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Post by kris123 on Apr 13, 2013 14:43:27 GMT -5
The best post-oasis tune so far.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Apr 13, 2013 15:15:19 GMT -5
I find it quite boring and bang average, certainly not one of the better Beady Eye songs for me. The production is excellent though. Each to their own and that
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Post by matt on Apr 13, 2013 16:06:46 GMT -5
This is the first Beady Eye tune that gets better when listening to it more. A strange phenomenon - all Beady Eye tunes get much worse when you keep listening to it.
It's Beady Eye's best song (Morning Son and Four Letter Word following). Why - because it's DIFFERENT! Completely unexpected and out the blue, I wish Oasis had surprised me like this. And I never listen to Different Gear Still Speeding. My knives were sharpened for this song - delighted to be proved wrong.
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Post by keazu on Apr 13, 2013 16:19:34 GMT -5
Wha? You're all mad, you know that? Not even a top five Beady Eye song. I hear people talking about how it will "make sense" once we hear the whole album. I get that it builds up hype, but as a stand alone track, it fails to deliver. I'm calling this out as being one of those tracks which is universally slated a year from now. A subpar song masked by some shiny new production. That new production is very, very shiny though. I'll give you that. First of all, it's a matter of taste, it will always be a different experience for each one. If you don't like it, it's ok, we do. Secondly, I really don't get the argument you and other posters have made that it's a mediocre song masked by the production. Well, the song is the song, the production is as part of the song as anything else. It's like when you eat a hamburger, I don't think you go "hmmm, without meat this burger would be bad". You just enjoy it as a whole, or you don't. And I find FOTF to be very enjoyable as a whole, I don't go around thinking if it would sound as good without the brass or if it lacks a chorus. It's a very enjoyable experience for me to listen, and it evokes good emotions. And to me, that's what music is about, feeling more than thinking. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as am I. And mine's that their opinion is wrong. Nothing more to it than that. I'll clarify on that second point though. Using your analogy, say you really like bacon and mustard. Put that on a burger, and I bet that you like it regardless of whether the meat is a bit plain. But eat the burger plain, and it's obvious that you won't enjoy it as much. I agree that music is about feeling more than thinking, but that doesn't mean I don't like to think about music. And when listening to this, I can't help but feel dissatisfied. There's a build up that never amounts to anything, and ultimately feels unfinished to me. I'm hoping that the rest of the album has more structural complexity than this. |
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Post by Ash & Debris on Apr 13, 2013 17:32:38 GMT -5
It's definitely not better than TMS, WW, WOMR, ITBWAB and SOTS.
I'd put it in the middle with the likes of FLW and TR.
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Post by 1983andy on Apr 13, 2013 22:29:35 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong i love the new song, just think its too soon to pass judgement while its still fresh
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Post by good-rebel on Apr 14, 2013 1:09:24 GMT -5
Somewhere in the middle.
My Top 5 BDI songs are
1. Four Letter Word.
2. Kill For A Dream.
3. In The Bubble With A Bullet.
4. Wigwam.
5. The Beat Goes on.
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Post by peace1 on Apr 14, 2013 1:44:01 GMT -5
Changed my mined after a few more days of listening
1. Flick of the Finger
2. Four Letter Word
3. Wigwam
4. The Roller
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Post by thestellasarecold on Apr 14, 2013 4:10:08 GMT -5
I was underwhelmed after the first listen but FOTF is certainly 'a grower'. No, there in no build to a bombastic chorus a la Gallagher Senior and it does rely a great deal on deft production rather than intricate songwriting but intricate songwriting wasn't Noel's stock in trade either (although melody was).
FOTF has a freshness, a vibrancy and a hint of cool lacking from all of Beady Eye's previous work; you can hear retro influnces without it sounding like a pastiche. IMO, most of their previous work feels turgid and over wrought; slavish 60s pastiches (more so than Oasis in their more desperate '60s mode'- ie:'Who Feels Love?')
In that respect, I would rank it ahead of anything on their first album. I enjoyed DGSS initially because of the excitement of a new release but I must say, I tired of it quickly and with the possible exception of FLW and b side WOMR, it is a hasty and mediocre record.
FOTF has put a fresh spin on proceedings; Liam's vocals are carefully measured and understated and that quote is amazing; very rousing. No Andy, it's hardly Gimme Shelter (cringe!) but it's a positive start...
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