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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 23, 2014 19:09:59 GMT -5
Been awhile since we all discussed the Modfather. Fucking love this band. Up there with The Smiths, Roses, etc.
What's your favorite album?
Setting Sons edges Sound Affects for me.
Wasteland is an absolute favorite of mine. Proper tune. Love everything about it.
Utter class.
Anyway, let's start a discussion on this ruddy bloody brilliant band.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2014 19:19:51 GMT -5
What's to discuss  The ultimate British band to me !!!! Absolute cracking singles , they ooze English culture of my youth , maybe not the rest here but me for sure , when I was a kid my rocker friends looked at me like I had 3 eyes when I played the jam .....clueless bunch who just knew the usual |
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Post by Sternumman on Mar 23, 2014 21:24:01 GMT -5
I dont get it. Ive tried but they dont do it for me.
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 24, 2014 2:05:23 GMT -5
One of my 3 life time bands:
1. The Smiths
2. The Jam
3. Oasis
Setting Sons is my most favourite album of theirs since my youth.
and if I may borrow kalas' wise word, "What's to discuss?" (rolling eyes)
The jam and Weller self (yet to these days) were born with the Union Jack on their back, so I do understand why The Jam never could reach the US.
"What you see is what you get!"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 4:15:42 GMT -5
I dont get it. Ive tried but they dont do it for me. No offense , but it's not surprising your in the majority of Americans who don't , Americans in general don't go for the truly " english " storytelling of life growing up' in 70 s uk they much prefer to hear the big sound of that era that doesent define " England " ( zep , who , stones ect ect all great as we know but don't scream ENGLAND ) . If you don't like the jam odds are you wouldn't like a fascinating movie " this is England " truly a story of how it was growing up English in the 80 s .... The jam are the most " English centric " band I ever heard more than Oasis the smiths or clash. So it's no suprise .....not knocking you at all , at least you tried most Americans don't. Though the ones that do usually get it cause the music is superb Edit And it makes perfect sense come to think of ot your a Springsteen freak. as I am ....my UK friends andi have many many most honestly never got him. Now mind you bruce wrote songs that connects to the masses in UK and everywhere else , but a lot of my UK friends didn't "get it " especially the real down home tunes like racing in the street , go figure Of course worldwide Springsteen is gotten as he sells out stadiums everywhere but he really took off after he went mainstream to do that ....the jam did not they stayed" ENGLISH " |
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Post by secondbite on Mar 24, 2014 5:17:44 GMT -5
Greatest band ever.
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Post by manic on Mar 24, 2014 6:28:15 GMT -5
I dont get it. Ive tried but they dont do it for me. No offense , but it's not surprising your in the majority of Americans who don't , Americans in general don't go for the truly " english " storytelling of life growing up' in 70 s uk they much prefer to hear the big sound of that era that doesent define " England " ( zep , who , stones ect ect all great as we know but don't scream ENGLAND ) . If you don't like the jam odds are you wouldn't like a fascinating movie " this is England " truly a story of how it was growing up English in the 80 s .... The jam are the most " English centric " band I ever heard more than Oasis the smiths or clash. So it's no suprise .....not knocking you at all , at least you tried most Americans don't. Though the ones that do usually get it cause the music is superb Edit And it makes perfect sense come to think of ot your a Springsteen freak. as I am ....my UK friends andi have many many most honestly never got him. Now mind you bruce wrote songs that connects to the masses , but a lot of my UK friends didn't "get it " especially the real down home tunes like racing in the street , go figure Of course worldwide Springsteen is gotten as he sells out stadiums everywhere but he really took his found mainstream to do thst ....the jam did not they stayed" ENGLISH " What about The Kinks? the rest is spot on though. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2014 7:41:21 GMT -5
No offense , but it's not surprising your in the majority of Americans who don't , Americans in general don't go for the truly " english " storytelling of life growing up' in 70 s uk they much prefer to hear the big sound of that era that doesent define " England " ( zep , who , stones ect ect all great as we know but don't scream ENGLAND ) . If you don't like the jam odds are you wouldn't like a fascinating movie " this is England " truly a story of how it was growing up English in the 80 s .... The jam are the most " English centric " band I ever heard more than Oasis the smiths or clash. So it's no suprise .....not knocking you at all , at least you tried most Americans don't. Though the ones that do usually get it cause the music is superb Edit And it makes perfect sense come to think of ot your a Springsteen freak. as I am ....my UK friends andi have many many most honestly never got him. Now mind you bruce wrote songs that connects to the masses , but a lot of my UK friends didn't "get it " especially the real down home tunes like racing in the street , go figure Of course worldwide Springsteen is gotten as he sells out stadiums everywhere but he really took his found mainstream to do thst ....the jam did not they stayed" ENGLISH " What about The Kinks? the rest is spot on though. Yes absolutely the kinks , why I didn't include with smiths oasis clash , the kinks were the voice of 60 s UK like jam 70 s 80 s UK. Why a lot of my American friends don't like or get them either ...... Kinks jam 1 1 a. Ai just dodnt include kinks cause I was referring to 80 s and late 70 s .. But yes spot on  |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 24, 2014 11:27:12 GMT -5
Strange Town is also one of my favorite songs of theirs.
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Post by John William Anglin on Mar 24, 2014 12:53:55 GMT -5
this album really helped me get into the Jam...  I don't know if it's the more modern sound of the tribute album or if the Jam do sound too english, or maybe they just didn't sound good to my ear at first but after listening to this tribute album I became a fan. Thanks. |
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 24, 2014 17:57:28 GMT -5
Like many others said Weller and the Jam are unashamedly English and it's not an insult to others if they don't understand or 'get it'
He Is what he is and writes the music he wants from the references that mean something to him.
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 24, 2014 19:40:42 GMT -5
I like some songs and that's all.
Shame on me, I guess.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Mar 25, 2014 1:50:08 GMT -5
Loved them growing up, they really reminded me of the UK. (My parents emigrated to NZ when I was a kid).
Stopped listening to them for a while but I have really got back into them in recent years. Butterfly Collector, Ghosts, Tales from the Riverbank and Private Hell are my favourite songs at the moment.
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Post by globe on Mar 26, 2014 8:56:44 GMT -5
6 brilliant albums in 5 years. The Gift is my favourite.
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Mar 26, 2014 9:08:54 GMT -5
Meh, I prefer The Style Council  |
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Post by lahaine on Mar 27, 2014 4:58:37 GMT -5
wouldn't go that far to be fair but they are in the top 20 greatest British bands that's for sure...
All Mod Cons. Sound Effects and Setting Son's are classic albums. Only think Weller ever came close after that was with Wild Wood and Stanley Road. Great singles band to.
I'd have a few British bands over them (The Smiths, The Clash, The Beatles, The Stone Roses, Arctic Monkeys, Oasis and Blur) But The Jam are a top top band.
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 27, 2014 13:01:01 GMT -5
Setting Sons is my favourite Jam album but I think it could have been improved further as: Girl on the Phone Thick as Thieves PRivate Hell Little Boy Soldiers When You're Young Burning Sky Smithers Jones (either version) Saturday's Kids Eton Rifles Dreams of Children Going Underground Wasteland But anyway, its got so many of my favourites. Thick as Thieves and Wasteland (as its been said) are just utterly perfect and powerful songs IMO. The songs of the album seem to deal a lot with growing up and how our worlds change for better and for worse. I also really love early Jam stuff. The high treble clash and intensity and urgency with which they play is really very satisfying. All Around the World for me is the best example of this. But In the City comes close  |
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Post by lahaine on Mar 27, 2014 14:29:09 GMT -5
I also really love early Jam stuff. The high treble clash and intensity and urgency with which they play is really very satisfying. All Around the World for me is the best example of this. But In the City comes close I hated the Jam as a punk band, they lacked the power somehow plus I felt like they forced themselves into been a punk band, i never thought they bought into it. Bruce Foxton with that horrible fucking Mullet too no respected Punk would have been caught dead with that. Weller really carried that band for coolness. Once they went a little new wave (yes the Jam along with Squeeze and Blondie were the first wave of New wave) when they started listening to The Kinks, The Who and other 60's band and came up with their masterpiece All Mod Cons is when they became the legends really for me, they stood out from the pack. The two songs you mentioned are the only bright spots plus the Modern world single from that brief stint with Punk. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 28, 2014 2:03:20 GMT -5
The Jam were/never has been a punk band although some songs from "In The City" had a punk influence, but they also got a brilliant song like "Non-Stop Dancing" with Motown influence and that's what Weller loved/loves.
Bruce Foxton might "horrible fucking Mullet", but he wrote brilliant songs like Smithers-Jones and Carnaby Street.
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Post by matt on Mar 28, 2014 11:30:21 GMT -5
They are quite rightly a seen as a great band - everything that's been said about them is justifiable.
But I think this is also an opportunity to state how underrated The Style Council were. Not in the elite status of The Jam perhaps, but they are one of the 80s greatest acts. I can't help but think that the image of The Style Council wasn't as 'cool' or 'trendy' as the mod look of The Jam which hindered their success, but as I keep banging on about 'taking it from a songwriting point of view', The Style Council were top top class. It was such a gutsy move to completely change your genre of music basically, and in effect, Weller had to build a new audience, apart from his hardcore fanbase. It makes them no less brilliant, and in fact, for me at least, takes Weller's reputation into the stratosphere.
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Post by jaq515 on Mar 28, 2014 17:37:53 GMT -5
Most TSC fans were still Weller fans still tho so that didn't really make a difference and he didn't build that much new fanbase unfortunately..
Don't forget Weller and TSC got dropped (which hit him very hard) so while it was an amazing thing Weller did to end a band while being on top for himself/passion he had it didn't really pay off
( side note It's so sad that noel holds weller so highly but bottles an 'uncommercial' album let alone what weller did)
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 29, 2014 4:50:05 GMT -5
Sorry matt, The Style Council were never something to me although I do love their first album. I actually have all of their albums, but the first one is what I've listened to the most.
BUT I don't think Weller would be what he is now without those Style Council years (you know what I mean? I'm sure you do).
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The ultimate British band to me !!!! Absolute cracking singles , they ooze English culture of my youth , maybe not the rest here but me for sure , when I was a kid my rocker friends looked at me like I had 3 eyes when I played the jam .....clueless bunch who just knew the usual 
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