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Post by liamgallagher1992 on May 1, 2013 11:30:16 GMT -5
With any album Oasis/HFB or Beady Eye related?
Supersonic? Live Forever, Rock n Roll Star and Slide Away to name a few are better.
Some Might Say? A lot better songs on WTSMG for me
D'you Know What I mean? Stand by Me, Don't go Away etc are quite easily better
The only case I'd say for the first single being the best is Go Let It Out. Although I know a lot of people would rate Gas Panic above that
I'd say Stop Crying Your Heart out, Songbird and Little by Little are all better than The Hindu Times. Importance of being Idle and in fact most of DBTT is better than Lyla. Some might argue The Shock Of The Lightning is the best on DOYS but I much prefer Bag It Up and I'm outta time. Then we move on to HFB and the Death Of You and Me is probably one of the weakest songs he put out.
With Beady Eye, Bring The Light wasn't the first single bit the first thing the band wanted us to hear. It wasn't the best song by a long way but It was the biggest change on sound to Oasis. I think we have the same with SBOTA. For the record, I really like it. But I can see where the criticism comes, it certainly isn't flawless.
All I'm saying is, Oasis rarely put out a single just because it was the best material they had. And I certainly don't think Beady Eye are doing it any different. So of you don't like it, don't worry, if you do? Turn it up.
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Post by Bruno on May 1, 2013 11:36:31 GMT -5
The thing is the first single might not always have been the best song on the album but it was ALWAYS a strong song and Second Bit Of The Apple is far from being one.
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Post by leak4ever on May 1, 2013 11:38:05 GMT -5
With any album Oasis/HFB or Beady Eye related? Supersonic? Live Forever, Rock n Roll Star and Slide Away to name a few are better. Some Might Say? A lot better songs on WTSMG for me D'you Know What I mean? Stand by Me, Don't go Away etc are quite easily better The only case I'd say for the first single being the best is Go Let It Out. Although I know a lot of people would rate Gas Panic above that I'd say Stop Crying Your Heart out, Songbird and Little by Little are all better than The Hindu Times. Importance of being Idle and in fact most of DBTT is better than Lyla. Some might argue The Shock Of The Lightning is the best on DOYS but I much prefer Bag It Up and I'm outta time. Then we move on to HFB and the Death Of You and Me is probably one of the weakest songs he put out. With Beady Eye, Bring The Light wasn't the first single bit the first thing the band wanted us to hear. It wasn't the best song by a long way but It was the biggest change on sound to Oasis. I think we have the same with SBOTA. For the record, I really like it. But I can see where the criticism comes, it certainly isn't flawless. All I'm saying is, Oasis rarely put out a single just because it was the best material they had. And I certainly don't think Beady Eye are doing it any different. So of you don't like it, don't worry, if you do? Turn it up.  . |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 11:40:15 GMT -5
Bruno has a point on that .. But I do see what you mean , well put. For bdi sake I hope your right , I always want nothing but straight number 1 s. that's why I'm so hard on the solo stuff , hope your right .
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Post by Bellboy on May 1, 2013 11:45:43 GMT -5
For once I agree with Bruno, the lead single should be a strong catchy song, to build hype and attract old fan's & new towards a new album. Good thread though. The best 1st single for me is Some Might Say. A GREAT song from an even greater album. Lyla was also a great lead single - My 2nd choice as the DBTT era was a great comeback & album for Oasis. |
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Post by Bruno on May 1, 2013 11:48:23 GMT -5
For once I agree with BrunoI don't think we disagree that much, do we?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 11:57:51 GMT -5
Surely the best 'comeback' ever.
They've never been cooler.
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Post by manicsfan on May 1, 2013 12:07:51 GMT -5
A strong 1st single is required and Second Shite of The Apple is not it.
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Post by jordan71421 on May 1, 2013 12:10:02 GMT -5
A strong 1st single is required and Second Shite of The Apple is not it. I don't think it's required, they can do what they want |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 12:16:49 GMT -5
Hindu Times.
It doesn't matter anyway. Singles are totally irrelevant here because the fanbase is pretty set at this point. Second Bite of the Apple isn't very good, but I'm a fan of the band so I've ordered the album and a ticket.
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Post by Lennon2217 on May 1, 2013 12:18:28 GMT -5
Surely the best 'comeback' ever. They've never been cooler. This is probably the BEST song off Be Here Now. Totally Oasis. Totally full of attitude. I loved it in 1997 and I love it in 2013. Fuck yeah!  |
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on May 1, 2013 12:24:40 GMT -5
ahm No!
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Post by manicsfan on May 1, 2013 12:27:18 GMT -5
A strong 1st single is required and Second Shite of The Apple is not it. I don't think it's required, they can do what they want I guess. Release a steaming pile of shite just to be different. |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on May 1, 2013 12:33:28 GMT -5
Surely the best 'comeback' ever. They've never been cooler. Best comeback? At this point they had not fallen from glory. This just added to their success. Be Here Now is a great album. Its only issue are the ridiculously long songs and this makes listening to the album difficult...you always want to get to the next song! |
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Post by rebus on May 1, 2013 12:39:41 GMT -5
I disagree with the majority of the forum - I think Second Bite Of The Apple is a great song. Joint best song from Beady Eye along with Flick Of The Finger.
Have to wait and hear the rest of the album, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 12:46:54 GMT -5
I don't think it's required, they can do what they want I guess. Release a steaming pile of shite just to be different. Come on now, it's not THAT bad... Compared to all of the songs on DGSS it'd be one of the better ones. Miles better than all the singles off that album apart from the roller and better than Bring the Light |
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Post by gdforever on May 1, 2013 13:13:08 GMT -5
I think the best single should be the one that is released to be on the radio when the album drops. Usually the second or third.
Generally, latter day Oasis particularly, seem to have picked the most energetic rocking song as their first singles. To come back with a bang.
THT, Lyla, TSOTL.
I think generally they've been pretty strong but not the strongest on the album.
SBOTA isn't doing it for me and it seems that the fan base is quite split on it. Hope it does well for them though and that they have better songs coming. I don't think either of the songs are particularly good singles though but I hope I am wrong.
Worries me a bit that they say that the single could be any of the tracks on the album. It makes me think there are no standout tracks that'll expand their fan base. I want that for them...and anyone that doesn't think that Liam wants to be bigger than they were with DGSS is living in a dream world.
He may say "it's all about the music" but he is really vocal about how disappointed he was in the success of DGSS. An interviewer asked him if he'd work with Sitek again and be said it depended on how well the album did.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 13:14:20 GMT -5
They'd been away for a year and came back with a new single for a new album. So it's a comeback, no? |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 13:16:14 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong. But don't believe led zep ever had a single , not even stairway .... Yet it's the most played or was the most played rock song on rock radio for decades
Maybe today it matters i don't know , but if stairway came out today and zep still operated with no singles , something tells me it would still find its way to the airwaves ....maybe I'm wrong ....
Edit. And in 1980 all the zep songs from in through the outdoor made it to radio and singles were big then , that I know , yet all my love , in the evening , d'yermaker are all staples on radio. Never were singles. So if its good it should get played
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 13:17:44 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong. But don't believe led zep ever had a single , not even stairway .... Yet it's the most played or was the most played rock song on rock radio for decades Maybe today it matters i don't know , but if stairway came out today and zep still operated with no singles , something tells me it would still find its way to the airwaves ....maybe I'm wrong .... I think you're right. I recall hearing that in a documentary I watched recently. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 13:21:02 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong. But don't believe led zep ever had a single , not even stairway .... Yet it's the most played or was the most played rock song on rock radio for decades Maybe today it matters i don't know , but if stairway came out today and zep still operated with no singles , something tells me it would still find its way to the airwaves ....maybe I'm wrong .... I think you're right. I recall hearing that in a documentary I watched recently. I know , just didnt want to come across as a authority lord knows I'm a thick BASTERD.  |
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Post by yearzero on May 1, 2013 13:36:55 GMT -5
I agree with liamgallagher1992, Bruno, and Bellboy. A strong single or singles are important to generate interest outside the Oasis/BE fanbase. A good single can attract a lot of casual fans or people who have no clue about BE. And people who disliked BE might sit up and take notice. I would have preferred FOTF over SBOTA as the first single for this reason. Even though the Internet and other forms of music-sharing have changed the way that radioplay and the singles format will influence music buyers and concert goers, I think that singles are still a major promotional tool that labels use for their bands. TV commercials, talk show appearances/performances, general radio play etc. still do the work of getting music out to the bigger "public." And for better or worse, it's the official singles that get this kind of attention. |
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Post by jaq515 on May 1, 2013 14:02:20 GMT -5
I agree with liamgallagher1992, Bruno, and Bellboy. A strong single or singles are important to generate interest outside the Oasis/BE fanbase. A good single can attract a lot of casual fans or people who have no clue about BE. And people who disliked BE might sit up and take notice. I would have preferred FOTF over SBOTA as the first single for this reason. Even though the Internet and other forms of music-sharing have changed the way that radioplay and the singles format will influence music buyers and concert goers, I think that singles are still a major promotional tool that labels use for their bands. TV commercials, talk show appearances/performances, general radio play etc. still do the work of getting music out to the bigger "public." And for better or worse, it's the official singles that get this kind of attention. This is exactly right but to the non beady eye fans FOTF is the same as SBOTA so official unofficial etc doesn't matter, both got played/ hyped can be bought on iTunes etc. I 100% agree about radio / tv tho. Even tho we're heading into a 100% digital era its Still a much bigger influence than the web at this point in time . Radio/tv you got a near captive audience where Internet you are 100% in control so you won't choice to listen / watch stuff you don't want too. Whether you consciously know or not the radio (/tv) is always in the background influencing / introducing people to new music |
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Post by yearzero on May 1, 2013 14:12:13 GMT -5
I agree with liamgallagher1992, Bruno, and Bellboy. A strong single or singles are important to generate interest outside the Oasis/BE fanbase. A good single can attract a lot of casual fans or people who have no clue about BE. And people who disliked BE might sit up and take notice. I would have preferred FOTF over SBOTA as the first single for this reason. Even though the Internet and other forms of music-sharing have changed the way that radioplay and the singles format will influence music buyers and concert goers, I think that singles are still a major promotional tool that labels use for their bands. TV commercials, talk show appearances/performances, general radio play etc. still do the work of getting music out to the bigger "public." And for better or worse, it's the official singles that get this kind of attention. This is exactly right but to the non beady eye fans FOTF is the same as SBOTA so official unofficial etc doesn't matter, both got played/ hyped can be bought on iTunes etc. I 100% agree about radio / tv tho. Even tho we're heading into a 100% digital era its Still a much bigger influence than the web at this point in time . Radio/tv you got a near captive audience where Internet you are 100% in control so you won't choice to listen / watch stuff you don't want too. Whether you consciously know or not the radio (/tv) is always in the background influencing / introducing people to new music Good point about FOTF and SBOTA, they've both been played and marketed. But I guess since SBOTA is getting the official music video treatment, it will eventually get more widespread attention. And definitely, the radio and TV are still essential. Many people I know don't go on the Internet to actively listen, search, and download music, but they turn on the radio in their cars, flip through music TV channels, watch talk show performances, etc. So the stuff that gets radio and TV time will spread beyond active music fans. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 14:23:51 GMT -5
I agree with liamgallagher1992, Bruno, and Bellboy. A strong single or singles are important to generate interest outside the Oasis/BE fanbase. A good single can attract a lot of casual fans or people who have no clue about BE. And people who disliked BE might sit up and take notice. I would have preferred FOTF over SBOTA as the first single for this reason. Even though the Internet and other forms of music-sharing have changed the way that radioplay and the singles format will influence music buyers and concert goers, I think that singles are still a major promotional tool that labels use for their bands. TV commercials, talk show appearances/performances, general radio play etc. still do the work of getting music out to the bigger "public." And for better or worse, it's the official singles that get this kind of attention. Whether you consciously know or not the radio (/tv) is always in the background influencing / introducing people to new music That's a great point there ^. There have been more than a few shows whose theme songs were played so much by constant airing it turned me on to the artist just out of curiosity The sopranos, friends. Jump off at me as soon as I hear I relate to the show and know the artists who sung them . .... And for oldtimers the theme music to " Dallas ". I hear that opening and immeadiatlly look for JR ( rip Larry). To appear on the screen whether used on radio commercials or TV adverts . |
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