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Post by General Dread on Jul 20, 2013 19:56:07 GMT -5
Well we can be looking forward to some great tunes in a few years. When people are in a shit position they tend to right the best songs.
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Post by thedon on Jul 20, 2013 20:02:32 GMT -5
He's a twat.
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Post by misterjones on Jul 20, 2013 20:04:56 GMT -5
Liam isn't very good at taking his advice... I do think this is rather unfortunate for him and Nicole. They're such a great couple.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 20, 2013 20:08:55 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Liam was still married to Patsy when Nicole took up with him--and she knew it. In my humble opinion, it happened like this: Liam was in New York, drinking like a fish as usual. A magazine put an attractive blonde girl under his nose and he took the bait like a drunk idiot. She didn't take precautions--accidentally or deliberately? And she had the presence of mind to get a DNA sample while she was at work--great planning there, eh. Her parents live in a million+ USD house--she ain't exactly starving. THEN she whelps the pup, THEN she tells Liam she's gonna sue him? Did she think Liam would marry her? Especially when he finds out their next date is in court? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." Liam has been on a steady path of self-destruction before and since Oasis combusted in 2009. I've been praying for years that he would come to his senses and stop killing himself. Even Noel has washed his hands of him. Nicole stuck by him--a LOT of women would have dumped him when he lost his big Oasis gig. Does he have the nerve to face Nic, look her in the eye, and ADMIT to her he made a mistake when he was away from home? Apparently not at this point. Maybe he wants to be left alone so he can drink himself to death and have done with it. I don't know the actual story by any means, but it looks like the whole sordid mess will be unfolding in the near future. My heart is with Nic and the rest of the family. We all love Liam, and I pray it's not too late for him to turn his life around.
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Jul 20, 2013 20:28:42 GMT -5
Good grief, her mother has gone to the press now...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Jul 20, 2013 20:49:13 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Liam was still married to Patsy when Nicole took up with him--and she knew it. In my humble opinion, it happened like this: Liam was in New York, drinking like a fish as usual. A magazine put an attractive blonde girl under his nose and he took the bait like a drunk idiot. She didn't take precautions--accidentally or deliberately? And she had the presence of mind to get a DNA sample while she was at work--great planning there, eh. Her parents live in a million+ USD house--she ain't exactly starving. THEN she whelps the pup, THEN she tells Liam she's gonna sue him? Did she think Liam would marry her? Especially when he finds out their next date is in court? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." Liam has been on a steady path of self-destruction before and since Oasis combusted in 2009. I've been praying for years that he would come to his senses and stop killing himself. Even Noel has washed his hands of him. Nicole stuck by him--a LOT of women would have dumped him when he lost his big Oasis gig. Does he have the nerve to face Nic, look her in the eye, and tell her he made a mistake when he was away from home? Apparently not at this point. Maybe he wants to be left alone so he can drink himself to death and have done with it. I don't know the actual story by any means, but it looks like the whole sordid mess will be unfolding in the near future. My heart is with Nic and the rest of the family. We all love Liam, and I pray it's not too late for him to turn his life around. I agree. Sidenote: That was also a lot of wasted prayer. You sure someone's listening?
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Post by thedon on Jul 20, 2013 20:53:42 GMT -5
Wonder what Gem and Andy think about his infidelity?
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 20, 2013 20:58:52 GMT -5
I hope I'm not wasting prayer, but as Noel famously wrote, "Don't put your life in the hands of a rock-n-roll band; they'll throw it all away." I don't expect Liam to be listening to the wishes of his family, friends, and fans--I only hope that God is listening.
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Post by oneeye on Jul 20, 2013 21:03:11 GMT -5
Got a bad feeling.
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Jul 20, 2013 21:11:21 GMT -5
Wonder what Gem and Andy think about his infidelity? Bet it's awkward considering they're all supposed to be friends.
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Post by dontgoaway92 on Jul 20, 2013 21:15:40 GMT -5
I don't think things can get much worse to be honest, he may well be forking out abit in the upcoming months, but i'm sure even just Pretty Green keeps someone like Liam financially secure. And the pasting he gets is nothing new and it's certainly not going to damage his career! Liam. Hated, adored, but never ignored.
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Post by thedon on Jul 20, 2013 21:17:08 GMT -5
Here's a good one for the conspiracy theorists that I've just invented: Noel was aware in 2008 of Liam cheating on his wife and it fueled his desire to leave the band.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 20, 2013 21:32:51 GMT -5
Wonder what Gem and Andy think about his infidelity? Bet it's awkward considering they're all supposed to be friends. I doubt Andy and Gem were oblivious if this went on for 2 years like they are saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 21:41:49 GMT -5
Don't know much about this , but I jus read the article ....it says she has the best law firm or lawyer in NYC .... But after reading this article , trust me Liam does Raoul Felder wrote the book on high profile divorce cases and breaking pre nups. He is the Johnny cocharan( RIP ) of divorce layers , the absolute best ...so Liam pulled out the big gun here no doubt,
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Post by weedyy on Jul 20, 2013 21:44:02 GMT -5
You know it has to be weird.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 20, 2013 21:46:32 GMT -5
If memory serves me correctly, Liam was still married to Patsy when Nicole took up with him--and she knew it. In my humble opinion, it happened like this: Liam was in New York, drinking like a fish as usual. A magazine put an attractive blonde girl under his nose and he took the bait like a drunk idiot. She didn't take precautions--accidentally or deliberately? And she had the presence of mind to get a DNA sample while she was at work--great planning there, eh. Her parents live in a million+ USD house--she ain't exactly starving. THEN she whelps the pup, THEN she tells Liam she's gonna sue him? Did she think Liam would marry her? Especially when he finds out their next date is in court? "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." I sincerely doubt the likelihood of things happening like you theorize since there was almost 2 years between the time that she did a story for the magazine and the conception of the baby. Maybe she met him and then 2 years set out to entrap him...but I doubt it. I thought the same as you when the story first broke. Liam made a single drunken mistake. But every report since has indicated that they had an extended affair that started in 2009 and ended in either 2012 or 2013. Not as simple as the evil women seducing the poor drunk rock star in order to conceive a bouncing bundle of a payday. As for her scheming for his DNA. I'm sure his representation would be the ones to demand that...no scheming would be necessary. It's not like by refusing to give DNA would have resulted in her being able to file suit.
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Post by bmore007 on Jul 20, 2013 21:51:00 GMT -5
Bet it's awkward considering they're all supposed to be friends. I doubt Andy and Gem were oblivious if this went on for 2 years like they are saying. I bet they all hung out together lol
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Post by The Spider And The Fly on Jul 20, 2013 22:23:01 GMT -5
I do too. I think Beady Eye might have to take a break or break up. Liam will have to try to save his marriage ( I would hope so) and there is no way Nicole will trust him to go on the road. A bad feeling...
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 20, 2013 22:30:35 GMT -5
"I sincerely doubt the likelihood of things happening like you theorize since there was almost 2 years between the time that she did a story for the magazine and the conception of the baby."
Maybe she met him and then 2 years set out to entrap him...but I doubt it.
"I thought the same as you when the story first broke. Liam made a single drunken mistake. But every report since has indicated that they had an extended affair that started in 2009 and ended in either 2012 or 2013. Not as simple as the evil women seducing the poor drunk rock star in order to conceive a bouncing bundle of a payday."
An "extended affair" for a notorious womanizer like Liam would probably be giving her a call if he HAPPENED to be in New York. He probably has a bimbo in every major city--at least "one in every port he sails to". I can't excuse his behavior--but he is WELL KNOWN to be an irresponsible cad. This Liza knew EXACTLY what he was before she let him dock his boat on her pier. She knew he was a drunk with monstrous appetites, no willpower, and no brakes. She KNEW he was married. The only other reason that comes to mind with besides calculating, gold-digging tramp who set out to "trap the drunken rock star" is that Liza was STUPID (even more stupid than Liam, if such is possible). And even if she was having a lengthy affair with a married man, there are plenty of contraceptive measures she could have taken to avoid destroying all the lives she is wrecking now--including that of her own child. Liam's philandering is no big deal to Noel and he's not that much better; you can't tell me he's been any more faithful to Sara than he was to Meg (he admitted to cheating on Meg with Sara, THEN avowed he just said that to get his divorce over with more quickly). Noel is just a lot SMARTER than Liam. Andy and Gem have been around Liam for over a decade--his female conquests are nothing new to them--as long as he keeps singing, it's none of their concern. Liza is no victim, and neither is Liam. These two bozos deserve whatever they dish out at each other now in the debris of the mess they've made. Maybe Liam will finally learn something (but I doubt it). I feel sorry for the families, especially the children. I pray that Liam and Nicole can repair their marriage, and that he will be able to earn and deserve her trust again. If Bill and Hillary Clinton can survive, anyone can.
Also: Liam should be neutered (as in a vasectomy).
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Post by gdforever on Jul 20, 2013 23:33:13 GMT -5
There are these things called condoms.
They are the man prerogative. A man wears them during sex and they probably should wear them if they are going go be having regular extramarital sex if only to protect themselves and their wives from STIs even if the women in question has a diaphragm, tubal ligation, AND is on the pill.
No one said the woman was a victim. Just saying that nothing much seems to add up in your "story" of what you think happened. If anyone is being made to look like a victim when they shouldn't be in our little exchange I think that's probably Liam who had a "woman sent to him by a newspaper" when he was drunk to seduce him into getting her pregnant and then suing him after the baby was born so that their "second date was in court." Give me a break. That's a long game for an American tabloid to play on a C-list celebrity (in the US)
Seems like you started from the conclusion "this bitch figured out a way to trick Liam into making her pregnant" and worked your way back from there.
No contraceptive is 100% or no one would ever be surprised by a pregnancy. Not saying that she didn't plan it...but that is hardly certain.
Fact is the only thing we know, assuming this story is the least bit factual is that they made bad decisions together. She may not be any more in the wrong than he is. Probably less since she owed no obligation to Nicole.
And who brought Noel into this? Why are we assuming he cheats on Sarah again? Because I wouldn't lay wagers on it.
Now this thread is depressing me more and more. Like a tragic play I can't stop watching.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 21, 2013 0:15:20 GMT -5
It would be very nice if NONE of the story was true.
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Post by collibosher on Jul 21, 2013 1:23:12 GMT -5
There are these things called condoms. They are the man prerogative. A man wears them during sex and they probably should wear them if they are going go be having regular extramarital sex if only to protect themselves and their wives from STIs even if the women in question has a diaphragm, tubal ligation, AND is on the pill. No one said the woman was a victim. Just saying that nothing much seems to add up in your "story" of what you think happened. If anyone is being made to look like a victim when they shouldn't be in our little exchange I think that's probably Liam who had a "woman sent to him by a newspaper" when he was drunk to seduce him into getting her pregnant and then suing him after the baby was born so that their "second date was in court." Give me a break. That's a long game for an American tabloid to play on a C-list celebrity (in the US) Seems like you started from the conclusion "this bitch figured out a way to trick Liam into making her pregnant" and worked your way back from there. No contraceptive is 100% or no one would ever be surprised by a pregnancy. Not saying that she didn't plan it...but that is hardly certain. She's not a victim. Whether she planned it or not, Liam had to have been okay with the possibility of her getting pregnant or he wouldn't have had sex with her or, as you say, he would have used a condom. He's equally responsible for the child coming into the world. Liam is a very wealthy man and raising a child from birth to age 18 or 22 is expensive. 3 million dollars for the next 22 years equals about 11k a month. Quite a lot for most of us, but not much at all for a rock star's kid. And I'm sure that figure is negotiable.
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Post by cigarsinhell on Jul 21, 2013 1:36:06 GMT -5
What if Liza had TOLD Liam she was on the pill/had a diaphragm/hysterectomy/etc? Condoms can develop leaks, or maybe he was so drunk he put it on over his foot instead?
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Post by matt on Jul 21, 2013 1:50:16 GMT -5
He's an idiot, and so is that journalist - what more can one say? Feel really sorry for the families involved.
Hope it puts the annoying Oasis reunion rumours to bed, why would Noel want to team up with this furore?
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Post by defmaybe00 on Jul 21, 2013 2:06:36 GMT -5
It's really bad for the family,imagine Gene and Lennon right now
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