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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 14, 2013 22:51:24 GMT -5
I don't play CD's, I don't even have a good CD player (the one I have is a simple walkman from 1998). I made the mistake of opening DGSS so I could listen to it on the walkman...once.
I got the deluxe version of Be, not signed or anything though. Would it be better to open it? Or keep it sealed as a collectors item even though it is not signed? Cause I would also like to look at the cover art and stuff.
Having the same issue with vinyls too. I wanna buy some old Oasis singles, and I want brand new, unplayed. But I don't want to break open something that has been sealed for years and will never return to shelves in original press.
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on May 14, 2013 23:28:58 GMT -5
Why the hell wouldn't you open it? unless you have a rare collector's item or a signed copy, do with a CD what you're supposed to do and play it!!!
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Post by Teal on May 14, 2013 23:34:03 GMT -5
You could always just download it online and burn a copy onto a blank cd if you don't want to open your new one. I don't take great care of my cds as I play them in the car alot or loan to friends and most have scratches or even skip and are unplayable because the more I like the album the more wear it gets. I take much better care of vinyl albums because many have value unplayed or as collectors items much more than cds do. Cds probably won't be around for another five years and only a few of mine are worth anything. To me cds are of much less value and I rarely buy them new anyways. If there is a new release I really want I usually can spare $5-$10 more to get the vinyl and feel like I'm adding it to my collection in a permanent format. So my thoughts? Cds are meant to be opened, scratched, played, whatever. But the Oasis vinyl I'd be more careful about. If I had any of those singles I wouldn't open them 1. because I already have heard all of their songs a million times so I wouldn't get anything out of it and 2. because of that even if I DID open it I wouldn't play it often enough to justify opening it. And most importantly 3. Unopened singles like that are worth $ as collectors items and won't be reissued. But it comes down to you're the one who paid for it so do what you want
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Post by psj3809 on May 15, 2013 1:17:24 GMT -5
Think its UTTERLY ridiculous not to open it. I like retro gaming and its stupid the amount of people who buy unopened games just to put on a shelf forever after thinking they'll be worth a few quid more unopened in 25 years time on Antiques Roadshow.
The CD's meant to be played, you're meant to get that 'new smell' from the booklet etc. Just leaving it in its cellophane is laughable. What next ? Getting tickets for gigs and keeping them pristine and never using them as they'll get folded/bent/broken etc ?
This is a music forum, you're getting a new album, OPEN IT when you get it
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Post by gdforever on May 15, 2013 1:32:06 GMT -5
Why not just buy 2 copies if you really want to listen to a CD and have one in pristine condition if it matter that much to you.
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Post by wooboos on May 15, 2013 3:36:24 GMT -5
i can safely say that a mass produced cd will not a be a collectors item in the future. think you'll be ok to open in!!
also on antiques roadshow 2040, when you rock up with your sealed copy of BE, unless its one of Gem's friedns doing the valuation, the chances are they will say " beady eye are who know?!?!"
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Post by oneeye on May 15, 2013 5:03:44 GMT -5
I kind agree to a point that you should open it, but when I collected Oasis - I would have killed for more items that were sealed, but thats because I knew what was inside them.
BE will never have the same collectability.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 15, 2013 10:20:15 GMT -5
Would you open a original press 7" Stop Crying Your Heart Out Vinyl Record? You could always just download it online and burn a copy onto a blank cd if you don't want to open your new one. I don't take great care of my cds as I play them in the car alot or loan to friends and most have scratches or even skip and are unplayable because the more I like the album the more wear it gets. I take much better care of vinyl albums because many have value unplayed or as collectors items much more than cds do. Cds probably won't be around for another five years and only a few of mine are worth anything. To me cds are of much less value and I rarely buy them new anyways. If there is a new release I really want I usually can spare $5-$10 more to get the vinyl and feel like I'm adding it to my collection in a permanent format. So my thoughts? Cds are meant to be opened, scratched, played, whatever. But the Oasis vinyl I'd be more careful about. If I had any of those singles I wouldn't open them 1. because I already have heard all of their songs a million times so I wouldn't get anything out of it and 2. because of that even if I DID open it I wouldn't play it often enough to justify opening it. And most importantly 3. Unopened singles like that are worth $ as collectors items and won't be reissued. But it comes down to you're the one who paid for it so do what you want
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 10:26:25 GMT -5
Music should be enjoyed, not kept on a shelf for 10 years. Crack that fucker open.
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Post by andymorris on May 15, 2013 10:26:42 GMT -5
In 20 years collectors wont exit anymore. I mean, It'll be 40 year old people that grew up with iphone and mp3s. They wont care about your CDs.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 10:54:22 GMT -5
Think of it this way if I had a VHS tape still sealed would it be worth anything? not at all it would be worthless. move with the times, not everything gets more valuable with age. My answer to your question is a four letter word OPEN!
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Post by webm@ster on May 15, 2013 10:58:29 GMT -5
In 20 years collectors wont exit anymore. I mean, It'll be 40 year old people that grew up with iphone and mp3s. They wont care about your CDs. isn't that what everyone thought about vinyl records?
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Post by andymorris on May 15, 2013 12:00:45 GMT -5
In 20 years collectors wont exit anymore. I mean, It'll be 40 year old people that grew up with iphone and mp3s. They wont care about your CDs. isn't that what everyone thought about vinyl records? Yeah but there was still physical formats, eg CDs, cassettes, so people were used to it. Vinyls still exist thanx to DJs and people obsessed with sounds (i am). Unless CDs become something else in the next 30 years i dont seem them being used by the younger generation. Once we die, physical formats will die with us. Bar a few relics, like Beatles originals or stuff like that. People don't value music that much anymore, unlike paintings and other arts.
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Post by Teal on May 15, 2013 12:14:18 GMT -5
Would you open a original press 7" Stop Crying Your Heart Out Vinyl Record? Probably not, for the reasons I already said. But the 90s singles are obviously worth more. I helped a neighbor sell/auction items from a record collection he inherited that included lots of 80s and 90s albums/singles. Ones from Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory era will go for around $45 unopened but I remember selling Supersonic for $90. It just depends whether you're buying it as a collectors item or to listen to it and enjoy it. Not a big deal to open that one in particular but if you eventually got all their singles mint or unopened vinyl that's impressive.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 12:27:43 GMT -5
In 20 years collectors wont exit anymore. I mean, It'll be 40 year old people that grew up with iphone and mp3s. They wont care about your CDs. isn't that what everyone thought about vinyl records? Yea But I think vinyl. Was different as you know buying a album alot of the times meant getting a poster or a booklet or in cheech and Chong case a big ass rolling paper Plus there is something about vinyl that's special and people will pay more. A cd is so. Bland , cold , doesent convey the same sense of nostagilia much like 8 track tapes they were great in there era but don't command collectors prices that I know of just sort of obsolete unlike vinyl which transcends time , I think CDs go the way of 8 tracks as tek progresses and vinyl keeps getting rarer the prices will keep going up So in short if aint signed and its just a cd .......PLAY THE FUCKING THING
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Post by Teal on May 15, 2013 12:29:17 GMT -5
So in short if aint signed and its just a cd .......PLAY THE FUCKING THING This pretty much sums it up.
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Post by jaq515 on May 15, 2013 12:45:01 GMT -5
isn't that what everyone thought about vinyl records? Yea But I think vinyl. Was different as you know buying a album alot of the times meant getting a poster or a booklet or in cheech and Chong case a big ass rolling paper Plus there is something about vinyl that's special and people will pay more. A cd is so. Bland , cold , doesent convey the same sense of nostagilia much like 8 track tapes they were great in there era but don't command collectors prices that I know of just sort of obsolete unlike vinyl which transcends time , I think CDs go the way of 8 tracks as tek progresses and vinyl keeps getting rarer the prices will keep going up So in short if aint signed and its just a cd .......PLAY THE FUCKING THING I agree but a do also think its a comparison as such. Like andy said in 20 years time we will be 100% digital world so if you get into a band and all your used to is seeing some artwork on a screen/ even colder experience than cd. How nice do you think it be to pick up a copy of definitely maybe on cd, a retro CD player and be able to physically touch the cd, read through the artwork etc. I think there will be a market for CDs obv vinyl be worth big bucks / for proper collectors but CDs for younger collectors vs digital in the future.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 12:47:00 GMT -5
Fair point jaq515 I agree the money won't be the same ,,, but its not signed so wtf ?? Even though its deluxe not signed and opened ,,,so there really is no need to think IMO
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Post by jaq515 on May 15, 2013 12:51:21 GMT -5
Fair point jaq515 I agree the money won't be the same ,,, but its not signed so wtf ?? Yeah on track of the thread. Like everyone said what's point of buying and not enjoying it.. If you want to buy one as an investment buy 2 stick one in the loft and see what happens. The fact there's 1500 signed ones kicking around a non signed not gonna do any business
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 15, 2013 12:57:41 GMT -5
Would you open a original press 7" Stop Crying Your Heart Out Vinyl Record? Probably not, for the reasons I already said. But the 90s singles are obviously worth more. I helped a neighbor sell/auction items from a record collection he inherited that included lots of 80s and 90s albums/singles. Ones from Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory era will go for around $45 unopened but I remember selling Supersonic for $90. It just depends whether you're buying it as a collectors item or to listen to it and enjoy it. Not a big deal to open that one in particular but if you eventually got all their singles mint or unopened vinyl that's impressive. I think that is what I'll be shooting for all the singles I can get me hands on unopened and unplayed. And I'll end up getting doubles of some so I can listen to my favorite Oasis singles on vinyl one day.
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 15, 2013 12:59:37 GMT -5
So in short if aint signed and its just a cd .......PLAY THE FUCKING THING This pretty much sums it up. I shall do this!
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Post by Teal on May 15, 2013 13:03:05 GMT -5
I think that is what I'll be shooting for all the singles I can get me hands on unopened and unplayed. And I'll end up getting doubles of some so I can listen to my favorite Oasis singles on vinyl one day. Would be awesome collection especially if you already have (or plan to look for) all the studio albums on vinyl as well. Good luck!
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Post by erddie on May 15, 2013 13:05:43 GMT -5
Did the Oasis singles even come sealed? Albums yes, singles...
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 15, 2013 13:06:26 GMT -5
Yea But I think vinyl. Was different as you know buying a album alot of the times meant getting a poster or a booklet or in cheech and Chong case a big ass rolling paper Plus there is something about vinyl that's special and people will pay more. A cd is so. Bland , cold , doesent convey the same sense of nostagilia much like 8 track tapes they were great in there era but don't command collectors prices that I know of just sort of obsolete unlike vinyl which transcends time , I think CDs go the way of 8 tracks as tek progresses and vinyl keeps getting rarer the prices will keep going up So in short if aint signed and its just a cd .......PLAY THE FUCKING THING I agree but a do also think its a comparison as such. Like andy said in 20 years time we will be 100% digital world so if you get into a band and all your used to is seeing some artwork on a screen/ even colder experience than cd. How nice do you think it be to pick up a copy of definitely maybe on cd, a retro CD player and be able to physically touch the cd, read through the artwork etc. I think there will be a market for CDs obv vinyl be worth big bucks / for proper collectors but CDs for younger collectors vs digital in the future. I disagree. People will ALWAYS want a physical copy of some sort. Perhaps not everyone for example, I prefer digital as it uses less space, but from time to time, I like feeling that I actually have bought and own the music I am listening to. I don't think 100% digital will be the next stage or ever, I think it will be more keen to small flash drives or memory sticks that you plug into a new stereo system or the like. Digital file, on a physical item. It wouldn't be a a player of any sort so it would be unlike an Ipod or something. It would still come in a case, which could still be signed by the band. It just won't be a large, round, shiny disk anymore.
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Post by Teal on May 15, 2013 13:09:51 GMT -5
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