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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 12:59:12 GMT -5
He was at his best on SOTSOG imo. He had a real maturity to his voice then without it going too far.
I think the deterioration in his throat has forced this nasal stuff. At the Olympics he looked and sounded terrified of his throat letting him down.
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Post by spaneli on May 5, 2013 12:59:54 GMT -5
Slightly off topic; does anyone else think they've deliberately written short simple vocals for him to easily sing them live? I think they're just shying away from longer songs since they tend to get criticized for ones that go on longer than a few minutes, I don't think we'll be getting a 10 minute AATW anthem anytime soon, Wigwam is probably the only exception, but maybe we'll get lucky and there will be a couple 7 minute wave your arms in the air moments on the album  I think you should reread. He didn't say shying away from longer song, but longer vowel sounds  |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2013 15:52:14 GMT -5
It's still nice to listen to but I don't think I would if it wasn't Liam. So nasally, light years apart from the pure, raw, throat originating voice from 1994-98
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Post by nedsatomicdustbin on May 5, 2013 15:57:10 GMT -5
He could take a leaf outbreak Bono's book. Bono's been on the road three times the period Liam has and sounds better now than ever. That's because he looked after himself and has always had the interest of his fans at heart.
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Post by wonderplan on May 5, 2013 16:15:25 GMT -5
I think they're just shying away from longer songs since they tend to get criticized for ones that go on longer than a few minutes, I don't think we'll be getting a 10 minute AATW anthem anytime soon, Wigwam is probably the only exception, but maybe we'll get lucky and there will be a couple 7 minute wave your arms in the air moments on the album I think you should reread. He didn't say shying away from longer song, but longer vowel sounds i read it correctly he said short simple vocals, that could mean short vowels like in your interpretation or shorter song structure. Liam has a history of forgetting entire verses and repeating the same verse so going to shorter songs would help him while performing live |
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Post by wonderplan on May 5, 2013 16:15:42 GMT -5
I think they're just shying away from longer songs since they tend to get criticized for ones that go on longer than a few minutes, I don't think we'll be getting a 10 minute AATW anthem anytime soon, Wigwam is probably the only exception, but maybe we'll get lucky and there will be a couple 7 minute wave your arms in the air moments on the album I think you should reread. He didn't say shying away from longer song, but longer vowel sounds i read it correctly he said short simple vocals, that could mean short vowels like in your interpretation or shorter song structure. Liam has a history of forgetting entire verses and repeating the same verse so going to shorter songs would help him while performing live |
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Post by bringbackthemdays on May 5, 2013 16:18:06 GMT -5
He sounded better on DGSS and the resultant tour, but there's a good reason for this. None of the tunes on that album were particularly demanding on Liam's voice. There are no big refrains a la "Live Forever" or elongated verses like "Slide Away." Liam struggled singing a lot of the more demanding Oasis songs and would often pull away from the mic, cutting notes short because he didn't have the breath or range to finish them. Beady Eye's music is much easier for him to sing and, as a result, he sounds much better.
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Post by Regi on May 5, 2013 16:19:44 GMT -5
One last thing: Lately he no longer stretchs the vowels, he just make a cobra move, away from the mic... I don't like that either. He simply doesn't have the same power in his voice any more to produce the rasping vocals. For me it is around about 2002, Heathen Chemistry tour, that he started to struggle a bit. He can still sing well, just differently. His voice has changed. It is what it is. |
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Post by nahuel89p on May 5, 2013 16:41:29 GMT -5
What fuck are some of you people on?....he's had a nasally vocal style & polarised opinion from day one but now some of you want him to get all Michael Buble on us?. His vocals are far from being technically brilliant but what he lacks in technical ability he makes up for in raw attitude & distinctiveness....the guy has never ducked singing live be it during good or bad times, something no other artist or band would do nowadays as everything is far to polished & perfect. And I distinctly remember every producer that has worked with him (sitek being the latest) saying how good a voice he has - style, attitude & annunciation. I honestly don't understand what you so called "fans" want?, all these negative comments directed at things he/they have done for years, It would appear you are not actually fans & are picking up on anything to bash one of the greatest British rock stars to have done it & continues to do it. In fact a lot of the greats can barely hold a tune but they have that "something" that separates them from the good - Dylan, Lennon, Jagger are 3 that spring to mind & Liam is righ up there with them. Perhaps we are such a big fans that we can criticize without feeling bad about it. I feel like that, even if Liam gets to sing like Stephen Hawking I'd still pay the ticket for the gig. No problems. But let's just don't get mad when someone points out the obvious: His voice is half the voice he used to have. Imagine if DM, WTSMG and BHN were recorded with his nowadays voice. Damn... it would be a pity. Just for the record, DGSS is one of my most played albums lately. |
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Post by MacaRonic on May 5, 2013 16:55:38 GMT -5
FFS the man's 40 and has been singing A LOT over the past 20 years not to mention the amount of drink/drugs/smoking he's been doing. I think he sounds brilliant considering.
Liam knows himself that he is not the singer he once was but credit where it's due when he was in his prime, for me, he was the greatest frontman/vocalist ever. That's one of the main reasons why I'm on this forum.
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Post by Underneath the sky on May 5, 2013 17:41:33 GMT -5
He was at his best on SOTSOG imo. He had a real maturity to his voice then without it going too far. I think the deterioration in his throat has forced this nasal stuff. At the Olympics he looked and sounded terrified of his throat letting him down. Yeah I think up to 2006 he was still singing like he used to when he was 21. That resulted in the hoarse Kermit voice in 2006. Since 2008 he's adapted his style so that he's not shouting but instead singing through his nose, which is an improvement at least. I still think he's a great vocalist personally. Even with the deterioration in his voice he can still carry any song. |
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Post by cloudburster on May 5, 2013 18:04:57 GMT -5
Anyone who sang Cast No Shadow or Rockin' Chair should not be getting abuse like this. War Veteran.
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Post by cloudburster on May 5, 2013 18:08:01 GMT -5
Though I don't think that's the biggest problem. It sounds to me like they just accepted the first take of the vocals instead of re-doing the bits that sounded unpleasant. Seeee you do give constructive criticism. That's more like it  |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on May 5, 2013 18:20:49 GMT -5
i think his voice gotten worse over the years, but he became a better singer.
on DGSS session there were really cool moments of his voice, which were quiet different (Wigwam high and sometimes long stretched, four letter word - aggressive, raspy, world outside my room - calm, melodic, something new i think)
his voice was clearly better during the first Oasis albums but i think he now is able to sing in more different directions and styles and he learned how to look after his voice.
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Post by cloudburster on May 5, 2013 18:35:38 GMT -5
i think his voice gotten worse over the years, but he became a better singer. on DGSS session there were really cool moments of his voice, which were quiet different (Wigwam high and sometimes long stretched, four letter word - aggressive, raspy, world outside my room - calm, melodic, something new i think) his voice was clearly better during the first Oasis albums but i think he now is able to sing in more different directions and styles and he learned how to look after his voice. Four Letter Word was his best vocal in the 21st century There's a lot of fantastic live versions as well. |
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