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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:27:05 GMT -5
i think a band called the Pietasters.......like a ska/punk band. God bless. Hope u got hammered  . And they bought ! |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 17, 2013 17:29:18 GMT -5
i think a band called the Pietasters.......like a ska/punk band. God bless. Hope u got hammered . And they bought ! fuck yeah! drinking Jack and coke's.  fucking. shitfaced. fuck yeah! |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 17, 2013 17:30:40 GMT -5
He seems bitter... Apparently Liam dissed him in an interview? Anyone know what he said about the Lillywhite sessions? ---- As for Killers battle born.... I LOVE the killers but that album is awful; it's production is also atrocious. There's the song "Be still" which is great.... But only it's special edition acoustic version... The full on Lillywhite version is awful compared to the striped version. "The last record, the producer weren’t right, he bailed, Gem ended up mixing it and it turned out great for what it was. But we needed a great producer.” It's not extremely professional to tweet what he did. But he was professional for 2 years and bigged up BDI every chance he got. Nothing negative about them or DGSS. And that didn't stop them from insulting him professionally first chance they got and blaming him for their less than stellar album. |
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Post by frjdoasis on Apr 17, 2013 17:34:18 GMT -5
Why he bothers answering all the replies he got is beyond me. This tweet was absolutely avoidable, it's just material for his detractors
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:34:20 GMT -5
He seems bitter... Apparently Liam dissed him in an interview? Anyone know what he said about the Lillywhite sessions? ---- As for Killers battle born.... I LOVE the killers but that album is awful; it's production is also atrocious. There's the song "Be still" which is great.... But only it's special edition acoustic version... The full on Lillywhite version is awful compared to the striped version. "The last record, the producer weren’t right, he bailed, Gem ended up mixing it and it turned out great for what it was. But we needed a great producer.” It's not extremely professional to tweet what he did. But he was professional for 2 years and bigged up BDI every chance he got. Nothing negative about them or DGSS. And that didn't stop them from insulting him professionally first chance they got and blaming him for their less than stellar album. So gd. What is your view ?? Do you think as I do if the tunes are sub par no amount of window dressing will make up for it ( I know I will hear thru it ) ? Or are you buying into whatever the guys name that's producing it ( not being funny I have no use for over thinking producers in rock and roll ) is gonna magically make tunes rock and be a success ?? |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 17, 2013 17:41:16 GMT -5
The Clash's songs definitely go somewhere.............top 10 band ever. fuck yeah! Ya think  . One of 5 best concerts I ever saw at the old felt forum ( now called paramount theatre ) in MSG. ,.. Like 81 or 82. Man they freakin tore it up " London's burnin with boredom now !!!! ". They tore the roof off with that tune man.  you got me in the mood for the Clash...... i happened upon this mix on youtube, have you heard it? it definitely goes somewhere..... fuck yeah! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:42:18 GMT -5
Ya think . One of 5 best concerts I ever saw at the old felt forum ( now called paramount theatre ) in MSG. ,.. Like 81 or 82. Man they freakin tore it up " London's burnin with boredom now !!!! ". They tore the roof off with that tune man. you got me in the mood for the Clash...... i happened upon this mix on youtube, have you heard it? it definitely goes somewhere..... fuck yeah! Fuck yea How bout some clash city rocker |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:43:36 GMT -5
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 17, 2013 17:44:33 GMT -5
you got me in the mood for the Clash...... i happened upon this mix on youtube, have you heard it? it definitely goes somewhere..... fuck yeah! Fuck yea How bout some clash city rocker it really makes me wanna freaky deaky! go ahead and move to it if you need to...... fuck yeah! |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 17, 2013 17:45:00 GMT -5
"The last record, the producer weren’t right, he bailed, Gem ended up mixing it and it turned out great for what it was. But we needed a great producer.” It's not extremely professional to tweet what he did. But he was professional for 2 years and bigged up BDI every chance he got. Nothing negative about them or DGSS. And that didn't stop them from insulting him professionally first chance they got and blaming him for their less than stellar album. So gd. What is your view ?? Do you think as I do if the tunes are sub par no amount of window dressing will make up for it ( I know I will hear thru it ) ? Or are you buying into whatever the guys name that's producing it ( not being funny I have no use for over thinking producers in rock and roll ) is gonna magically make tunes rock and be a success ?? tbh I don't know what everyone is talking about complaining about Lillywhites production skills. I think he is good producer. The thing that I was critical of with him and DGSS was that I thought that it was his place to tell them when a song wasn't any good. Now it turns out that he did tell them that and they ignored him to their own detriment. Now I think he did the very best that he could have possibly done with what they were willing to give him. Obviously they were too concerned with getting something out quickly before Noel to listen to the constructive criticism of their producer. He can't be blamed for the bullheadedness of the band. The entire board was complementary about the sound of the album when it came out. It's only now that DGSS flopped that they are looking to blame it on bad production IMO I think good production makes it make a better first impression but the sheen of it wears off pretty quickly and then it's the song quality that matters. No amount of great production could make the songs on DGSS truly great. If Sitek makes a better album with them he will probably have had better material to work with. As you say eventually you hear through the tricks which is why I think truly great song grow on you. |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 17, 2013 17:47:44 GMT -5
Why he bothers answering all the replies he got is beyond me. This tweet was absolutely avoidable, it's just material for his detractors I daresay the answer to that is he is probably pissed off with BDI's betrayl after he supported them 2 years ago despite their difference in opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:48:16 GMT -5
So gd. What is your view ?? Do you think as I do if the tunes are sub par no amount of window dressing will make up for it ( I know I will hear thru it ) ? Or are you buying into whatever the guys name that's producing it ( not being funny I have no use for over thinking producers in rock and roll ) is gonna magically make tunes rock and be a success ?? tbh I don't know what everyone is talking about complaining about Lillywhites production skills. I think he is good producer. The thing that I was critical of with him and DGSS was that I thought that it was his place to tell them when a song wasn't any good. Now it turns out that he did tell them that and they ignored him to their own detriment. Now I think he did the very best that he could have possibly done with what they were willing to give him. Obviously they were too concerned with getting something out quickly before Noel to listen to the constructive criticism of their producer. He can't be blamed for the bullheadedness of the band. The entire board was complementary about the sound of the album when it came out. It's only now that DGSS flopped that they are looking to blame it on bad production IMO I think good production makes it make a better first impression but the sheen of it wears off pretty quickly and then it's the song quality that matters. No amount of great production could make the songs on DGSS truly great. If Sitek makes a better album with them he will probably have had better material to work with. As you say eventually you hear through the tricks which is why I think truly great song grow on you. Yea Knew there was a reason I liked your work  . Agree completely. Not just saying that either... Do me a favor. Remind me not to get into one of my debates with you . I may lose my streak |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 17, 2013 17:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Apr 17, 2013 17:57:10 GMT -5
 Maybe he's just joking, but if Liam's still a cokehead it certainly would explain his commitment to mediocre tunes. If this video is any indication, well... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 17:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 17, 2013 18:02:17 GMT -5
View AttachmentMaybe he's just joking, but if Liam's still a cokehead it certainly would explain his commitment to mediocre tunes. If this video is any indication, well... i thought it was common knowledge that Liam's a cokehead......?  God bless. |
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Post by Willie T. Soke on Apr 17, 2013 18:12:59 GMT -5
for the record i just wanted to point out that this place is fucking awesome.......we've got management teams trickled down to marketing and public relations departments, music producers, smoking hot chicks, pics of Tom Brady, pics of cats, a cult Boogie Nights following and yahoos like kalas and myself.... fuck yeah! |
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Post by Ash & Debris on Apr 17, 2013 18:14:29 GMT -5
A 40+ year old man still using coke after 20 odd years.
This can't possibly end well...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 18:17:12 GMT -5
for the record i just wanted to point out that this place is fucking awesome.......we've got management teams trickled down to marketing and public relations departments, music producers, smoking hot chicks, pics of Tom Brady, pics of cats, a cult Boogie Nights following and yahoos like kalas and myself.... fuck yeah! Fuck yea |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2013 18:18:48 GMT -5
A 40+ year old man still using coke after 20 odd years. This can't possibly end well... Sadly I agree. I stopped blow years ago I wouldn't have made it. So I hope he stopped as well man |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 17, 2013 18:19:21 GMT -5
The only reason people consider DGSS a flop is because it wasn't as successful as some Oasis albums, which is completely understandable for many reasons; new band, new band name, and other things. It's not even a flop, it just didn't sell like an Oasis album would. Some bands would kill for their results
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Apr 17, 2013 18:33:33 GMT -5
The only reason people consider DGSS a flop is because it wasn't as successful as some Oasis albums, which is completely understandable for many reasons; new band, new band name, and other things. It's not even a flop, it just didn't sell like an Oasis album would. Some bands would kill for their results It's considered a flop because most of the songs on it aren't that good. No band would "kill" for Beatles and Stones. |
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Post by jordan71421 on Apr 17, 2013 18:38:01 GMT -5
The only reason people consider DGSS a flop is because it wasn't as successful as some Oasis albums, which is completely understandable for many reasons; new band, new band name, and other things. It's not even a flop, it just didn't sell like an Oasis album would. Some bands would kill for their results It's considered a flop because most of the songs on it aren't that good. No band would "kill" for Beatles and Stones. I see where you're coming from, but I really don't think the album is anywhere near as bad as people like to think it is. If people knew that LAG weren't great songwriters in Oasis, why was everyone so shocked that the quality of the songs on DGSS weren't great and why do they still continue to bash it? Just my opinion though man |
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Post by matt on Apr 17, 2013 18:45:56 GMT -5
One story from the Different Gear sessions is that Lillywhite strongly advised the band from making The Roller all John Lennony with echoey vocals. The end result shows who got their way, and ultimately, what led to a 'so derivative it was vomit inducing' album. If the new album shapes up to be everything different we've wanted as its promising to be, then we can say the poor reaction was a blessing in disguise and a much needed kick up the arse for the band members which sent them to the modern times.
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Post by xo0oo0ox on Apr 17, 2013 18:48:10 GMT -5
If people knew that LAG weren't great songwriters in Oasis, why was everyone so shocked that the quality of the songs on DGSS weren't great and why do they still continue to bash it? That's the thing. I actually think LAG's contributions to Oasis albums were better than most of DGSS and show that they're capable of better stuff. Songbird, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel, Keep the Dream Alive, Turn Up the Sun, and I'm Outta Time are all album highlights for me. Wigwam is the only track on DGSS that I'd say is on par with those. |
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. One of 5 best concerts I ever saw at the old felt forum ( now called paramount theatre ) in MSG. ,.. Like 81 or 82. Man they freakin tore it up " London's burnin with boredom now !!!! ". They tore the roof off with that tune man. 
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