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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2014 16:26:35 GMT -5
Just out of interest, has Liam ever written a song with a chorus? I think not.
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Apr 3, 2014 16:43:12 GMT -5
Didn't Liam write the chorus of Columbia or something like that? If so, it's his shining moment (along with "so Sally can wait")  |
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Post by space75gr on Apr 3, 2014 17:51:08 GMT -5
liam needs that, liam needs this... but somehow the best track on DOYS is "I m outta time"...  Even a blind pig can find an acorn, know what I mean? but too many "acorns' in Liam's case make that proverb with no meaning at all (imo) |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Apr 3, 2014 18:02:53 GMT -5
Just out of interest, has Liam ever written a song with a chorus? I think not. |
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Post by The Milkman & The Riverman on Apr 3, 2014 18:04:01 GMT -5
If I'm to fall Would you be there to applaud Or would you hide behind them all Because If I am to go In my heart you grow And that's where you belong Sounds like a chorus to me. He admit he was waiting for years to write it though  |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Apr 3, 2014 18:20:02 GMT -5
Didn't Liam write the chorus of Columbia or something like that? If so, it's his shining moment (along with "so Sally can wait") He did indeed. I think I'm Outta Time has a better chorus, but Columbia is pretty good. Columbia's chorus is more classic to Oasis's image. |
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Apr 3, 2014 18:41:36 GMT -5
Just out of interest, has Liam ever written a song with a chorus? I think not. That bothers me too. Especially since Noel crafts amazingly catchy choruses with ease. IOT is the one exception and promptly, to me, by far the best song Liam's ever done. |
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Post by losingmyhead on Apr 3, 2014 19:58:03 GMT -5
Just out of interest, has Liam ever written a song with a chorus? I think not. That bothers me too. Especially since Noel crafts amazingly catchy choruses with ease. IOT is the one exception and promptly, to me, by far the best song Liam's ever done. I'm Outta Time is possibly my least favourite Liam Oasis tune and that includes Ain't Got Nothin and Little James. And that's a shame because it could have been so much more. It's possibly the most fully realized of Liam's songs from a melodic standpoint with some really good lyrics, but for fuck's sake, did they have to make it The John Lennon Tribute Hour while producing it? It even sounds a bit like "Free As A Bird"! It's amazing how many times Oasis took the easy route in recording their tunes. INstead of taking a Lennonesque melody and taking it in a fresh direction, they of course decided to make it sound as close to a John Lennon song as humanly possible. With a John Lennon sample of course. Jeebus. Liam is no a great melodist. I mean, come on, let's not dumb down the term with excessive praise. Ray Davies is a great melodist. Paul McCartney is a great melodist. Brian Wilson is a great melodist. Liam has shown some definite melodic talent, but he's leagues away from being "great". |
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Post by LlAM on Apr 3, 2014 23:31:58 GMT -5
Even a blind pig can find an acorn, know what I mean? but too many "acorns' in Liam's case make that proverb with no meaning at all (imo) I beg to differ. I'm Outta Time is the only spectactular/decent Liam track on DOYS. The other two are just plain boring and definitely not examples of great melodies. |
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Post by tezza198 on Apr 3, 2014 23:36:59 GMT -5
I think he's written some average songs, but hes also written some absolutely amazing songs! He should be more well known for his signwriting than what he is, there's a lot of talent there.
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Post by joladella on Apr 4, 2014 8:39:40 GMT -5
Just out of interest, has Liam ever written a song with a chorus? I think not. The "let's get along" part in "Guess God thinks I'm Abel" sounds like a chorus to me, f.ex. That "chorus police" at work again! I like songs that don't follow the verse-chorus-verse formula. Who says every song has to? |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 4, 2014 9:34:27 GMT -5
Well Soul Love's got a chorus, a good one actually
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 4, 2014 9:43:30 GMT -5
Anyway I think Liam has got a great ear for melodies (just like his brother  ), the problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to work on his ideas to get a "complete" song, d'you know what I mean? His songs are incredibly simple, which sometimes is a good thing (like Songbird), but most of the times they're just too repetitive. Maybe he's not bothered about spending more time on them, maybe it just isn't his thing, at the end the songwriting gene is a gift I guess,you're just born with it |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 9:54:11 GMT -5
Well Soul Love's got a chorus, a good one actually More of a refrain really. |
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Post by Jgrp on Apr 4, 2014 17:00:55 GMT -5
He wrote the chorus to Columbia?? Is this true? Never knew that.
Songbird is his best song IMO.
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Post by Boy with the Blues on Apr 4, 2014 18:04:02 GMT -5
Can't believe no one has mentioned Boy with the Blues or Pass Me Down the Wine yet! They're great tunes written by Liam.
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 4, 2014 18:05:41 GMT -5
Liam is a great side chick fuckist.
God bless.
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Post by Cast on Apr 4, 2014 20:14:41 GMT -5
Can't believe no one has mentioned Boy with the Blues or Pass Me Down the Wine yet! They're great tunes written by Liam. Pass Me Down The Wine is really underrated it is a lot better than The Meaning of Soul. Nice guitar lines thrown in there by Gem (surely?). Boy With The Blues is another one of his finer moments maybe my second favorite song by him. Sardy did a good job with this one. The pre-chorus is really nice "remember to shine" might sound like cliched Oasis but is kinda has some SOTSOG textures to it. The end is a bit too long though and it need a better guitar solo. Guess God Thinks I'm Abel is his finest moment so far. It isn't a classic song by any means but its a great song. Nice structure, melody, and the bombast at the end is great, just wish it was a bit longer. Songbird and Love Like A Bomb are good tunes, summer songs for sure. The piano on LLAB is superb. Neither over stay their welcome. I'm Outta Time isn't horrible but damn its really cliche and bland. Beatles tribute nothing more, would never call it a great song. Better Man, The Meaning Of Soul, Ain't Got Nothing are all very poor. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 20:23:46 GMT -5
Liam's got great tunes sure, but his writing seems ... maybe laboured? to me. at least comparatively. tunes just seem to ooze out of Noel, he can use the same basic chord progressions over and over and it's magic every time. Liam has like 'bursts' of good short tunes like Songbird, and I think he works hard for every one of those. but then it's like he runs out of steam or something, it just doesn't seem to come easy to him
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Post by Jgrp on Apr 5, 2014 4:17:55 GMT -5
I love Better Man.
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Post by scott1 on Apr 5, 2014 5:15:48 GMT -5
It sounded great live, and this is another of those tunes where poor lyrics are offset by a melody that works well. |
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Post by LlAM on Apr 5, 2014 5:41:01 GMT -5
It sounded great live, and this is another of those tunes where poor lyrics are offset by a melody that works well. It's more of a groove though, than a melody, isn't it? |
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Post by Jgrp on Apr 5, 2014 6:03:21 GMT -5
I quite like the lyrics!
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Post by bardes on Apr 5, 2014 9:23:32 GMT -5
Pass Me Down The Wine is overrated here.
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Post by scott1 on Apr 5, 2014 10:52:18 GMT -5
It sounded great live, and this is another of those tunes where poor lyrics are offset by a melody that works well. It's more of a groove though, than a melody, isn't it? True, I tend to think of them under the same umbrella. |
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), the problem is that he doesn't seem to be able to work on his ideas to get a "complete" song, d'you know what I mean?
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