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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 20, 2013 13:04:58 GMT -5
Rick Rubin did an awesome job on Tom Petty's Wildflowers... That was over 23 years ago right now. Even producers have a "prime" and he's long since passes it IMO.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 20, 2013 13:09:46 GMT -5
I really wanted to see how those sessions with the AA went. That had me really excited, more so than HFB announcement. I want to see Noel be a little different once in his life. This was a great chance. Maybe we will still hear it one day. Right now it's his Apocalypse Now. He said he was still "kickig it around" All hope is not lost yet. Exactly! francis ford coppola kicked around with Apocalypse Now for 3-4 years before finally being released.....and loved.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 13:37:12 GMT -5
Ethan Johns would be a great producer for Noel.
In terms of Noel's ongoing mind game, however, I think Albarn would be ideal.
I'm glad Noel never took Gem with him. #deadweight
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 20, 2013 13:51:15 GMT -5
He said he was still "kickig it around" All hope is not lost yet. Exactly! francis ford coppola kicked around with Apocalypse Now for 3-4 years before finally being released.....and loved. Even longer. Milius wrote the sceenplay in 1969 although it changed quite a bit over the years before its release.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 15:11:01 GMT -5
I honestly think he doesn't need much help, just some mixing. This. He's not a bad producer, just poor at mixing. Mixing broke HC, more so than producing.The production is anemic, the mixing is dead on arrival. Mark "Spike" Stent mixed HC. I don't think he was given much to work with to be honest, the performances are lifeless.
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Post by jasroy on Apr 20, 2013 15:13:44 GMT -5
Ethan Johns or Dan Auerbach from the Black Keys
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Post by NYR on Apr 20, 2013 15:52:41 GMT -5
Rick Rubin did an awesome job on Tom Petty's Wildflowers... and the beastie boys' "licensed to ill," run dmc's "raising hell," public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us bad," red hot chili peppers' "blood sugar sex magik" and "californication," all of johnny cash's american recordings, jay-z's "the black album" and adele's "21". i think noel needs to be pushed on his next album. he's lazy and admits to it. having a producer that forces him to get out of his comfort zone would be great for him. rubin could be that guy, though i doubt he's got the right production style for noel's music. i think working with butch vig or brendan o'brien would be great for noel.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 20, 2013 15:58:57 GMT -5
Ha! Nicole Godrich as a polling choice. Seriously though, Nigel would make an excellent producer for Noel. I've always wanted them to link up and do an acoustic style album like Beck's Sea Change. Think about it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2013 16:44:14 GMT -5
Rick Rubin did an awesome job on Tom Petty's Wildflowers... and the beastie boys' "licensed to ill," run dmc's "raising hell," public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us bad," red hot chili peppers' "blood sugar sex magik" and "californication," all of johnny cash's american recordings, jay-z's "the black album" and adele's "21". i think noel needs to be pushed on his next album. he's lazy and admits to it. having a producer that forces him to get out of his comfort zone would be great for him. rubin could be that guy, though i doubt he's got the right production style for noel's music.i think working with butch vig or brendan o'brien would be great for noel. He's done everything from rap to heavy metal to pop to country. He'd strip back Noel's sound and offer some great arrangement advise. No guarantees it would work but I'd love to hear the results. I think If I Had A Gun would have been on a whole other plane with Rubin in charge. Think Johnny Cash Hurt=esque arrangement.
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 20, 2013 22:46:56 GMT -5
How about John Leckie? He did the Stone Roses' first album and Verve's Storm in Heaven. That might be an interesting choice.
As for Lillywhite, he is a great producer but his approach is not what Noel needs (IMO) for this next record. As it's been stated, he needs someone to push him out of his comfort zone as he admits he's lazy.
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Post by keazu on Apr 22, 2013 18:16:16 GMT -5
Count me as another vote for Danger Mouse. I really liked what he did with James Mercer with Broken Bells, and I'd love to hear an album with him by Noel. Noel probably wouldn't like it though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 19:44:03 GMT -5
hmm Jeff Lynne
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Post by korky on Apr 22, 2013 20:38:03 GMT -5
I love how everyone's a fucking expert all of a sudden. Who cares, the quality of the songs translate no matter who's producing
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 22, 2013 21:29:17 GMT -5
I love how everyone's a fucking expert all of a sudden. Who cares, the quality of the songs translate no matter who's producing Somebody has to be around to say to Noel, "Leave off the fake choirs pal."
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Post by NYR on Apr 22, 2013 21:47:29 GMT -5
and the beastie boys' "licensed to ill," run dmc's "raising hell," public enemy's "it takes a nation of millions to hold us bad," red hot chili peppers' "blood sugar sex magik" and "californication," all of johnny cash's american recordings, jay-z's "the black album" and adele's "21". i think noel needs to be pushed on his next album. he's lazy and admits to it. having a producer that forces him to get out of his comfort zone would be great for him. rubin could be that guy, though i doubt he's got the right production style for noel's music.i think working with butch vig or brendan o'brien would be great for noel. He's done everything from rap to heavy metal to pop to country. He'd strip back Noel's sound and offer some great arrangement advise. No guarantees it would work but I'd love to hear the results. I think If I Had A Gun would have been on a whole other plane with Rubin in charge. Think Johnny Cash Hurt=esque arrangement. rubin tries to make his rock stuff as natural as possible. not many overdubs, just the musicians, instruments and the songs. while i love that style, i feel that noel works best with guys who aren't afraid to go a little more "out there."
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 22, 2013 21:51:04 GMT -5
He's done everything from rap to heavy metal to pop to country. He'd strip back Noel's sound and offer some great arrangement advise. No guarantees it would work but I'd love to hear the results. I think If I Had A Gun would have been on a whole other plane with Rubin in charge. Think Johnny Cash Hurt=esque arrangement. rubin tries to make his rock stuff as natural as possible. not many overdubs, just the musicians, instruments and the songs. while i love that style, i feel that noel works best with guys who aren't afraid to go a little more "out there." Noel should just work with James Murphy of LCD Soundsystem fame. He is producing the new Arcade Fire album which I'm sure is going to kick some major ass.
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Post by Manualex on Apr 22, 2013 23:13:25 GMT -5
rubin tries to make his rock stuff as natural as possible. not many overdubs, just the musicians, instruments and the songs. while i love that style, i feel that noel works best with guys who aren't afraid to go a little more "out there." Noel should just work with James Murphy of LCD Soundsystem fame. He is producing the new Arcade Fire album which I'm sure is going to kick some major ass. He produced one song on the new YYY! album as well.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Apr 23, 2013 16:45:18 GMT -5
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Apr 24, 2013 1:08:41 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that Noel should go with someone a little less method. What I mean is, is that when you hear a Lillywhite record, you know its a Lillywhite record. I'd rather see him go with someone with a little more flexibility. Going from Sardy to Lillywhite is not a big difference in terms of the way they approach production.
Rubin is a good shout. That would be a really interesting mesh of styles. Rubin's got a very laid back approach and he's got the ability to adapt to an artist. That's why Rubin's catalogue is so diverse.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Apr 24, 2013 3:52:06 GMT -5
i don't know about Rick Rubin. there are many stories, that this guy is just showing up at the end of the day saying something like "more bass" and leaves. if thats true, noel would ending up working on his own and nothing would change. i would recommend Josh Homme, as a fan of the queens of the stone age and his production on Arctic Monkey's Humbug, cause he really changed their sound and style.
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Post by thedon on Apr 24, 2013 5:22:18 GMT -5
Four Tet.
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Post by manicsfan on Apr 24, 2013 7:52:25 GMT -5
Jack Frost.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Apr 24, 2013 7:55:39 GMT -5
I really like how Damon Albarn is running away with this poll. He is a great idea and would be a fascinating selection if it ever came true. The guy knows his shit. I think something wonderful would be cooked up between Noel and Damon. Wishful thinking probably but a nice dream all the same.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 10:58:08 GMT -5
but I don't know which albums has produced Albarn.
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Post by matt on Apr 24, 2013 15:12:55 GMT -5
but I don't know which albums has produced Albarn. True, he seems like a guy who is able to get all his ideas out on to the record, but he usually needs someone like Danger Mouse or someone to make that vision become reality. To be honest, I think the only tunes he's produced are the two new Blur tracks, Under The Westway and The Puritan. But likewise with everyone, Noel working with Damon Albarn is definitely something which I would love to happen. Damon's out of this world musical ideas mixed with Noel's incredible melodic ability? The whole concept is the most appetising dream of all time! Forget Amorphous Androgynous, get on it with Damon!
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