If it's someone's favourite ever album, over all the other albums that have ever been released, chances are they like everything about it, even the shit production. And so what's the point in remastering it at all? He should have dealt with the biggest culprits (ie. Magic Pie and It's Gettin' Better (Man!!)) and put em on disc 3. It'd interest me infinitely more than a rough, Noel-sung demo ever would. but anyone with a computer and cool edit could do that. i believe there are a few fan-made edits kicking around, so why do it with this remastered version if you don't need to? i want the full thing and songs that go on and on forever just like the REAL bhn is meant to be, not some butchered version. that was my main gripe about the rolling stone's grrr! 3-cd greatest hits collection. great tracklisting, great remasters, but some of the edits are ridiculous and simply unnecessary. The only things Im looking foward from BHN are the demos and the mix with more noticeable orchestra of DYKWIM?
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Post by beentherenow on Sept 3, 2015 2:40:43 GMT -5
I am seriously concerned about this to be honest,
I don't care if Noel confirmed it on that AMA thing, he also confirmed the AA project and look where that is,
Why this wasn't released last year is beyond me. It was announced along with DM and MG reissues which were released a few months apart here we are a year later from MG and not even one confirmed detail. Surely you should have the details ready before you confirm something
This is supposed to be part of the Chasing The Sun project yet that 'project' has done nothing for a year!
I know Be Here Now is long but my word it doesn't take this long to remaster,
Don't be surprised if it never see's the light of day
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Post by morning_rain on Sept 3, 2015 3:02:23 GMT -5
Come on, of course it will be eventually released.
The AA album was canceled because it was shit or because Noel was afraid that it would damage his solo career. Then he would've had to finish it, promote it and tour. With the BHN reissue he has to do nothing and there's nothing to loose. The songs are already there and it seems they have a lot of material so I don't see why wouldn't they release it. Is just a matter of timing and a Noel's schedule issue, they have to line up the rest of chasing yesterday tour, the knebworth release and BHN.
Just be (more) patient people.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 3:25:36 GMT -5
I am seriously concerned about this to be honest, I don't care if Noel confirmed it on that AMA thing, he also confirmed the AA project and look where that is, Why this wasn't released last year is beyond me. It was announced along with DM and MG reissues which were released a few months apart here we are a year later from MG and not even one confirmed detail. Surely you should have the details ready before you confirm something This is supposed to be part of the Chasing The Sun project yet that 'project' has done nothing for a year! I know Be Here Now is long but my word it doesn't take this long to remaster, Don't be surprised if it never see's the light of day I think they haven't released it yet because of Chasing Yesterday
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Post by beentherenow on Sept 3, 2015 3:29:26 GMT -5
I have no patience left
Also if I prepare myself for the worst if it does get released it'll be a bonus. If I'm checking on here every day for some news in anticipation and it does get scrapped my laptop is going through the window!
If this had been released on schedule in November of last year, it wouldn't have interfered with CY whatsoever, only delaying it did that
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 3, 2015 20:53:00 GMT -5
All Around The World (13 or 15 minute version done during the WTSMG sessions)Did you make this up? Never heard of that one... I've definitely heard of something like that, but it might just have been Noel exaggerating Recording Info LinkAccording to Nick Brine there wasn't a recording of AATW at the MG sessions although Noel played the song acoustically in the control room. Interestingly the way he refers to it in that link suggests extended version does exist from a session at some point, possibly BHN although that is 100% certain. TBH I am more interested in hearing the Liam sung DLBIA that he says there was a version of...
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Post by mkoasis on Sept 3, 2015 21:18:37 GMT -5
it just blows my mind how shitty the Gallagher's managers are. Don't announce this shit and then just put it on the shelf. Its not the first time either... You really had me there...I seriously thought that just happened today!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 0:13:40 GMT -5
I've definitely heard of something like that, but it might just have been Noel exaggerating Recording Info LinkAccording to Nick Brine there wasn't a recording of AATW at the MG sessions although Noel played the song acoustically in the control room. Interestingly the way he refers to it in that link suggests extended version does exist from a session at some point, possibly BHN although that is 100% certain. TBH I am more interested in hearing the Liam sung DLBIA that he says there was a version of... I want to hear the full Boardwalk version from All Around the World
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Post by MacaRonic on Sept 4, 2015 4:14:41 GMT -5
This thread gets me angry!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 4, 2015 4:24:15 GMT -5
I don't know whether to be angry at the delay yet. If the bonus disc is just a set of Noel sung demo's then I couldn't give two shits anyway. If there is something actually interesting on it then I'm angry.
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Post by guigsysEstring on Sept 4, 2015 5:07:25 GMT -5
I have no patience left
Also if I prepare myself for the worst if it does get released it'll be a bonus. If I'm checking on here every day for some news in anticipation and it does get scrapped my laptop is going through the window!
If this had been released on schedule in November of last year, it wouldn't have interfered with CY whatsoever, only delaying it did that Get you one of these delivered so you can safely put the laptop through the window then log straight onto the forum to vent your anger if that happens!
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Post by davidjay on Sept 4, 2015 6:54:17 GMT -5
hold on. now, once backing vocals are removed, aren't we talking about a remix, rather than just a remaster? Yup, I guess we are, the backing vox were also removed on STC, which is a shame. Hope Noel pulls no more George Lucas's on us. I don't believe any remixing was done for the 2014 reissue, only remastering of Owen Morris's original stereo mixes (sourced from half-inch analogue master tapes where available). The alternate mix of Slide Away was done in 1994 - it appears on CD-1 of the Safety Copy of Masters set. I'd describe it as a variant of the released mix - aside from that muted backing vocal it matches the released version. It also featured on Stop the Clocks. Hope this helps.
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