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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2013 18:05:26 GMT -5
So U2 is finally back with new material. Thoughts? Feelings? Concerns? No idea if this is from the infamous Danger Mouse sessions or not. They have been sitting on that album since late 2009. Bastards.  |
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Post by matt on Nov 22, 2013 19:06:44 GMT -5
I've been finding info on this and most sources claiming it is produced by Danger Mouse, certainly has a contemporary feel to it.
The tune is dead centre middle of the road stuff, and for a band like U2 it is unambitious, but the band have not strectched any boundaries since the 90s.
That said, I think it's a very good enjoyable track and if you want to be mainstream then the song has to be good. Thankfully it is. I thought they were seriously losing their touch in being able to write radio friendly tunes after the diabolical (and I mean VERY diabolical) Get On Your Boots and I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight (with a title like that you know it's going to be shit) from 2009's very average No Line On The Horizon (though Moment of Surrender and Magnificent are brillaint).
Irish DJ Dave Fanning has hinted it may be on the album, but if it is, it will be a different version. They seriously dropped the ball with the last album - of all their albums it's the one I enjoy the least, it's not bad, but it's average and that's just not U2. Really looking forward to the new album though - it is in my top two of most anticipated releases of 2014 and I'm sure they realised their mistake with NLOTH to make it much better. Sources say album released in March/April. Can't wait.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2013 19:16:25 GMT -5
I've been finding info on this and most sources claiming it is produced by Danger Mouse, certainly has a contemporary feel to it. The tune is dead centre middle of the road stuff, and for a band like U2 it is unambitious, but the band have not strectched any boundaries since the 90s. That said, I think it's a very good enjoyable track and if you want to be mainstream then the song has to be good. Thankfully it is. I thought they were seriously losing their touch in being able to write radio friendly tunes after the diabolical (and I mean VERY diabolical) Get On Your Boots and I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight (with a title like that you know it's going to be shit) from 2009's very average No Line On The Horizon (though Moment of Surrender and Magnificent are brillaint). Irish DJ Dave Fanning has hinted it may be on the album, but if it is, it will be a different version. They seriously dropped the ball with the last album - of all their albums it's the one I enjoy the least, it's not bad, but it's average and that's just not U2. Really looking forward to the new album though - it is in my top two of most anticipated releases of 2014 and I'm sure they realised their mistake with NLOTH to make it much better. Sources say album released in March/April. Can't wait. I'm a huuuge Danger Mouse fan and supporter. I wrote 2 years ago that I wanted him to produce Beady Eye's sophomore album. Dave Sitek was close enough! Needless to say, U2 + Danger Mouse sparked my interest big time. I love all the classic U2 albums (Achtung Baby being their finest). I also love a lot of their 90s material more than their 80s output. In my opinion, POP, is extremely underrated and appreciated. The public's reaction to that stopped U2 from every being that ambitious in the studio again. Crying shame if you ask me. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 22, 2013 19:20:14 GMT -5
This song is the best tune from the No Line On The Horizon sessions and it wasn't even on the album! |
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Post by matt on Nov 22, 2013 21:08:59 GMT -5
I think Pop is brilliant also. It's a bit muddled at times - there seems to be two albums going on at once, with disco tunes mixed with darker songs like Wake Up Dead Man and tunes about the troubles in Northern Ireland like Please, hardly the stuff of club music! But it's very underrated and the album is even better when played live I think. I think this one is brilliant too, it's unreleased from How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. Was originally going on that album but was chucked off as it was too long.
I'm excited by the Danger Mouse collaboration too. This is their first brand new producer since they hired Eno & Lanois for the brilliant Unforgettable Fire in 1984. Flood produced Pop in 1997 but had worked on all U2 albums since Unforgettable Fire, so he wasn't really a new producer.
With Danger Mouse, they have opted outside of the tried and tested camp for the first time in thirty years. I thought the Eno/Lanois collaboration had gone stale on NLOTH, so I think Danger Mouse is that perfect producer to make things seem fresh for the band again.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2013 11:16:13 GMT -5
I think Pop is brilliant also. It's a bit muddled at times - there seems to be two albums going on at once, with disco tunes mixed with darker songs like Wake Up Dead Man and tunes about the troubles in Northern Ireland like Please, hardly the stuff of club music! But it's very underrated and the album is even better when played live I think. I think this one is brilliant too, it's unreleased from How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. Was originally going on that album but was chucked off as it was too long. I'm excited by the Danger Mouse collaboration too. This is their first brand new producer since they hired Eno & Lanois for the brilliant Unforgettable Fire in 1984. Flood produced Pop in 1997 but had worked on all U2 albums since Unforgettable Fire, so he wasn't really a new producer. With Danger Mouse, they have opted outside of the tried and tested camp for the first time in thirty years. I thought the Eno/Lanois collaboration had gone stale on NLOTH, so I think Danger Mouse is that perfect producer to make things seem fresh for the band again. You are right, that is a good song. It definitely would have worked on Atomic Bomb. I still can't believe that won Album of The Year at the Grammys. So many mediocre tunes on that release: - "Love and Peace or Else" - "A Man and a Woman" - "Yahweh" |
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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2013 15:27:22 GMT -5
I think Pop is brilliant also. It's a bit muddled at times - there seems to be two albums going on at once, with disco tunes mixed with darker songs like Wake Up Dead Man and tunes about the troubles in Northern Ireland like Please, hardly the stuff of club music! But it's very underrated and the album is even better when played live I think. I think this one is brilliant too, it's unreleased from How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. Was originally going on that album but was chucked off as it was too long. I'm excited by the Danger Mouse collaboration too. This is their first brand new producer since they hired Eno & Lanois for the brilliant Unforgettable Fire in 1984. Flood produced Pop in 1997 but had worked on all U2 albums since Unforgettable Fire, so he wasn't really a new producer. With Danger Mouse, they have opted outside of the tried and tested camp for the first time in thirty years. I thought the Eno/Lanois collaboration had gone stale on NLOTH, so I think Danger Mouse is that perfect producer to make things seem fresh for the band again. You are right, that is a good song. It definitely would have worked on Atomic Bomb. I still can't believe that won Album of The Year at the Grammys. So many mediocre tunes on that release: - "Love and Peace or Else" - "A Man and a Woman" - "Yahweh" Yeah, I agree it didn't deserve that award, it is one of their worst albums. A worrying trend that their two worst albums have taken on average four years to produce, and that they are the two latest ones too. This new one will be FIVE years in production - it better be worth it, it HAS to be worth it. I'm amazed at how this band in the 80s would produce a great album every year, but these last two efforts have been so bang average. There are a handful of songs that I love from them, but it suffers from 'Oasis syndrome' in that there seems to be a lot of filler. Perhaps, if Bono shut the fuck up and concentrated 110% on the band, and the band stopped treating the whole thing like a business, then they might find that inspiration again. But each and everyone of them is loaded, they are middle aged so I don't know where they're going to find the inspiration. STICK TO THE MUSIC GUYS! Stop acting (Larry), stop writing shit broadway musicals, stop talking to every leader on the face of the earth and stop with all these business ventures and concentrate SOLELY ON THE MUSIC! I am not a U2 fan because of Spiderman: The Musical or a god damn G8 summit. Is it any wonder they dropped the ball on the last album? People love U2, but they're pretty naive if they think that anything they release would sell bucket loads. They were shocked by the reaction to NLOTH and the poor album sales (by far the worst selling U2 album), hopefully that will make them buck up their ideas. I think if they can't release a good album this time round they should maybe call it quits - pains me to say it as they are one of my favourite bands, but like Oasis, if you're not going to give us a full albums worth of brilliant material over a production timespan of YEARS then I'm going to lose interest. I'm not expecting another Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree, but something I can easily listen to over and over again. All That You Can't Leave Behind was the last album I could constantly listen to of theirs, and that album is approaching 14 years old. Time is running out, and I think this is their last chance. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2013 20:30:51 GMT -5
You are right, that is a good song. It definitely would have worked on Atomic Bomb. I still can't believe that won Album of The Year at the Grammys. So many mediocre tunes on that release: - "Love and Peace or Else" - "A Man and a Woman" - "Yahweh" Yeah, I agree it didn't deserve that award, it is one of their worst albums. A worrying trend that their two worst albums have taken on average four years to produce, and that they are the two latest ones too. This new one will be FIVE years in production - it better be worth it, it HAS to be worth it. I'm amazed at how this band in the 80s would produce a great album every year, but these last two efforts have been so bang average. There are a handful of songs that I love from them, but it suffers from 'Oasis syndrome' in that there seems to be a lot of filler. Perhaps, if Bono shut the fuck up and concentrated 110% on the band, and the band stopped treating the whole thing like a business, then they might find that inspiration again. But each and everyone of them is loaded, they are middle aged so I don't know where they're going to find the inspiration. STICK TO THE MUSIC GUYS! Stop acting (Larry), stop writing shit broadway musicals, stop talking to every leader on the face of the earth and stop with all these business ventures and concentrate SOLELY ON THE MUSIC! I am not a U2 fan because of Spiderman: The Musical or a god damn G8 summit. Is it any wonder they dropped the ball on the last album? People love U2, but they're pretty naive if they think that anything they release would sell bucket loads. They were shocked by the reaction to NLOTH and the poor album sales (by far the worst selling U2 album), hopefully that will make them buck up their ideas. I think if they can't release a good album this time round they should maybe call it quits - pains me to say it as they are one of my favourite bands, but like Oasis, if you're not going to give us a full albums worth of brilliant material over a production timespan of YEARS then I'm going to lose interest. I'm not expecting another Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree, but something I can easily listen to over and over again. All That You Can't Leave Behind was the last album I could constantly listen to of theirs, and that album is approaching 14 years old. Time is running out, and I think this is their last chance. No Line On The Horizon was bloated, boring and largely ignored. However, that tour is the highest grossing of all-time. I know tickets were expensive and the production costs through the roof but I did have a good time attending. Got to hear "Ultraviolet" which was phenomenal. |
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Post by matt on Nov 23, 2013 22:01:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree it didn't deserve that award, it is one of their worst albums. A worrying trend that their two worst albums have taken on average four years to produce, and that they are the two latest ones too. This new one will be FIVE years in production - it better be worth it, it HAS to be worth it. I'm amazed at how this band in the 80s would produce a great album every year, but these last two efforts have been so bang average. There are a handful of songs that I love from them, but it suffers from 'Oasis syndrome' in that there seems to be a lot of filler. Perhaps, if Bono shut the fuck up and concentrated 110% on the band, and the band stopped treating the whole thing like a business, then they might find that inspiration again. But each and everyone of them is loaded, they are middle aged so I don't know where they're going to find the inspiration. STICK TO THE MUSIC GUYS! Stop acting (Larry), stop writing shit broadway musicals, stop talking to every leader on the face of the earth and stop with all these business ventures and concentrate SOLELY ON THE MUSIC! I am not a U2 fan because of Spiderman: The Musical or a god damn G8 summit. Is it any wonder they dropped the ball on the last album? People love U2, but they're pretty naive if they think that anything they release would sell bucket loads. They were shocked by the reaction to NLOTH and the poor album sales (by far the worst selling U2 album), hopefully that will make them buck up their ideas. I think if they can't release a good album this time round they should maybe call it quits - pains me to say it as they are one of my favourite bands, but like Oasis, if you're not going to give us a full albums worth of brilliant material over a production timespan of YEARS then I'm going to lose interest. I'm not expecting another Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree, but something I can easily listen to over and over again. All That You Can't Leave Behind was the last album I could constantly listen to of theirs, and that album is approaching 14 years old. Time is running out, and I think this is their last chance. No Line On The Horizon was bloated, boring and largely ignored. However, that tour is the highest grossing of all-time. I know tickets were expensive and the production costs through the roof but I did have a good time attending. Got to hear "Ultraviolet" which was phenomenal. That tour is amazing and I've no complaints with them live because they always put on a top top show, though I think it shows their lack of faith in No Line, because it eventually turned into a greatest hits/best of tour. Apart from the odd moment of genius that showed they've still got it (Moment of Surrender), it was good to ignore it. I just hope they never play Get On Your Boots ever again. Likewise, it was great to hear Ultraviolet, and for me personally, I saw them perform The Unforgettable Fire and it was incredible. A bit more risks and unexpected set lists would be great - I hope they dive into the unexpected for the next tour. Word has it that it will be much more stripped back to basics in terms of stage setup and so on, like the All That You Can't Leave Behind tour. I'll definitely be first in the queue when tickets go on sale! |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 23, 2013 22:47:20 GMT -5
No Line On The Horizon was bloated, boring and largely ignored. However, that tour is the highest grossing of all-time. I know tickets were expensive and the production costs through the roof but I did have a good time attending. Got to hear "Ultraviolet" which was phenomenal. That tour is amazing and I've no complaints with them live because they always put on a top top show, though I think it shows their lack of faith in No Line, because it eventually turned into a greatest hits/best of tour. Apart from the odd moment of genius that showed they've still got it (Moment of Surrender), it was good to ignore it. I just hope they never play Get On Your Boots ever again. Likewise, it was great to hear Ultraviolet, and for me personally, I saw them perform The Unforgettable Fire and it was incredible. A bit more risks and unexpected set lists would be great - I hope they dive into the unexpected for the next tour. Word has it that it will be much more stripped back to basics in terms of stage setup and so on, like the All That You Can't Leave Behind tour. I'll definitely be first in the queue when tickets go on sale! A more bare bones live act might serve U2 well. Just play some good old fashioned rock music. Set the theatrics aside for once. Oasis style! Till this day, U2's Elevation Tour is my favorite. Great stage concept (loved the heart), lighting and balanced setlist. The Atomic Bomb Tour simply copied the previous tours success, changing the heart to a circle. The claw from the last tour was a bit much. |
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Post by John William Anglin on Mar 2, 2014 22:32:31 GMT -5
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Post by Lennon2217 on Mar 2, 2014 22:41:02 GMT -5
I'm already tired of U2 for the year 2014. Mostly because this is the start of what will no doubt be an endless run of over exposure for the band when they appear everywhere for the next 6-7 months. |
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Post by matt on Mar 2, 2014 23:45:22 GMT -5
I'm already tired of U2 for the year 2014. Mostly because this is the start of what will no doubt be an endless run of over exposure for the band when they appear everywhere for the next 6-7 months. I have to agree with you. Why the hell would fans care about the Oscars? The fact they took time off to write this tune - which is pretty unspectacular - and delayed the album shows their priorities are elsewhere. And Bono galavanting off around the world talking to world leaders, The Edge's property designs, etc etc plus a shit musical based on Spider Man tell me this band are not a full time band. They seem more like a part time band. If you're a part time band, then you're going to sound like a part time band - which is what they've sounded like for the past few years. Don't expect to work your magic like previously if you aren't focusing 100% on the album. I was waiting in trepidation for Invisible, expecting more album news. But there's nothing and I'm really tired of all these talkshow appearances and award ceremony performances - talk about flogging a dead horse. They need to shut up, shut themselves away and get on with it. |
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