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Post by Headmaster on Jul 17, 2013 14:06:30 GMT -5
I like Blur, one of the best britsh band of the 90's, but they weren't so original like some say, they ripped many underground english bands of the 80's like Madness and XTC. This song just scream Blur. Listen for yourself, just imagine Damon singing it.
- Graham trademark guitar intro. Check
- Graham trademark guitar sound. Check
- Blur trademark "uuuhhhhhhhh" backing vocal. Check
- Graham trademark guitar solo. Check
- Damon trademark crazy scream at the 3:10 min. Check
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 17, 2013 14:14:19 GMT -5
And to show that I’m not biased, here is the Oasis sound, drums and bass under the mix, the guitar sound is the same as Noel, or 90’s Oasis at least, before Gem joined in, yeah you can imagine Liam singing it too can’t you?
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Post by marqueemoon on Jul 17, 2013 23:15:40 GMT -5
This isn't exactly a secret, is it? Like Noel said, you're only as good as your record collection.
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Post by nahuel89p on Jul 18, 2013 1:28:59 GMT -5
I agree with XTC/Blur, however I don't really hear Oasis in teenage fanclub (at least in that song). First Oasis sound (after they left back the baggy sound, which was heavily influenced my madchester) featured a heavy wall of sound, constant drumming, heavy flow (an hell of a good flow, btw) and aggressive lead guitar. 1994 gigs.
To me, that song sounds like the classical rock/pop formula, with a little drop of grunge mood. Sounds really american btw. Wasn't that what blur were fighting against when they came up? The american invasion/influence?
I think Oasis sound is more likely to be influenced by songs like this: (Ride is the band where Andy Bell was, as guitarist and songwriter, for those that don't know.)
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Post by nahuel89p on Jul 18, 2013 1:42:12 GMT -5
P.D: Talking about this, i'm always amazed at how this particular song seems to have influenced the Iron Maiden sound and concept of song:
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 18, 2013 13:08:01 GMT -5
I don't really see Ride influence over early Oasis, but Teenage Funclub was all over them, Owen Morris production was in the same style as TF used to be in Bandwagonesque era, bass and drums under the mix and loud guitars with pop songs on it,
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Post by marqueemoon on Jul 18, 2013 13:31:42 GMT -5
That Teenage Fanclub tune sounds so much like a Big Star tune!  Both great bands. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 15:46:54 GMT -5
Fuck me, that was incredible. |
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Post by nahuel89p on Jul 18, 2013 15:55:43 GMT -5
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Post by matt on Jul 18, 2013 21:29:13 GMT -5
I agree with XTC/Blur, however I don't really hear Oasis in teenage fanclub (at least in that song). First Oasis sound (after they left back the baggy sound, which was heavily influenced my madchester) featured a heavy wall of sound, constant drumming, heavy flow (an hell of a good flow, btw) and aggressive lead guitar. 1994 gigs. To me, that song sounds like the classical rock/pop formula, with a little drop of grunge mood. Sounds really american btw. Wasn't that what blur were fighting against when they came up? The american invasion/influence? I think Oasis sound is more likely to be influenced by songs like this: (Ride is the band where Andy Bell was, as guitarist and songwriter, for those that don't know.) Agree, spot on. For those lazy idiots who state Oasis as a Beatles rip off, I always say they had the melodic skill like The Beatles, but the sound owed more to shoegazing. A lot of shoegazing influence is noticeable on Definitely Maybe (in particular, Columbia) so it annoys me how people state they rip off one band. I hear loads of influences in Oasis's music before I even think of The Beatles - it gets more blatant later on in thde band's career, which is detrimental to the songs, but apart from the odd tune on Morning Glory, I don't hear a Beatles rip off band. |
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Post by matt on Jul 18, 2013 21:31:02 GMT -5
This isn't exactly a secret, is it? Like Noel said, you're only as good as your record collection. Interesting, I have a couple of mates who try their hand at singer/songwriting, and their tastes are pretty narrowly defined but you can definitely tell what music they listen to. I wonder if budding songwriters would change the way they write if they broadened their horizons to a lot more music? |
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 18, 2013 21:54:39 GMT -5
Yeah there is some Ride influence on Oasis sound, but they were more influenced by Teenage Funclub's Bandwagonesque era than Ride, and Noel used to talk more about Teenage Funclube than to Ride, at the time.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jul 18, 2013 22:24:28 GMT -5
I liked it when Blur got into Pavement. That influence really rubbed off on their self titled album. Good stuff.
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Post by marqueemoon on Jul 19, 2013 2:18:42 GMT -5
This isn't exactly a secret, is it? Like Noel said, you're only as good as your record collection. Interesting, I have a couple of mates who try their hand at singer/songwriting, and their tastes are pretty narrowly defined but you can definitely tell what music they listen to. I wonder if budding songwriters would change the way they write if they broadened their horizons to a lot more music? I think so, yeah. One band that really wear their influences on their sleeves are The Horrors. They went from a band inspired to The Cramps, to a more My Bloody Valentine and Neu! sound on their second album, to a more poppier Kraftwerk-esque sound. Speaking from personal experience, if you like a wide range of music then you're bound to pick out interesting sounds from different bands/genres to add to your own songwriting style. I think Nick Lowe said it best: "… I hadn’t been writing songs very long and, like everybody else who starts out doing anything creative, you start off plundering your heroes’ style and catalogue. When you’ve exhausted that, you move on to somebody else and do the same thing with them, and the day comes when you’re rewriting your latest hero’s works, and you put in a little bit of the first guy’s thing that you ripped off, a middle eight, or a bridge, and as it goes on you include more and more of these bits and pieces that you’ve ripped off, until, suddenly, you haven’t ripped them off at all. They’ve actually become your style." And I think Noel, at least when Oasis started out, is a great example of someone combining different bits of classic sounds to create something thats immediate and visceral. |
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Jul 19, 2013 23:32:00 GMT -5
Yeah there is some Ride influence on Oasis sound, but they were more influenced by Teenage Funclub's Bandwagonesque era than Ride, and Noel used to talk more about Teenage Funclube than to Ride, at the time. I've always thought Definitely Maybe also sounded similar to J&MC - Automatic, particularly the guitar parts. No idea if Noel's heard it though... |
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Post by marqueemoon on Jul 20, 2013 1:15:08 GMT -5
The Hindu Times demo reminds me of Automatic especially because of the drum machine! |
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Post by nahuel89p on Jul 20, 2013 2:42:29 GMT -5
Yeah there is some Ride influence on Oasis sound, but they were more influenced by Teenage Funclub's Bandwagonesque era than Ride, and Noel used to talk more about Teenage Funclube than to Ride, at the time. I've always thought Definitely Maybe also sounded similar to J&MC - Automatic, particularly the guitar parts. No idea if Noel's heard it though... What was that sound ringing around your heaaad? |
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