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Post by thefitnesskid1 on Apr 17, 2013 22:25:02 GMT -5
What in your opinion has Noel done pertaining to his decisions in any of his musical ventures has pissed you off?
Me personally; The purposefully withdrawn tracks from Dig Out Your Soul and Standing on the Shoulder of Giants. (all though as is both very enjoyable albums :3)
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Post by Teal on Apr 17, 2013 23:51:19 GMT -5
What in your opinion has Noel done pertaining to his decisions in any of his musical ventures has pissed you off? that one where he quit oasis |
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 18, 2013 1:54:41 GMT -5
Making the worst Oasis album ever called Dig Out Your Soul their last studio album.
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Post by J-200 on Apr 18, 2013 2:29:08 GMT -5
The quota system. : Gem 1-2, Andy 1-2, Liam 2-3 and Noel 6-7. If all the great ones for an album had been Noel songs, he should have chosen all. If Noel 7 songs and Andy 3 songs had been great for an album, he should have chosen like that. P.S. I really like DOYS until track 7.  |
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Post by Bruno on Apr 18, 2013 3:37:05 GMT -5
Making the worst Oasis album ever called Dig Out Your Soul their last studio album. I have to disagree about Dig Out Your Soul. Its become one of my favourite albums. The second half is a bit weak no doubt but a lot of good tunes on there. But each to their own I guess. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 18, 2013 3:48:29 GMT -5
Letting the others write songs.
Probably should have gone solo after Giants anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 3:55:25 GMT -5
Making the worst Oasis album ever called Dig Out Your Soul their last studio album. Ironic Mimi. I thought the same thing after the split Dig out your soul ? It's so ironic considering that the first thing I thought after playing iit 20 times over and over was where is the soul ? The only oasis album that left me cold ... I re listened when I first got back for Lennon2217 and yea a couple of real good tunes. But still if not there worst effort certainly there least soulless to my ear ...too each his own indeed Bruno that's what makes rock and roll we all could be huge fans yet NOT hear the same thing and have two entirely different views  Had to edit too early , lol |
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Post by underneaththesky on Apr 18, 2013 8:41:27 GMT -5
DOYS is great. Oasis back on form. raw. first 7 songs are great. then it gets a bit meh.
so come oooon, shake yer ragdol baby, before you change your miiiiind
as menacing as Oasis ever been.
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Post by frjdoasis on Apr 18, 2013 8:46:04 GMT -5
What in your opinion has Noel done pertaining to his decisions in any of his musical ventures has pissed you off? that one where he quit oasis THIS They could have split in a more epic way than over a fruit dispute |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 18, 2013 8:48:03 GMT -5
Making the worst Oasis album ever called Dig Out Your Soul their last studio album. I have to disagree about Dig Out Your Soul. Its become one of my favourite albums. The second half is a bit weak no doubt but a lot of good tunes on there. But each to their own I guess. Agreed |
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Post by Let It🩸 on Apr 18, 2013 8:59:23 GMT -5
Noel's a real motherfucker!
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 8:59:24 GMT -5
I have to disagree about Dig Out Your Soul. Its become one of my favourite albums. The second half is a bit weak no doubt but a lot of good tunes on there. But each to their own I guess. Agreed That's what is so cool about rock and roll jordan71421I respect you and Bruno opinion. A great deal. . Biput totally agree with Mimi. After DBTT. I was so pumped up , only TO me and my ear. Be so let down by a album. ...it was the only time I ever was disappointed in them because I expected so much But you guys think its a great lp. That's what makes rock so personal. And intricate. We all love the band but don't all hear certain things the same. ..me I think it was more expectations after DBTT. And I was so let down ...but that's just me ..I'm glad there are cats like u and Bruno who Iked it By the way i pmed heebeegebe he's a good guy told him no hijack was intended |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 9:06:36 GMT -5
Should have walked away when Guigs and Bonehead left. Once you add others with aspirations of writing tunes, then the overall quality went downhill big time. Not to mention the whole vibe of the band changed forever and not for the better in my opinion.
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Post by Tapir on Apr 18, 2013 9:28:21 GMT -5
He should've put Lets All Make Believe on SOTSOG instead of Little James and Stay Young on Be Here Now instead of Fade In Out, thats all i wouldve done different i guess
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Post by thetruth on Apr 18, 2013 9:30:15 GMT -5
Should have walked away when Guigs and Bonehead left. Once you add others with aspirations of writing tunes, then the overall quality went downhill big time. Not to mention the whole vibe of the band changed forever and not for the better in my opinion. It's not getting Andy and Gem in the band or let Liam write a few tunes that create atricious Noel's tunes on HC. Let's not rewrite history once again. Noel was happy to let the others write songs at the time because he had very little inspiration at the time, look at sotsog, look at hc, except for a few brillant tunes like gas panic, it's all bad. |
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Post by Tapir on Apr 18, 2013 9:33:19 GMT -5
Should have walked away when Guigs and Bonehead left. Once you add others with aspirations of writing tunes, then the overall quality went downhill big time. Not to mention the whole vibe of the band changed forever and not for the better in my opinion. It's not getting Andy and Gem in the band or let Liam write a few tunes that create atricious Noel's tunes on HC. Let's not rewrite history once again. Noel was happy to let the others write songs at the time because he had very little inspiration at the time, lokk at sotsog, lokk at hc, except for a few brillant tunes like gas panic, it's all bad. I actually think HC equals DBTT, its just a bit more acoustic love song kind of album, which i like, and the first three songs on HC are in my opinion better then anything on DBTT |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 10:29:09 GMT -5
Should have walked away when Guigs and Bonehead left. Once you add others with aspirations of writing tunes, then the overall quality went downhill big time. Not to mention the whole vibe of the band changed forever and not for the better in my opinion. It's not getting Andy and Gem in the band or let Liam write a few tunes that create atricious Noel's tunes on HC. Let's not rewrite history once again. Noel was happy to let the others write songs at the time because he had very little inspiration at the time, look at sotsog, look at hc, except for a few brillant tunes like gas panic, it's all bad. Noel's output during the SOTSOG and HC years might have been less than great, but Liam/Gem/Andy were writing absolute shit and continue to do so for much of their output in recent years. It's not slight to LAG, they just didn't get the great songwriting gene. Not everyone can write Definitely Maybe, and follow it up with Morning Glory, and then in a debut release over a decade later release an album as quality as HGHFB. My issue falls mostly with the vibe of the band post 2000. Oasis built their careers on being the common mans band, a group of lads having a good time. When Gem and Andy entered the scene it all changed to what many people view as kind of a "holier than thou" persona. It was never the same after that time . . . and the music also suffered as a result. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 18, 2013 10:33:47 GMT -5
I really like DOYS,first 7 track are class
it's better than HC and DBTT
There are a lot of things that Noel could have done,but you know,they were,are and will be Oasis for all their mistakes and all the right things that they've done,don't think at Andy,Gem or Liam,at the split,at the songs that Noel hasn't put on an album,if The masterplan is a b-side we can't do anything,just enjoy it,if they aren't together now is because that's what had to happen,we can hope that they'll reunite some day and enjoy BE and HFB,if the others have written some
songs enjoy them,don't think about anything that they could have done,just enjoy what we have,Oasis will live forever
fuck,I seem fucking wise in these days
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Post by KRRRRRRR on Apr 18, 2013 12:24:03 GMT -5
The dark period: Heathen Chemistry
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Post by yearzero on Apr 18, 2013 12:43:02 GMT -5
I really like DOYS,first 7 track are class it's better than HC and DBTT There are a lot of things that Noel could have done,but you know,they were,are and will be Oasis for all their mistakes and all the right things that they've done,don't think at Andy,Gem or Liam,at the split,at the songs that Noel hasn't put on an album,if The masterplan is a b-side we can't do anything,just enjoy it,if they aren't together now is because that's what had to happen,we can hope that they'll reunite some day and enjoy BE and HFB,if the others have written some songs enjoy them,don't think about anything that they could have done,just enjoy what we have,Oasis will live forever fuck,I seem fucking wise in these days Pretty much agree with everything you said here I like these debates though, because the world is a boring place if we all agree. I really like DOYS. Bag It Up is a fantastic opener, and I still can't believe it hasn't been played live?? (or am I mistaken?) And I'm a fan of SOTSOG. HC and DBTT had some good songs, but I thought the albums were uneven in quality. And yeah, The Masterplan--a B-side album that should have been a regular album! But like defmaybe00 said, things happen. We might never have gotten Oasis at all. But we did, and now we can all be here talking about the band and the musical legacy. The music will live forever. |
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Post by defmaybe00 on Apr 18, 2013 12:58:23 GMT -5
I'm agree with you about the albums,really like SOTOSG and DOYS not HC (a part for LBL,SCYHO,The hindu times and two b-sides SIOL and Idler's dream) and not DBTT (I love TIOBI and really like Turn up the sun,POTQ,Mucky fingers,but the others...) I know that if we're all agree the world become a boring place,there are some things that I haven't could done and that Noel has done,but you know,I can't say fuck Noel and I can't criticize Noel for something that he's done cos He can have his reasons,because he can sees the things in a different way and because what's happened is happened,just enjoy what we have,don't think what could have been or could have happened,Don't look back in anger |
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Post by carlober on Apr 18, 2013 13:16:16 GMT -5
Little James on SOTSOG. Awful tune on an extremely underrated album.
Still, it might not be as bad as Ain't got Nothin'...
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Post by yearzero on Apr 18, 2013 13:24:40 GMT -5
I'm agree with you about the albums,really like SOTOSG and DOYS not HC (a part for LBL,SCYHO,The hindu times and two b-sides SIOL and Idler's dream) and not DBTT (I love TIOBI and really like Turn up the sun,POTQ,Mucky fingers,but the others...) I know that if we're all agree the world become a boring place,there are some things that I haven't could done and that Noel has done,but you know,I can't say fuck Noel and I can't criticize Noel for something that he's done cos He can have his reasons,because he can sees the things in a different way and because what's happened is happened,just enjoy what we have,don't think what could have been or could have happened,Don't look back in anger Same I don't like to say fuck Noel or fuck Liam or fuck this or that. As you said, the past is the past. Whatever decisions were made, were made for a reason. It's easy for us to judge in hindsight what should have been better, what could have been done, when none of us were in the band and really knew what was going on. Of course, we'll still discuss these things--we're all fans and it's natural to speculate and debate. But I also like to stay positive and just enjoy the music. Don't look back in anger, truly Constructive criticism and debate is healthy. But petty disagreements, unnecessary venom, etc. just bring the board down (this is not an attack on any one person here by the way, just a general observation). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2013 13:39:03 GMT -5
He's made some big, big mistakes with regards to track listing but he's also written some of my favourite ever songs and whether they were on an album or just a b-side they're still there for me to listen to |
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Post by underneaththesky on Apr 18, 2013 13:48:52 GMT -5
just listened back to DOYS. Soldier On is mega. who said something about the lack of soul on this album? oh yeah.. Kalas.. haha just joking mate.
Aint Got Nothing is a blast. in yer face.
could do without Nature Of Reality though. put Record Machine at #5 and you've got a classic album there (classic for 2009 anyway)
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