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Post by thedon on Nov 6, 2012 14:41:47 GMT -5
The Importance of Being Idle being the most recent example perhaps. I don't like it, but it has that timeless sort of perfection to it, you know one of those songs that sound like they just fell out of the sky fully formed? Before that it was Stop Crying Your Heart Out. Does Noel have anymore of those ones in him? His formative years as a solo artist are crying out for a Wild Wood.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2012 14:57:04 GMT -5
The Importance of Being Idle being the most recent example perhaps. I don't like it, but it has that timeless sort of perfection to it, you know one of those songs that sound like they just fell out of the sky fully formed? Before that it was Stop Crying Your Heart Out. Does Noel have anymore of those ones in him? His formative years as a solo artist are crying out for a Wild Wood. Stop Crying Your Heart Out is a classic? I really liked it when it was released 10 years ago but hardly ever listen to it now. I like my latter period Oasis more gritty. I completely agree that The Importance of Being Idle is a classic though. Awesome tune.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 6, 2012 15:03:08 GMT -5
IF I Had A Gun..., Everybody's On the Run, What A Life and The Death Of You And Me are classics.
no matter what someone calling himself 'thedon' throws up on the internet.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 6, 2012 15:05:11 GMT -5
i personally don't think there's been a classic song related to Oasis since Don't Look Back In Anger or Champagne Supernova and probably won't be anymore.
my definition of classic might be different from some though. i consider a classic song to be something that'll be played on the radio regularly in years to come and also translates outside the general fanbase.
God bless.
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 6, 2012 16:32:46 GMT -5
exactly. but as he included Stop Crying Your Heart Out in his 'classic' list, I thought those 4 HFB' songs were as 'classic' as that Oasis one.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 6, 2012 16:54:19 GMT -5
IF I Had A Gun..., Everybody's On the Run, What A Life and The Death Of You And Me are classics. no matter what someone calling himself 'thedon' throws up on the internet. Yep...those are all better than SCYHO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 17:40:40 GMT -5
IF I Had A Gun..., Everybody's On the Run, What A Life and The Death Of You And Me are classics. no matter what someone calling himself 'thedon' throws up on the internet. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2012 19:35:02 GMT -5
The Dying of the Light
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Post by Marcos on Nov 6, 2012 22:06:20 GMT -5
I think there are two types of 'classics'. A song which goes down in music history (like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live Forever and Champagne Supernova) is a classic, and a song that defines an specific period of a band's journey can be qualified as a classic of the band. On this category both Stop Crying In Your Heart Out and The Importance of Being Idle qualify as Oasis classics, imo.
Regarding Noel's songs, EOTR, IIHAG, WAL and TDOYAM are all classics of his solo career, but none of them are music classics!
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Post by vito81 on Nov 7, 2012 5:12:35 GMT -5
Ok, so why don't we wait a few years to see if EOTR, IIHAG, etc become a classic??? Or do you think Live Forever was an instant classic? Because, it wasn't a hit on sales....
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 7, 2012 8:35:06 GMT -5
I think that one shows that Noel can still write great songs, but it's not going to be a classic (unless he changes a lot about it). Too close to his other songs (I know, that's true for about every other Noel song, but it's even more obvious here) and not quite explosive enough...we'll see. I think there are two types of 'classics'. A song which goes down in music history (like Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger, Live Forever and Champagne Supernova) is a classic, and a song that defines an specific period of a band's journey can be qualified as a classic of the band. On this category both Stop Crying In Your Heart Out and The Importance of Being Idle qualify as Oasis classics, imo. Regarding Noel's songs, EOTR, IIHAG, WAL and TDOYAM are all classics of his solo career, but none of them are music classics! I agree. Noel will probably never write a "category 1 classic" again simply because music like his isn't successfull right now (and maybe because his solo stuff isn't quite up there with Live Forever), but "category 2 classics", sure.
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Post by Let It🩸 on Nov 7, 2012 8:44:57 GMT -5
i would consider people's "alternative" version of a classic song to just be a great song. there's definitely a difference between the two.
i would say Oasis classics are Live Forever, Whatever, Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger Anger and Champagne Supernova, and then there's lots of other great songs in their catalog.
God bless.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 15:05:52 GMT -5
If I had A Gun, Everybody's on the Run, They Dying Of The Light etc are classics on the same level as DLBIA but they won't be played on the radio as peoples tastes have changed since then. DLBIA was played constantly back then as it was what people liked at the time, everybody knows it and that's why it's still played now and is considered a classic. A song can still be a classic even if the morons in the general public don't/ (aren't told to) like it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 16:18:09 GMT -5
No, they're not on the same level as DLBIA, If I had a Gun is a good song as is Everybody's on the Run but they're no DLBIA. The Dying of the Light could be great.
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Post by warewolf95 on Nov 8, 2012 17:56:41 GMT -5
Personally, I think Everybody's On The Run, If I Had a Gun, and The Death Of You and Me are all as classic as TIOBI.
Those are the only tracks on the album tho that I would put in the same league as TIOBI
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 11:24:39 GMT -5
I see what Let It Bleed is saying; will Noel ever write a song as classic and timeless as Don't Look Back in Anger or Wonderwall?
No he won't, he hasn't done since writing those songs.
Will he write more stuff on a par with his best output since then? As the NGHFB album showed: Yes, without a doubt.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 9, 2012 14:11:12 GMT -5
Few artist ever truly experience writing a classic song for the ages. Let's all be thankful Noel has written Live Forever, Wonderwall, Don't Look Back In Anger and Champagne Supernova. All timeless.
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Post by dennizz on Nov 10, 2012 2:10:36 GMT -5
it's all about right time right place. In 1994-96 the musical landscape in britain was all about indie/guitarpop. Oasis tunes were on radio1 and two as well as every commercial statiop you can think of. In that musical landscape Don't look back in anger became a classic but i very much doubt it would have been if it was released on NGHFB. Noel did better songs after that imo but they never reached the level of DLBIA
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 10, 2012 8:42:36 GMT -5
There will be no 'classics' anymore. and I'm not only talking about Noel.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 8:44:09 GMT -5
Classics are songs that are songs that years after being released are still remembered and played on radios worldwide...
Oasis songs like Wonderwall, Back In Anger & The Importance are classics... 'Parklife' by Blur is a classic... 'Insomnia' by Faithless is a classic... 'All The Things She Said' by Tatu is a classic...
'Everybody's On The Run' by Noel Gallagher' High Flying Birds is not going to be a classic..
I'm HFP, and I've hit the nail on the head again. Thank You.
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Post by manny on Nov 11, 2012 9:15:26 GMT -5
Classics are songs that are songs that years after being released are still remembered and played on radios worldwide... Oasis songs like Wonderwall, Back In Anger & The Importance are classics... 'Parklife' by Blur is a classic... 'Insomnia' by Faithless is a classic... 'All The Things She Said' by Tatu is a classic... 'Everybody's On The Run' by Noel Gallagher' High Flying Birds is not going to be a classic.. I agree with all of that ^ I'm HFP, and I've hit the nail on the head again. Thank You. However we are not in a PSA
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Post by underneaththesky on Nov 11, 2012 10:03:56 GMT -5
Insomnia? what the fook is that?! All the Things She Said?? worst of all... Back In Anger and The Importance. utter prick you are. cringeworthy to read what you say. you need help....Back In Anger.. for fuck's sake. and anyway, you can't put those 2 songs on the same level. Don't Look Back (how a normal person would call it short) is a classic. The Importance Of Being Idle is as 'classic' as Everybody's On the Run, The Death Of You and Me and If I Had A Gun. nail's down your brain, my friend.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2012 3:49:10 GMT -5
Who cares? Even the best bands only have one real, totally classic tune. And none of them are as good as Bohemian Rhapsody or God Only Knows.
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Post by waterloostation on Nov 13, 2012 4:53:01 GMT -5
I reckon all people will agree that Imagine by John Lennon is a classic song, but, how many think that Band On The Run by Paul McCartney is classic too?
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 13, 2012 9:55:01 GMT -5
Who cares? Even the best bands only have one real, totally classic tune. And none of them are as good as Bohemian Rhapsody or God Only Knows. Well, the Beatles definitely have more than one (e.g. Hey Jude, Yesterday, Yellow Submarine...), but then again, comparing anything to the Beatles is unfair. And HFP, I would say that the biggest Blur classic is Song 2.
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