I agree but in a way it's cool that all of them b-sides are so good.

I can't think of any band that has that many quality b-sides.

(Puts away jelly) So, this isn't actually about F**king Noel ?

Right on the fucking money. I hated that he officially announced what happened with the AA album collab. Just pure magic down the drain. Dammit Noel.. 

For me, Noel lost the plot after Morning Glory. I think he got lazy and also lost some of his songwriting magic. He didn't help matters by putting so much filler on Be Here Now instead of trying to write some better material.

After that he picked the wrong songs for albums and, generally (Heathen Chemistry being an obvious exception), chose the wrong songs as singles. For instance, no Let's All Make Believe on Standing on the Shoulder of Giants and he releases Who Feels Love as a single.

I can see why he wanted Liam, Andy and Gem to contribute songs in order to make the band feel democratic and keep them engaged (and also because he was struggling with his writing) but they didn't really come up with the goods.

I think he fell into the trap of thinking the public wanted it to be 'business as usual' in terms of Oasis - the records, the producers, the tours, the setlists - and didn't take enough chances. That's the biggest disappointment for me post-Morning Glory, up to which he'd pretty much done everything right.

With tracklistings people will never agree, i am surprised when quality b sides over the years have been left off albums but then again its helped create that 'oasis make great b sides' view people had.

I'm gutted that when we heard those first soundcheck recordings of everybodys on the run and if i had a gun, Noel was in Japan wasnt he touring with Oasis for dig out your soul. So its like he had those songs 'stored' ready for when he went solo.

I would have loved those two songs to have been played as 'Oasis' and Liam to be singing them

Noel also often said in interviews he had to do the usual 'stadium rock' type anthems for Oasis. That didnt have to be the case, they could have changed (Eg like Beady Eye has 'slightly' changed from the first to the second album), wish they had been more adventerous near the end.

Still love listening to some of the old Oasis albums, still think theres a lot of good tunes on Dig out your soul

I don't think Noel lost the plot, per se. Rather, he lost confidence in himself along with Oasis going through turbulent times.

I actually really like Be Here Now - fuck the critics, it summed up Oasis perfectly at the time, and the title of the album exemplifies that. Yeah, it's bloated, but that's why I like it. The trilogy of DM-WTSMG-BHN and all the b-sides associated with those albums, and TM are Oasis at their peak, the best 3 albums by far.

With SOTSOG (2000) and HC (2002), Noel was getting off of drugs, Liam was still on drugs, there were divorces, and Guigsy and Bonehead leaving the band.

I love how SOTSOG is dark with songs like Gas Panic, WDIAGW, and SMC - they once again summed up Oasis at the time. Noel is at his best when he's writing with an influence of his personal life (that's what made DM so good and special). He cocked up the tracklisting for some odd reason, but the songs he left off like LAMB indicate quite clearly he didn't lose the plot with songwriting.

Heathen Chemistry is a shitshow of an album. This is the only album where Noel went lazy, I think he was trying to be way too generic and it shows. The singles are fantastic, though. But once again he cocked up the tracklisting and once again the songs he left off like SIOL indicate once again that clearly he didn't lose the plot with songwriting.

Don't Believe the Truth is where he finally regained confidence - I love MF, TIOBI, and POTQ (which is very underrated, mind), and of course the typical Oasis single, Lyla.

Dig Out Your Soul continues the trend of fantastic songwriting by Noel. The album was let down by LAG and Noel being a fucking moron for using a fight with Liam (over Liam getting married or summat) as an excuse to leave off the likes of Come On Outside, Record Machine, and Stop the Clocks - 3 songs written by Noel, all are pretty solid, with the proper version of RM with guitar laden solos being what would have been on the album - showcases once again Noel didn't lose the plot with songwriting.

NGHFB is brilliant. No complaints at all with the songwriting - the production sucked with the plodding drumming, though. I just wish Freaky Teeth (how it's performed live) was on it. But this songwriting is up there with his WTSMG work - phenomenal.

Noel never lost his songwriting ability - he just cocked up tracklistings on SOTSOG, HC, and DOYS. I would love to hear a proper explanation of why.

But look at it this way - us hardcore fans are able to find the hidden gems. While those gems would have gained Oasis an ever-lasting critical acclaim if they were on albums, I do somewhat prefer finding them on my own by being an active member of this forum and an ardent Oasis fan - it's kind of like a reward.

But no, Noel had the songs, showing he still always possessed the quality of being a good songwriter, but he chose his few bad songs to put on the albums instead, for god knows why.

I hate Noel for his tracklisting decisions, for not saving all the Masterplan stuff for future albums and for his boring, disappointing and awfully produced debut (even Record Machine and Stop the Clocks are worst than the demos...).


SOTSOG (I love even Little James) >> DOYS (fuckin' brilliant 5 first songs) >> DBTT (overrated. some good songs) = HFB (most disappointing album of my life. 4 out of the 5 good songs we already knew years before the release) >> HC

And... BE (Japanese version is amazing) > DGSS >>> HFB

How can I say "fuck you" at a people who's written Definitely maybe and (What's the story?)Morning glory?

Oh yeah,and SOTSOG,but those two are classics

He should've put Morning Glory's tracklisting as..

1. Hello
2. Roll With It
3. Wonderwall
4. The Masterplan
5. Morning Glory
6. Rockin' Chair
7. Some Might Say
8. Cast No Shadow
9. She's Electric
10. Acquiesce
11. Don't Look Back In Anger
12. Champagne Supernova

Then quit

Only joking though