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Post by liamgallagher1992 on May 10, 2013 7:17:31 GMT -5
The Roller was criticised by some for sounding too much like Instant Karma and other Lennon songs etc etc you know the story by now. And when compared to FOTF and SBOTA apparently the band have moved forward and the sound is becoming their own and they are not stuck in some 60s rut.
The Roller got to #31 in the charts on downloads alone. For me, it was a sing a long tune from a Gallagher. Something that sells. Something that got a bit of radio play and a bit of exposure. Another case of poor marketing as releasing the vinyl and CD formats at the same time would have boosted it further up the charts. Another thing they haven't learned from with SBOTA, anyway.
Is this new sound a real sign of progression? To me, it's laughable that when DGSS come out i don't think i heard one bad review from it. Then as soon as Noel came along saying "it's alright" and his album come out it suddenly become complete shit. Never understood that one. Now i love Flick Of The Finger and SBOTA but not for the reason it's a "new sound", i love LG singing on the great production but not because it s some new sound.
DGSS wasn't half as bad as it's now made out to be in my opinion. So SBOTA doesn't even chart. Is this a sign of no progression compared to The Roller? Or will this new sound carry the album to #1?
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Post by wil on May 10, 2013 7:32:07 GMT -5
Agree with you; first album contains really enjoyable songs but I think the new songs we already heard are kind of better as they offer something really more personal, less comon rock'n'roll.
Unfortunately, I don't think the charts reflects the quality of the music these days, just the money record company invests in the market campaign...
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Post by jv on May 10, 2013 9:02:41 GMT -5
There are some enjoyable songs in DGSS.
But The Roller (AKA Instant Karma) is a joke.
Beatles and Stones and that cliche rhythm guitar...
"Bring the Light and that cliche piano...
For Anyone with it's disney-movie-like melody... (WTF was that)
jokes, all of them. They sound like music from an amateurish rock covers band. Honestly.
Taking these songs out, that would be an alright album.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 9:19:03 GMT -5
There are some enjoyable songs in DGSS. But The Roller (AKA Instant Karma) is a joke. Beatles and Stones and that cliche rhythm guitar... "Bring the Light and that cliche piano...For Anyone with it's disney-movie-like melody... (WTF was that)jokes, all of them. They sound like music from an amateurish rock covers band. Honestly. Taking these songs out, that would be an alright album. Someone should eat breakfast in the morning before posting. What are you even going on about? The Roller and For Anyone are a couple of the highlights off a meh album filled with mid-tempo tunes. Bring the Light showed a willingness to try something a least a bit different and Beatles and Stones if nothing else is a tongue in cheek little rock song that should've been a b-side, but is hardly a low point on that album. ----------------------- To the OP.... It is hard to consider what we've heard as progression when the core songs underneath the stellar production are still C average. |
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Post by jv on May 10, 2013 9:45:00 GMT -5
There are some enjoyable songs in DGSS. But The Roller (AKA Instant Karma) is a joke. Beatles and Stones and that cliche rhythm guitar... "Bring the Light and that cliche piano...For Anyone with it's disney-movie-like melody... (WTF was that)jokes, all of them. They sound like music from an amateurish rock covers band. Honestly. Taking these songs out, that would be an alright album. Someone should eat breakfast in the morning before posting. What are you even going on about? The Roller and For Anyone are a couple of the highlights off a meh album filled with mid-tempo tunes. Bring the Light showed a willingness to try something a least a bit different and Beatles and Stones if nothing else is a tongue in cheek little rock song that should've been a b-side, but is hardly a low point on that album. ----------------------- To the OP.... It is hard to consider what we've heard as progression when the core songs underneath the stellar production are still C average. The Roller isn't a bad song, but it's a cover. Instant Karma is great. The Roller makes them sound like a tuesday night cover band. For Anyone? Come on, man... it sounds like the music theme from Shrek or something (actually the real theme from Shrek is better, but that's not the point). It's not a bad song either, but its melody is childish and just doesn't fit. It's the most embarrassing thing Liam has even sang, including pre-Oasis songs. Bring The Light indeed showed a willingness to change, but that didn't make it a good song. Again, tuesday night cover band level. DGSS sounds too generic overall. But hey, from what i've heard of BE, i'm really looking forward to it. I think this time they are getting it right. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 10:33:23 GMT -5
Someone should eat breakfast in the morning before posting. What are you even going on about? The Roller and For Anyone are a couple of the highlights off a meh album filled with mid-tempo tunes. Bring the Light showed a willingness to try something a least a bit different and Beatles and Stones if nothing else is a tongue in cheek little rock song that should've been a b-side, but is hardly a low point on that album. ----------------------- To the OP.... It is hard to consider what we've heard as progression when the core songs underneath the stellar production are still C average. The Roller isn't a bad song, but it's a cover. Instant Karma is great. The Roller makes them sound like a tuesday night cover band. For Anyone? Come on, man... it sounds like the music theme from Shrek or something (actually the real theme from Shrek is better, but that's not the point). It's not a bad song either, but its melody is childish and just doesn't fit. It's the most embarrassing thing Liam has even sang, including pre-Oasis songs. Bring The Light indeed showed a willingness to change, but that didn't make it a good song. Again, tuesday night cover band level. DGSS sounds too generic overall. But hey, from what i've heard of BE, i'm really looking forward to it. I think this time they are getting it right. Fair enough. Good response. |
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Post by Ash & Debris on May 10, 2013 10:40:22 GMT -5
I try but I really can't listen to any song from DGSS aside from the morning son, world outside my room, sons of the stage, in the bubble with a bullet and sometimes four letter word. It speaks volume when everything on the album beside the opening and closing tracks are downright unlistenable and cringe-worthy.
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Post by freddy838 on May 10, 2013 10:53:39 GMT -5
To be fair the warning signs were there with the last couple of Oasis singles. I don't think Falling Down or I'm Outta Time got in the top 10 and had hardly any radio play. I just think radio has moved on from the Gallaghers, and I include Noel in that as I barely heard his songs played on radio. It was why I found it a bit weird that Zane Lowe had first-play of the new Beady Eye stuff and there was so much kerfuffle over it. Radio 1 were never in a million years going to playlist it. They're better off just making the album they want to and people will find it if they want to find it. It won't go to number 1, I'm sure of that.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on May 10, 2013 11:48:35 GMT -5
Think Falling Down was #10 but i get your point. I'd put that more down to lack of b-sides myself though.
I think it's so simple for marketing an Oasis/Beady Eye/Noel Gallagher single
Radio play day, release the video. Release it on itunes, put out the CD/Vinyl.
Beady Eye got the most vinyl sales last year. Just look at the likes of Four Letter Word, 4,000 or something sales just from vinyls? Pretty obvious it can boost chart position and give them a bit more exposure.
They'll never fucking learn
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Post by jv on May 10, 2013 11:56:22 GMT -5
Noel is really good at writing radio-friendly stuff. Falling Down isn't great, but it's nice. Almost everything Noel wrote is at least "nice".
That said, they're lazy arses. Both Noel and Beady Eye (and Oasis?) could make a better album with, at the very least, a different/better production. Which is what Beady Eye seems to be doing now. I'm hoping BE will make Noel regret he ever left the band.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 12:21:04 GMT -5
BE will make Noel regret he ever left the band.  |
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Post by nedsatomicdustbin on May 10, 2013 12:48:46 GMT -5
It most certainly is progression.
Backward progression.
FACT.
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Post by Teotihuacan on May 10, 2013 12:56:39 GMT -5
^ Showing there's an appropriate Gallagher quote for every occasion, from 1994:
Liam: You´ve got to progress. But it doesn´t mean to say you´ve got to move forward.
Noel: Eh?
Liam: You can progress sideways. Or backwards. I´m right, though. Tell me I´m not!
Noel: Progression is going forwards. Going backwards is regression. Going sideways is just gression.
[http://noelgisgod.tumblr.com/post/33617519721/talking-about-if-bands-should-evolve-musically/]
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Post by thedon on May 10, 2013 19:38:16 GMT -5
After listening to Second Bite of The Apple The Roller sounds like a masterpiece. Seriously, try it.
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