|
|
Post by Manualex on Mar 7, 2014 16:56:34 GMT -5
WTF? meh. At least now they can't blame the tour dates like they did with POP.
|
|
|
|
Post by Headmaster on Mar 7, 2014 19:01:38 GMT -5
That is why they will never be as good as they were before, on each new album they spent 2 years on a studio, labored over the songs too much, brought zillions of producers, who also write the songs too, they should call it quits.
|
|
|
|
Post by matt on Mar 7, 2014 22:26:19 GMT -5
That is why they will never be as good as they were before, on each new album they spent 2 years on a studio, labored over the songs too much, brought zillions of producers, who also write the songs too, they should call it quits. I think Invisible is a great tune, nowhere near their best but at this stage in their careers, it's still something I can listen to with ease. The only album where the producers have had an input on songwriting is No Line on the Horizon - they took their Brian Eno collaboration very far with that one, but came to nothing really. I'm giving up on U2 for a while until they give me substantive information on a new album and I'm sick and tired of endless promotions of a couple of tunes. The MASSIVE problem with U2 is that they keep banging on about wanting to be 'relevant' etc etc (arguably haven't been relevant since 1993) but they are certainly going the wrong way about it. If they are so focused on being 'relevant', then why the fuck do Bono & The Edge write a shit broadway musical for Spiderman, pursue shitloads of business ventures, and the endless stream of humanitarian charity causes Bono does? Sound like a part time band to me, yet they are striving to be 'relevant'? Well, they've got their priorities all wrong. I've said before, if you are going to be a part time band, then you're going to sound like a part time band. Another thing, the promotion of Ordinary Love was ridiculous. Seemed as if they thought shoving this song down our throats by performing it at the Oscars and god knows everywhere else in the world that it makes them relevant. Again, why weren't they recording? Sorry guys, performing an average tune on all popular shows in the US does not make you relevant. I'm glad they lost that Oscar too, because it might have fed their delusions. Two songs with endless promotions and nothing really of substance to get interested in... it's very very tiresome. The band they are always 'up against' apparently in the media is Coldplay, but I think Coldplay's new stuff is way more interesting and that's holding my attention rather than U2, and it has really put it all into contrast. Chris Martin and co have shut themselves away for a good couple of years, said absolutely nothing and haven't been pursuing seperate ventures, and bang, they are back with some awesome stuff. Here's a band who knows their priorities - the music. I'm beginning to wonder whether this is U2's main priority now. I absolutely LOVE U2, and I think they have made some of the greatest albums ever, but even a hardcore fan like myself is finding this 'self promotion to promote nothing' tiresome. What's more, if they have an album out, their promotion will get worryingly tiresome. Their promotions are as subtle as a sledgehammer - nothing really creative, instead just forcing onto us images of Bono. |
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Mar 7, 2014 22:56:51 GMT -5
"its been 5 years so far . In 1980-1985 they made 4 albums that helped them get on the track to greatness. From 09-14 they couldn't even make a ham sandwich."
|
|
|
|
Post by matt on Mar 7, 2014 23:59:33 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/5930147/no-u2-album-tour-until-2015-ryan-tedder-paul-epworthAlbum reportedly delayed until 2015!!!! My point stands about them not having their priorities in the right order stand! If you can't dedicate yourself fully to the music 110%, don't be surprised if it comes back and bites you in the arse. The Oscar rejection probably did it for them, and they were probably intimidated by Coldplay's new sound, and just Coldplay in general. Delay after delay after delay - 5 years they've been working on this. Endless fucking around outside the studio has done this, if they can't commit, they should split up. What's even more worrying is that reportedly, Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic fame is working with them in the studio, who has worked with the blandest of bland singers Beyoncé, Maroon 5, Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, James Blunt, Jennifer Lopez. Ageing is natural, and Bono and the lads are getting on a bit, but I thought ageing only meant assistance up the stairs and not songwriting (if that is what Tedder is hired for). U2 fans messageboards going into overdrive and fuming about this. Seems like an indication of wanting to make slap band in the middle of the road safe radio pop. Whatever happened to the Bono in 1993 who released Zooropa and 'wanted to fuck up the mainstream'? Those days are now a long, long, long way away now. You just can't 'force' creativity and no amount of time will do that. The fact they've had 5 years to come up with something and the result is nothing suggests serious problems creatively.Pretty much given up hope for this band. Absolutely nothing - Johnny Cash releases an album later this month, and that's his second posthumous release in 4 years. Yes, that's right, even dead guys are more productive than U2.
|
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Mar 8, 2014 1:12:11 GMT -5
POP fucked U2 way beyond their own belifs. Now they'll strive for a hit and not making music for themselves. Sad times to be an U2 fan.
|
|
|
|
Post by matt on Mar 8, 2014 14:09:48 GMT -5
POP fucked U2 way beyond their own belifs. Now they'll strive for a hit and not making music for themselves. Sad times to be an U2 fan. I really like Pop, incredibly underrated record. But after that, they became too self conscious to maintain their mainstream success after the failure of Pop to sell much records. They succeeded, unfortunately at the expense of their creativity. |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 8, 2014 14:13:21 GMT -5
POP fucked U2 way beyond their own belifs. Now they'll strive for a hit and not making music for themselves. Sad times to be an U2 fan. POP is great. Very dark and moody. I dug this version of U2. Fantastic lyrics on the album, featured 2 big time tunes in Discotheque and Staring At The Sun. Tour wasn't that bad either when you focus on the music being played and not the giant lemon. |
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Mar 8, 2014 18:18:16 GMT -5
POP fucked U2 way beyond their own belifs. Now they'll strive for a hit and not making music for themselves. Sad times to be an U2 fan. POP is great. Very dark and moody. I dug this version of U2. Fantastic lyrics on the album, featured 2 big time tunes in Discotheque and Staring At The Sun. Tour wasn't that bad either when you focus on the music being played and not the giant lemon. Miami/the playboy house are  for me but I'll give you that the mexico DVD(and the rest of POP) is fucking mega |
|
|
|
Post by matt on Mar 8, 2014 19:10:04 GMT -5
POP is great. Very dark and moody. I dug this version of U2. Fantastic lyrics on the album, featured 2 big time tunes in Discotheque and Staring At The Sun. Tour wasn't that bad either when you focus on the music being played and not the giant lemon. Miami/the playboy house are for me but I'll give you that the mexico DVD(and the rest of POP) is fucking mega I think The Playboy Mansion is a great tune. I couldn't care for the religious elements in U2's music not being religious myself, but the lyrics are a nice spin on traditional Christian society turning into a money grabbing materialist society, with casinos replacing churches, and the 'gates of the Playboy mansion' replacing 'gates of Heaven' as the ultimate reward of life. Far better tune that most of what they've offered the last ten years. |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 8, 2014 19:20:37 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/5930147/no-u2-album-tour-until-2015-ryan-tedder-paul-epworthAlbum reportedly delayed until 2015!!!! My point stands about them not having their priorities in the right order stand! If you can't dedicate yourself fully to the music 110%, don't be surprised if it comes back and bites you in the arse. The Oscar rejection probably did it for them, and they were probably intimidated by Coldplay's new sound, and just Coldplay in general. Delay after delay after delay - 5 years they've been working on this. Endless fucking around outside the studio has done this, if they can't commit, they should split up. What's even more worrying is that reportedly, Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic fame is working with them in the studio, who has worked with the blandest of bland singers Beyoncé, Maroon 5, Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, James Blunt, Jennifer Lopez. Ageing is natural, and Bono and the lads are getting on a bit, but I thought ageing only meant assistance up the stairs and not songwriting (if that is what Tedder is hired for). U2 fans messageboards going into overdrive and fuming about this. Seems like an indication of wanting to make slap band in the middle of the road safe radio pop. Whatever happened to the Bono in 1993 who released Zooropa and 'wanted to fuck up the mainstream'? Those days are now a long, long, long way away now. You just can't 'force' creativity and no amount of time will do that. The fact they've had 5 years to come up with something and the result is nothing suggests serious problems creatively.Pretty much given up hope for this band. Absolutely nothing - Johnny Cash releases an album later this month, and that's his second posthumous release in 4 years. Yes, that's right, even dead guys are more productive than U2. You really think U2 are delaying their new album because of a couple of Coldplay tunes? They aren't that amazing. I wouldn't believe it would rattle U2 that much. Maybe their material is just waning in quality. Most people their age stopped being part of band 20-25 years ago. |
|
|
|
Post by matt on Mar 8, 2014 20:39:37 GMT -5
www.billboard.com/articles/news/5930147/no-u2-album-tour-until-2015-ryan-tedder-paul-epworthAlbum reportedly delayed until 2015!!!! My point stands about them not having their priorities in the right order stand! If you can't dedicate yourself fully to the music 110%, don't be surprised if it comes back and bites you in the arse. The Oscar rejection probably did it for them, and they were probably intimidated by Coldplay's new sound, and just Coldplay in general. Delay after delay after delay - 5 years they've been working on this. Endless fucking around outside the studio has done this, if they can't commit, they should split up. What's even more worrying is that reportedly, Ryan Tedder of OneRepublic fame is working with them in the studio, who has worked with the blandest of bland singers Beyoncé, Maroon 5, Kelly Clarkson, Carrie Underwood, James Blunt, Jennifer Lopez. Ageing is natural, and Bono and the lads are getting on a bit, but I thought ageing only meant assistance up the stairs and not songwriting (if that is what Tedder is hired for). U2 fans messageboards going into overdrive and fuming about this. Seems like an indication of wanting to make slap band in the middle of the road safe radio pop. Whatever happened to the Bono in 1993 who released Zooropa and 'wanted to fuck up the mainstream'? Those days are now a long, long, long way away now. You just can't 'force' creativity and no amount of time will do that. The fact they've had 5 years to come up with something and the result is nothing suggests serious problems creatively.Pretty much given up hope for this band. Absolutely nothing - Johnny Cash releases an album later this month, and that's his second posthumous release in 4 years. Yes, that's right, even dead guys are more productive than U2. You really think U2 are delaying their new album because of a couple of Coldplay tunes? They aren't that amazing. I wouldn't believe it would rattle U2 that much. Maybe their material is just waning in quality. Most people their age stopped being part of band 20-25 years ago. Nah, I don't think Coldplay have gone mindblowing ala Kid A, but the release was a surprise, in addition to favourable media attention and a surprise understated release, which given how popular they are is a big benefit. It's complete contrast to U2 - lukewarm reception in that people just don't seem to give a fuck, plus it wasn't so much a surprise release, more a force-it-down-your-throat approach which diehard fans were beginning to get fed up with - I mean how elaborate does promoting 2 songs have to be? But what was telling was that a Neil McCormick Daily Telegraph article (who is a big friend of U2) stated that, in comparison to Coldplay, their new songs were too mainstream and too familiar. Perhaps the Coldplay release (who aren't exactly the most experimental band anyway) has highlighted how safe U2 have become. |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 8, 2014 21:59:12 GMT -5
You really think U2 are delaying their new album because of a couple of Coldplay tunes? They aren't that amazing. I wouldn't believe it would rattle U2 that much. Maybe their material is just waning in quality. Most people their age stopped being part of band 20-25 years ago. Nah, I don't think Coldplay have gone mindblowing ala Kid A, but the release was a surprise, in addition to favourable media attention and a surprise understated release, which given how popular they are is a big benefit. It's complete contrast to U2 - lukewarm reception in that people just don't seem to give a fuck, plus it wasn't so much a surprise release, more a force-it-down-your-throat approach which diehard fans were beginning to get fed up with - I mean how elaborate does promoting 2 songs have to be? But what was telling was that a Neil McCormick Daily Telegraph article (who is a big friend of U2) stated that, in comparison to Coldplay, their new songs were too mainstream and too familiar. Perhaps the Coldplay release (who aren't exactly the most experimental band anyway) has highlighted how safe U2 have become. I will agree with you on one point. U2 did force feed "Ordinary Love" and "Invisible" down everyone's throats. Those tracks were played at various Late Night talk shows and one of them even got a Super Bowl commercial. You'd think they were building up to something grand, you know, like a new fucking album. If these reports are true and the album is ANOTHER year away, well then I just don't care anymore. The album with Danger Mouse was started in 2009. It is now 2014!!!! Just make music U2, stop trying to always reinvent the wheel or find some new, expensive way to tour. It's about THE MUSIC!  |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 11, 2014 8:05:30 GMT -5
And now the band says they DID NOT push back their new album to 2015 www.nme.com/news/u2/75981Just hurry up and make a fucking decision Bono. You are putting a ton of pressure on this band now so you denied this report. Shit or get off the pot. |
|
|
|
Post by John William Anglin on Mar 30, 2014 20:53:37 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by lahaine on Apr 3, 2014 18:13:42 GMT -5
POP fucked U2 way beyond their own belifs. Now they'll strive for a hit and not making music for themselves. Sad times to be an U2 fan. Pop is a very good album, ruined a little by it's last few tracks.
All that you can't leave Behind is a classic U2 album. End of.
how to dismantle an atomic bomb isn't great but it has a few top tracks.
no line on the horizon is a great album ruined by the fact they released a horrible lead off single which they never recovered from sadly.
Still think From War up until the Zoroopa they were the "Best" band in the world as well as the Biggest. Rattle and Hum was their worst album but you forgive it for having Desire, All I want is you and Angel of Harlem on it. Achtung Baby and Joshua tree are classic albums probably two of the best ever made. Baby showed that a big band can still surprise and shock.
Yes Bono is a prick but to say these are sad times for U2 fan's is a little OTT.
|
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 3, 2014 20:28:44 GMT -5
POP fucked U2 way beyond their own belifs. Now they'll strive for a hit and not making music for themselves. Sad times to be an U2 fan. Pop is a very good album, ruined a little by it's last few tracks.
All that you can't leave Behind is a classic U2 album. End of.
how to dismantle an atomic bomb isn't great but it has a few top tracks.
no line on the horizon is a great album ruined by the fact they released a horrible lead off single which they never recovered from sadly.
Still think From War up until the Zoroopa they were the "Best" band in the world as well as the Biggest. Rattle and Hum was their worst album but you forgive it for having Desire, All I want is you and Angel of Harlem on it. Achtung Baby and Joshua tree are classic albums probably two of the best ever made. Baby showed that a big band can still surprise and shock.
Yes Bono is a prick but to say these are sad times for U2 fan's is a little OTT.
No Line is destroyed by that middle section - I'll Go Crazy, Get On Your Boots and Stand Up Comedy (can't remember which order - which says it all). Truly diabolical songs. |
|
|
|
Post by lahaine on Apr 3, 2014 21:19:44 GMT -5
Pop is a very good album, ruined a little by it's last few tracks.
All that you can't leave Behind is a classic U2 album. End of.
how to dismantle an atomic bomb isn't great but it has a few top tracks.
no line on the horizon is a great album ruined by the fact they released a horrible lead off single which they never recovered from sadly.
Still think From War up until the Zoroopa they were the "Best" band in the world as well as the Biggest. Rattle and Hum was their worst album but you forgive it for having Desire, All I want is you and Angel of Harlem on it. Achtung Baby and Joshua tree are classic albums probably two of the best ever made. Baby showed that a big band can still surprise and shock.
Yes Bono is a prick but to say these are sad times for U2 fan's is a little OTT.
No Line is destroyed by that middle section - I'll Go Crazy, Get On Your Boots and Stand Up Comedy (can't remember which order - which says it all). Truly diabolical songs. Yep you got it right, they just felt like U2 were going for hit singles with those tracks, sadly it took away from the album although the beginning and ending of the album is top notch. |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 3, 2014 22:45:57 GMT -5
I haven't cared about U2 since 2002.
|
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 3, 2014 22:57:00 GMT -5
I haven't cared about U2 since 2002. Blunt and honest - and it's hard to disagree. I've given them some chances, but I've stopped caring ever since they promoted the buggery out of Ordinary Love. |
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 3, 2014 23:01:08 GMT -5
I haven't cared about U2 since 2002. Blunt and honest - and it's hard to disagree. I've given them some chances, but I've stopped caring ever since they promoted the buggery out of Ordinary Love. I feel really bad for the U2 fans on their version of Live4ever. Could you imagine waiting anxiously for their next album after talking about it nonstop since 2009? Every year they seem to promise it. It's now 2014. Crazy. Not to mention their last album was shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. |
|
|
|
Post by Manualex on Apr 3, 2014 23:26:02 GMT -5
Blunt and honest - and it's hard to disagree. I've given them some chances, but I've stopped caring ever since they promoted the buggery out of Ordinary Love. I feel really bad for the U2 fans on their version of Live4ever. Could you imagine waiting anxiously for their next album after talking about it nonstop since 2009? Every year they seem to promise it. It's now 2014. Crazy. Not to mention their last album was shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I went to their forum in atu2 and it was hillarious how the meltdown of when it was announced that the album wasn't coming this year happend |
|
|
|
Post by lahaine on Apr 4, 2014 10:46:06 GMT -5
I haven't cared about U2 since 2002. wouldn't disagree with you but their last albums weren't as bad as many of you on here make out. They had some great moments on them. |
|
|
|
Post by matt on Apr 4, 2014 17:53:20 GMT -5
Lennon2217 - Did you write this?! www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/artsfilmtv/music-is-secondary-to-celebrities-u2-263674.htmlThis is the big problem with U2 at the moment - I think they are too much in that celebrity bubble for their music to be relevant. It's not the sound of four guys trying to make their way into the world or proving their doubters wrong, it's the sound of some middle aged blokes happy with quaffing champagne. Building Malibu mansions? Trying to get an Oscar? Writing a shit broadway musical? Sure guys, that sounds like four blokes in touch with your average citizen. Once you lose that touch and all sense of perspective that you grew up with, you become mediocre and uninspired. Some say Noel has turned out like that, but he doesn't actively pursue the celebrity lifestyle and, although mega-rich, he seems in touch with someone like myself, and you can still here the inspiration in his music today. Can't say that about U2 at all.
|
|
|
|
Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 5, 2014 10:23:03 GMT -5
Lennon2217 - Did you write this?! www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/artsfilmtv/music-is-secondary-to-celebrities-u2-263674.htmlThis is the big problem with U2 at the moment - I think they are too much in that celebrity bubble for their music to be relevant. It's not the sound of four guys trying to make their way into the world or proving their doubters wrong, it's the sound of some middle aged blokes happy with quaffing champagne. Building Malibu mansions? Trying to get an Oscar? Writing a shit broadway musical? Sure guys, that sounds like four blokes in touch with your average citizen. Once you lose that touch and all sense of perspective that you grew up with, you become mediocre and uninspired. Some say Noel has turned out like that, but he doesn't actively pursue the celebrity lifestyle and, although mega-rich, he seems in touch with someone like myself, and you can still here the inspiration in his music today. Can't say that about U2 at all. Wasn't me. |
|
for me but I'll give you that the mexico DVD(and the rest of POP) is fucking mega
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5
Nov 4, 2024 5:04:30 GMT -5