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Post by gdforever on Jul 21, 2013 2:14:42 GMT -5
What if Liza had TOLD Liam she was on the pill/had a diaphragm/hysterectomy/etc? Condoms can develop leaks, or maybe he was so drunk he put it on over his foot instead? What if she stole the condoms from the garbage and used a turkey baster? Pill and diaphragms fail too. More than you'd want to believe. So do tubal ligation and vasectomies if you wanna be a stickler about it. (Women don't get hysterectomies for birth control...that's be like a man cutting off his testicles as birth control) The only fully effective birth control is abstinence as they tell school kids. Basically they should have kept it in their pants. Particularly Liam since he had somewhere to put it with zero negative consequences...his wife.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 21, 2013 2:18:21 GMT -5
Wonder what Gem and Andy think about his infidelity? Gem probably thinks "cool, man", and Andy's probably counting his shoes.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Jul 21, 2013 2:33:41 GMT -5
The only fully effective birth control is abstinence as they tell school kids. Well, there's that one other option they forget to mention..
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Post by marqueemoon on Jul 21, 2013 2:49:39 GMT -5
Alright Andy, just fucking reform Ride already so I can hear Nowhere live.
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Post by andymorris on Jul 21, 2013 3:01:15 GMT -5
There's no way BDI will break up now, it's the only thing Liam's got left
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Post by hugose on Jul 21, 2013 3:45:14 GMT -5
He's an idiot, and so is that journalist - what more can one say? Feel really sorry for the families involved. Hope it puts the annoying Oasis reunion rumours to bed, why would Noel want to team up with this furore? The journalist is no bigger an idiot than nicole was 13 or so years ago. Both of them got involved with a guy they knew was married. Shit, Songbird is supposed to be about Nicole, yet was also supposed to have been written during the SOTSOG sessions in France (which ended in August of 99). Liam's son wasn't born until September 99, so Nicole and Liam were at it whilst Patsy was pregnant with Lennon. It's horriblw for a lady (whom by all accounts is lovely) to be cheated on, especially when she is pushing 40, but Nicole is no less an evildoer than the journalist.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 4:51:43 GMT -5
Liam...well.....what....uh...when...
Im speechless.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Jul 21, 2013 5:14:13 GMT -5
Oh dear Liam. You think he would have learnt from all the other previous women he'd knocked up?
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Post by joladella on Jul 21, 2013 5:21:04 GMT -5
I keep wondering if it makes me a bad person that I could not care less whom he sleeps with or impregnates, if it is true. It's no one's business but that of those involved and the press coverage for me is the sickening part here. The only thing that matters to me is how this might affect the band. But the man is a musician I enjoy listening to, nothing more.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 5:28:13 GMT -5
I hope I'm not wasting prayer, but as Noel famously wrote, "Don't put your life in the hands of a rock-n-roll band; they'll throw it all away." I don't expect Liam to be listening to the wishes of his family, friends, and fans--I only hope that God is listening. What, your god's going to help sort Liam Gallagher's home life out but doesn't give a damn about kids being born with HIV with no access to clean drinking water, probably with a bit of famine thrown in there for good measure? Nice bloke.
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Post by 005 on Jul 21, 2013 5:47:04 GMT -5
Well I always said Liam's vocals have been poor since 2003 & they are going to get a lost worse now, the new BDI LP is rubbish, his PG Label may also suffer a bit from this negative press.
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 21, 2013 5:58:04 GMT -5
I keep wondering if it makes me a bad person that I could not care less whom he sleeps with or impregnates, if it is true. It's no one's business but that of those involved and the press coverage for me is the sickening part here. The only thing that matters to me is how this might affect the band. But the man is a musician I enjoy listening to, nothing more. It doesn't at all. I'm pretty much of the same view as you. It's awful for his wife but nothing to do with me in the slightest. He's a musician the music is what matters to me. How he conducts himself and lives off the stage or out of the studio is for his own conscience to deal with.
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Post by oneeye on Jul 21, 2013 7:11:15 GMT -5
Well I always said Liam's vocals have been poor since 2003 & they are going to get a lost worse now, the new BDI LP is rubbish, his PG Label may also suffer a bit from this negative press. Liam's vocal are a side matter - he can still be great on his day. BE album is actually a strong album but due to crap decisions in which songs to release as singles - the album hasnt had chance to really shine! Agree that PG may take a small hit but nothing drastic really. BUT, you just can't get away with things like this these days. Maybe a young Liam in the 90's, where he was constantly in the press for such shenanigans.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 7:52:35 GMT -5
BUT, you just can't get away with things like this these days. Maybe a young Liam in the 90's, where he was constantly in the press for such shenanigans. well, that's not really true is it? there are plenty of people 'getting away with' plenty of stuff, because, by defintion, you don't hear or know about it! I think that's the most interesting thing about all of this, the fact that it has actually come to light. If someone in Liam's position doesn't want a story to come out, it doesn't come out. This could have been dealt with privately in one way or another. Keeping this kind of situation out of the public eye is a whole industry and has been going on since the early days of Hollywood, right through the age of pop and rock stars and every kind of celebrity and famous person you can think of. For instance, the mayor of London's most recent love child scandal only came to light due to a court maintence issue that could have been averted. The Beatles had a fair few 'love child' cases paid of that only came to light many years later. It happens all the time. This one went to court. It could be a case of 'a woman scorned' wanting her day in court, it could be a way of a man who has been unfaithful pushing things to an inevitable conclusion becuase he wanted it to happen that way, consciously or unconsciously. In this case we'll never know, and it's really none of our business. But you can be sure of one thing - if Liam wanted this to have been brushed under an expensive carpet, it could have been. Right now though even a sunday times profile mentions his new album as being in the same category as 'Morning Glory' and his band maintaining the Oasis fanbase...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 8:40:33 GMT -5
Liam's having a mid life crisis! That Leopard print top should've given it away!
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Post by ricardogce on Jul 21, 2013 8:43:19 GMT -5
The misogyny is strong with this discussion! Why must this be some nasty, Rube Goldberg-like plot from a woman to shame a celebrity that's actually fairly anonymous in the US outside us hardcore fans? Celebrities having ill-conceived affairs is hardly unheard of. Throw a rock in Hollywood and you'll hit someone who's both famous and adulterous.
Look, Ghorbani had an affair with a man she knew to be married. She was in the wrong.
Liam, a married man and father of three, knowingly broke his vows over a period of years. He was even more in the wrong, because this is hardly the first time he's had beautiful women throwing themselves at him, he's been at it for literally 20 years now. And he still chose to think with his dick.
It's a sad situation for Nicole and the kids, and for Liam himself, even if he doesn't realize it yet. One of my favorite things about Liam for the last few years was how the menacing, sneering rock god was also a great dad and husband in private. I hope he hasn't thrown it away for good.
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Post by oneeye on Jul 21, 2013 8:50:55 GMT -5
Just seen the page in the Sun, supposedly with Liam telling friends "It's over with Nicole!" ?
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 21, 2013 8:56:44 GMT -5
Just seen the page in the Sun, supposedly with Liam telling friends "It's over with Nicole!" ? It's in the Sun and based on unnamed "friends" of Liam. Can't take this story seriously at all.
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Post by oneeye on Jul 21, 2013 9:04:34 GMT -5
Just seen the page in the Sun, supposedly with Liam telling friends "It's over with Nicole!" ? It's in the Sun and based on unnamed "friends" of Liam. Can't take this story seriously at all. Oh yeah, true, the Sun are known for it. But there just seems A LOT of information - far too much to brush aside as possibly false? I dunno? I definitely have a bad feeling for Liam. A mix of dissapointment that this may be true AND feeling sorry for him. Here's their story from today - www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/5025397/liam-gallagher-marriage-split-nicole-lovechild.html
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 21, 2013 9:08:19 GMT -5
Oh I think all the evidence says he has been a fool and done it I just don't believe Suns twist on it saying he is saying its over. And I never believe anything by "unnamed" friends lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2013 9:15:01 GMT -5
where's Andy,Gem and Chris while all this drinking is going on in Ibiza? gone home?
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Post by andymorris on Jul 21, 2013 9:20:24 GMT -5
where's Andy,Gem and Chris while all this drinking is going on in Ibiza? gone home? calling Noel for a touring job, probably
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 21, 2013 9:22:09 GMT -5
where's Andy,Gem and Chris while all this drinking is going on in Ibiza? gone home? The new bass player is in one of the pictures so I imagine they are around the hotel somewhere. Doubt any paparazzi is going to get shots of them lol Liam is the face of this band/story
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Post by oneeye on Jul 21, 2013 9:23:55 GMT -5
where's Andy,Gem and Chris while all this drinking is going on in Ibiza? gone home? calling Noel for a touring job, probably When Andy split from his wife a couple years back, Liam was there for him. Didn't Andy join Liam & Nicole on holiday as well?
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Jul 21, 2013 9:29:55 GMT -5
calling Noel for a touring job, probably When Andy split from his wife a couple years back, Liam was there for him. Didn't Andy join Liam & Nicole on holiday as well? I concur mate these lads are not just a band they come across as genuine mates. Don't see this having any effect on Gem & Andy's future at all.
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