andytr
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Post by andytr on Jul 17, 2013 5:22:32 GMT -5
I have always hoped to see oasis reform but am going off the idea more and more.
the negatives are starting to outweigh the positives for me.
on one hand id love to here liam sing on a new oasis record- he always sounds great on the album.
but on the other hand he will murder the performances live.
whereas noel has been very good live with the odd bad performance here and there- liam has been the opposite.
plus if they got back together the songwriting would be shared so we would prob only get around 5 noel Gallagher written songs. I would personally have noel write the lot. he is a far better songwriter than the other 3.
so do we have noel writing and singing a full good album, then going on to do great live performances?
or do we have the band back, probably with some dodgy album songs from LAG on the album, and liam sounding shite at most concerts?
I never thought id say it but at the moment im leaning towards noel keeping solo. we are looking thru rose tinted glasses if we think otherwise.
liam needs to reign his attitude in aswell. you can get away with it when you are in the biggest band around producing good songs, and filling big venues, but when you are struggling with sales and selling tickets ect ect you cant be going mouthing off at everyone all the time. I know people will say this is the real liam and we love him like that blah blah blah.... but he seems to be coming off as a complete dick these days, not just a rock and roll star with plenty of swagger!
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Post by freddy838 on Jul 17, 2013 7:28:52 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel seems to wisely have gone into a role as an 'elder statesman' of rock n roll since leaving the band whereas Liam still seems keen on aggravating everyone and then is shocked that hardly anyone likes his band. But... I can see that having no baring on whether Oasis get back together. It will be because they get a huge offer and Liam and Noel will meet in the same room at some stage.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 17, 2013 8:56:14 GMT -5
Liam should be on suicide watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 10:47:27 GMT -5
I agree that he needs to drop the attitude a certainly stop insulting noel, I expect a lot of people would of respected him for "dont brother me" but then he said its not an olive branch ive got nothing to say sorry for (which could be true but why write a song about taking his hand?). Its like hes a really nice guy underneath but hes afraid to show it so puts on this persona of being a non caring, overly self confident asshole. Everyone has said hes really nice so why cant he just be like that?
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 17, 2013 11:18:17 GMT -5
I agree that he needs to drop the attitude a certainly stop insulting noel, I expect a lot of people would of respected him for "dont brother me" but then he said its not an olive branch ive got nothing to say sorry for (which could be true but why write a song about taking his hand?). Its like hes a really nice guy underneath but hes afraid to show it so puts on this persona of being a non caring, overly self confident asshole. Everyone has said hes really nice so why cant he just be like that? He should show that side more. He'd still have the attitude and cool - positivity breeds positivity |
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Post by gallagherbrother on Jul 17, 2013 11:18:38 GMT -5
He wants to keep the "rock star" attitude..
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 17, 2013 11:20:39 GMT -5
For the record, I'd have an Oasis reunion back in a second.
For all I love HFB and BE, I miss the big time feel to the stadium gigs, the promotion, ticket day, the interviews.
Wembley, Finsbury, City of Manchester - these were the times of our lives really
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2013 11:32:58 GMT -5
They will never record another Oasis record ever!! The writing process in Beady Eye is so drastically different than what occurred in Oasis... they opened pandora's box and they are not going back there. Sorry folks!
(however, a completely Noel pinned Oasis album would be the greatest thing since the advent of the modern internet.)
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Post by vespa on Jul 17, 2013 12:42:58 GMT -5
No hes not blowing the chance of a reunion at all,when stood in a stadium with 90 000 people singing champagne supernova do you really think people give a shit as to what liam sounds like and wether or not at 3 minutes 2 seconds he yelps a higher E note out??!!! Seriously come on and get a bastard grip
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Post by oneeye on Jul 17, 2013 13:36:08 GMT -5
It's a different Liam to the one we had in the past.
I dont know why he sings "angry" these days. I just wish he'd get back to the relaxed Liam on stage, 2002 and a little in 2005 he was like that. But going from 2006 to now, Liam just seems pissed with everthing.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jul 17, 2013 13:40:12 GMT -5
They will never record another Oasis record ever!! The writing process in Beady Eye is so drastically different than what occurred in Oasis... they opened pandora's box and they are not going back there. Sorry folks! (however, a completely Noel pinned Oasis album would be the greatest thing since the advent of the modern internet.) Yeah, I'd love to see an Oasis album with Noel's recent songwriting, Liam's voice, but without the lackluster LAG songs that held down the last few. And even though Beady Eye improved a lot with BE, I can't imagine that their songs would be like that on a new Oasis record - Flick of the Finger and Co. might be awesome, but we would never ever hear it from Oasis. I, for one, am happy with Beady Eye and NGHFB. I'd be happy about a reunion as well, but I don't mind if it doesn't happen. |
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jul 17, 2013 19:45:17 GMT -5
They need to go back to Liam singing noel's songs. Maybe have the best one or two liam written songs and Noel only singing one or two himself. Andy and Gem should just write the bsides or bonus album tracks.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 17, 2013 20:11:16 GMT -5
Yeah, Our Kid should sing Noel's songs, nobody else. He would have so totally NAILED "Freaky Teeth". Noel is, however, welcome to try his hand at warbling "The Nature of Reality".
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 17, 2013 20:14:59 GMT -5
They need to go back to Liam singing noel's songs. Maybe have the best one or two liam written songs and Noel only singing one or two himself. Andy and Gem should just write the bsides or bonus album tracks. YES |
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 17, 2013 20:23:23 GMT -5
Liam isn't being any more of a twit than he's always been. Noel is well-accustomed to dealing with it. When he rejoins the band, the new Liam will be FAR more humble and biddable than he's ever been. Instead of covering "I Am the Walrus", "My Generation", etc, the new signature concert cover song will be "Under My Thumb" from the Rolling Stones. And Liam will be GRATEFUL to be singing it. He and the rest of Meady Eye will jump whenever the Chief says Frog.
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Post by bestwick8 on Jul 17, 2013 20:54:10 GMT -5
I bet if the reunion were to happen, the album would still consist of half noel written ones and the other half for lag, but I bet the vocals would be 60/40 for Liam and Noel, maybe even 50/50
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Post by durk on Jul 17, 2013 21:12:36 GMT -5
nevermind the attitude. if he keeps singing like this live he won't be singing with anyone, let alone oasis.
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Post by fabulousbakers on Jul 17, 2013 21:25:14 GMT -5
Not too fussed about a new Oasis tour or gig but I'd welcome a new Oasis studio album.
They should have just tossed in the touring and become a "studio only" band like the Beatles did a few years ago. Most of the recent agro between Noel and Liam seemed to occur on tour.
Whether a "studio only" band could even make money these days is another matter.
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Post by yeayeayeah on Jul 18, 2013 1:23:03 GMT -5
Not too fussed about a new Oasis tour or gig but I'd welcome a new Oasis studio album. They should have just tossed in the touring and become a "studio only" band like the Beatles did a few years ago. Most of the recent agro between Noel and Liam seemed to occur on tour. Whether a "studio only" band could even make money these days is another matter. I would have loved that. I hate how long it takes for bands to relaese albums these days. The beatles did two a year, imagine that. The first 2 years of Oasis they were really good, 2 albums, 'Whatever'and heaps of bsides. I would have been a very happy boy if I was into Oasis instead of the Teenage Mutant Hero/Ninja Turtles. |
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Post by ricardogce on Jul 18, 2013 3:02:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind that at all. Best of both worlds: Noel focusing 100% on songwriting, not on running the band on tour, and Liam's voice being fully rested and sounding great all the time.
But while I can see Noel enjoying that kind of working arrangement, I'm not sure Liam can give up live performances. He may complain about Beady Eye playing small venues, but he goes for it anyway, even though they hardly need the money. It's in his blood.
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Post by GlastoEls on Jul 18, 2013 12:47:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind that at all. Best of both worlds: Noel focusing 100% on songwriting, not on running the band on tour, and Liam's voice being fully rested and sounding great all the time. But while I can see Noel enjoying that kind of working arrangement, I'm not sure Liam can give up live performances. He may complain about Beady Eye playing small venues, but he goes for it anyway, even though they hardly need the money. It's in his blood. Probably too simplistic, but Noel is the born creator, Liam the born performer |
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Post by gdforever on Jul 18, 2013 13:09:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind that at all. Best of both worlds: Noel focusing 100% on songwriting, not on running the band on tour, and Liam's voice being fully rested and sounding great all the time. But while I can see Noel enjoying that kind of working arrangement, I'm not sure Liam can give up live performances. He may complain about Beady Eye playing small venues, but he goes for it anyway, even though they hardly need the money. It's in his blood. Probably too simplistic, but Noel is the born creator, Liam the born performer Since we are living fantasy worlds were an Oasis album is only a couple years away anyways... Maybe Noel can write the albums and record them with the band and the band can go out and play them on their own live with a session bass player.  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 18, 2013 13:26:27 GMT -5
I bet if the reunion were to happen, the album would still consist of half noel written ones and the other half for lag, but I bet the vocals would be 60/40 for Liam and Noel, maybe even 50/50What a terrible thought. |
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Post by sain1957 on Jul 18, 2013 16:42:28 GMT -5
After carefully perusing this thread and reading some of the comments made I noticed that one particular psychological, familial element of the whole Liam/Noel dynamic is clearly missing: these two lads grew up within an utterly dysfunctional and grotesque clan in which Noel had to act as a kind of shield for the younger brother. Is it any wonder that Liam has issues in trying to "be himself"? Because, who is he really? I'm sure he struggles with that question. Often. Having said this: I'd shell out to see them play a series of 20th anniversary concerts in support of the Prince's Trust/Stamp Out Family Violence etc. in two years!
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Post by durk on Jul 18, 2013 19:49:01 GMT -5
After carefully perusing this thread and reading some of the comments made I noticed that one particular psychological, familial element of the whole Liam/Noel dynamic is clearly missing: these two lads grew up within an utterly dysfunctional and grotesque clan in which Noel had to act as a kind of shield for the younger brother. Is it any wonder that Liam has issues in trying to "be himself"? Because, who is he really? I'm sure he struggles with that question. Often. Having said this: I'd shell out to see them play a series of 20th anniversary concerts in support of the Prince's Trust/Stamp Out Family Violence etc. in two years! exactly- and precisely the reason- i think- it took noel so long to leave the band, and why he's seemingly not in any hurry to get back. |
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