I agree. Politics can mess up entire songs. I'm glad that Liam and Noel don't really comment about what they think about the war and such, it's better they focus on the music.

In a vague, universal kind of way sure. Oasis are refreshing because the music scene presently is filled with left-wing, self-deprecating pontifical cry-babies who feel they "know everything and will teach their audience how to think". Anyone who's been to a U2 show on the last tour will attest to that (I walked out of a show as my brother and cousin are in Iraq). I was pleasantly surprised when I saw Coldplay at MSG; they stuck to the music and left the soapbox home. When Liam called out Martin for denouncing the Iraq war a few years ago at the charity concert for cancer, it was fantastic. There's a time and a place for everything. Like Liam said, if Martin wants to "bang on about the war, do it at your own show; not a benefit for kids who are fighting a war against cancer everyday". Oasis broke the mold. While I know their politics personally lean to the left, they choose to play their music and not try to indoctrinate their audience. They are the last of a dying breed.

I agree, bands like Pearl Jam that conutine to complian about EVERYTHING...while I agree was some of the stuff they say its like ...."oh come on! just play the music!!!" I do like mucky fingers I think it was perfectly placed and timed.

when done right i think politics and pop mix very well myself.

You should check out some of Billy Braggs stuff, I think you'd love him

Mucky Fingers is a million times more political than Up in the Sky

Oasis couldn't be political in their songs because they're not good enough songwriters (lyrically) to say anything political without it sounding terrible.

Musicians, as with anyone, can have any opinion they want. People think just because someone's a musician, or athlete, or whatever, that they shouldn't have opinions about anything other than what they do for a living. Rubbish. Freedom allows for people to say what they feel and that's never a bad thing. I don't think anyone should be limited just because of their job. If you don't like what they're saying (as with the person above who walked out) you have the freedom not to see them. Nobody should be restricted.

agreed.

oasis dont get political? did you guys miss 96/97? mucky fingers, cigarettes and alcohol, up in the sky? they've made a career of defining the working class and rebelling against the conservative life they were brought up in. and by the way, you come to a rock show to see the music the band is making. if you don't like the music the band chooses to make because its too political, maybe you shouldn't be at the show. generally speaking, most art that isn't purely pop music/art/film/etc. has a statement to make. whether it be about the self, society, cows, or otherwise, there is generally something to go with it. also, i don't understand why someone above had to walk out of a u2 concert because bono was talking about politics and the person had family in iraq. most people that speak out against the war speak out because they don't want to see people die, whether the soldiers or the civilians..what part of that would make someone angry? supporting your troops doesn't necessarily mean supporting your war or international policies. so again, what did bono say that was so terrible? something along the lines of "bush lied and people died. plus, i don't really support the troops so id love to have them come home out of harms way."?

and since no one has mentioned it yet - oasis and new labour....!! conservative rule sucks, blair will change everything, vote labour!

if thats not artists getting political, dunno what is. doesnt make them a 'political band' but they've definitely got involved esp at the beginning cos it was their roots, and they were talking about LIFE which was affected by the political situation in britain, as settins0n said...of course, they dont need to be arsed making political comments, as they sit with millions of pounds in the bank =D

im still curious about the person who had to leave the U2 concert because of bono's political statements..but really, why not just use the political rant part as an opportunity to go to the bathroom or get a beer or something? the last oasis show i went to i had to take a piss during mucky fingers/live forever. wish noel had gone on a political rant instead of playing the songs with no quit! the thing of it is that a lot of country music is conservative, a lot of punk music is super liberal, though i tend to think more on the libertarian side (not all that different from some country music), and most rock music is left leaning centrist thought that will go with the flow most of the time until they are roused into responding to an absurdity in the theater that is politics. you know all of this going into the music you choose to listen to. if not, you're a fairly naive individual.

for the life of me i cannot understand people that take issue with others for speaking out against the war as its "not supporting troops." if bono, chris martin, and noel gallagher stand up and say "we should not be fighting a war in iraq, lets get a plan and get out of there asap", which part of that doesnt support the troops? the part where they want troops out of harms way because theyve already seen X amount of Americans, Brits, and Iraqis killed? Maybe if people said "our nations security is imperiled by the idea of leaving a country ravaged in civil war and being run over with terrorism", you might have something there. But the argument that speaking out against the war doesnt support troops is just bullshit. Look at cuts the Bush administration has made to Veterans programs. Or perhaps look into the body armor and vehicle armor issues. To paraphrase, "You go to war with the army you have, not always the army you want". That was said by the secretary of defense. "Get out of the war so our soldiers stop getting killed". Thats the common phrase coming out of the Left. Which one supports the troops?

Rant done .

I always thought Lets All Make Believe was aimed at some of the departing bandmembers...