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Post by gdforever on Nov 4, 2012 12:51:04 GMT -5
My brother reads the sequel books so I know smatterings about what happens later on. It could be interesting if done well. They haven't ruined the Marvel franchises yet so I have hope.
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Post by carlober on Nov 4, 2012 13:25:29 GMT -5
Please don't ruin it.
(I would rather have a TV series though)
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 4, 2012 14:57:20 GMT -5
Its NOT actually about one of the books. Its already been announced that it will be an original story. Whether it'll adhere to the EU continuity or steam roll it remains to be seen. I've never been more excited about anything
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Post by gdforever on Nov 4, 2012 15:04:19 GMT -5
^ As long as they create a good story I am excited.
I'm not surprised they aren't adapting the books directly. But surely they will use them as resources for the universe that they are creating?
Hope so. I kind of like the universe created by the books.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 4, 2012 15:10:16 GMT -5
^ As long as they create a good story I am excited. I'm not surprised they aren't adapting the books directly. But surely they will use them as resources for the universe that they are creating? Hope so. I kind of like the universe created by the books. No one really knows yet. I know George hates Mara Jade and he's the one that wrote the script treatment so if he left her out that would change things drastically. Its still to early to do anything but speculate but they definitely aren't adapting a book and there's no way to say they'll adhere to them either. Its a good time to be a Star Wars fan. Already started to see the fair weather fans crawling out of the wood work
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 4, 2012 15:12:10 GMT -5
Please don't ruin it. (I would rather have a TV series though) Well The Clone Wars is still running and I think this news makes the Live Action series (that we've been hearing about since 2005) more likely. Its supposed to be set between III and IV and focus on crime lords and bounty hunters.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 4, 2012 15:34:56 GMT -5
Nothing can be as bad as Phantom Menace, I expect the new one to be superior to the prequels as the standard is relatively low.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 4, 2012 15:47:19 GMT -5
No one really knows yet. I know George hates Mara Jade and he's the one that wrote the script treatment so if he left her out that would change things drastically. Its still to early to do anything but speculate but they definitely aren't adapting a book and there's no way to say they'll adhere to them either. Its a good time to be a Star Wars fan. Already started to see the fair weather fans crawling out of the wood work I apologize for getting mixed up in quotes, my bad Still I imagine it will be inspired by the books in some form, be it at a level such as Nolan's Batman or far more subtle. I must say though, I was enthusiastic to hear what you thought on the matter, Plastic Geordie:) I think it would be a bit of a pain in the ass if they ignored the books. I mean, some fans have been reading them for 20+ years! I really, recommend the Thrawn Trilogy for anyone who wants to start reading post RotJ EU. Darth Plagueis is a novel set before Phantom Menace. That couple with Cloak of Deception (both the same authors) give a lot of weight to the politics in Episode I. DP also gives you Palpatine's backstory and it sets up a lot of things that happen in the Prequel Trilogy. Ever wondered about the Sifo Dyis bit from Attack of the Clones? They set the record straight here. If the politics bore and no explanation will change your mind you'd be best of skipping Cloak of Deception altogether
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 16:38:50 GMT -5
Nothing can be as bad as Phantom Menace, I expect the new one to be superior to the prequels as the standard is relatively low. Yeh, but Revenge Of The Sith was a great movie imo
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 16:43:12 GMT -5
I want this to be good but I can see it failing, I think the Star Wars franchise has been over done
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 4, 2012 17:00:23 GMT -5
Nothing can be as bad as Phantom Menace, I expect the new one to be superior to the prequels as the standard is relatively low. Attack of the Clones was far far worse. What a flaming pile of shit that movie was. Awful dialogue. Way too much CGI. Crappy wooden love story. Did anybody actually feel those characters belonged together? At least Phantom had Liam Neeson playing Qui-Gon Jinn. The baddest Jedi Knight of them all in my opinion. What a great character. Shame he only had one film appearance. Phantom also featured the best lightsaber fight in the entire 6 episode saga.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 4, 2012 17:04:01 GMT -5
Nothing can be as bad as Phantom Menace, I expect the new one to be superior to the prequels as the standard is relatively low. Yeh, but Revenge Of The Sith was a great movie imo If Revenge of the Sith is "great"...what do you consider "A New Hope" and "Empire Strikes Back"? Two movies widely regarded as all-time film classics by both critics and fans worldwide. Just curious because if those are universally acclaimed, I wouldn't include Sith in that class.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2012 17:09:29 GMT -5
Yeh, but Revenge Of The Sith was a great movie imo If Revenge of the Sith is "great"...what do you consider "A New Hope" and "Empire Strikes Back"? Two movies widely regarded as all-time film classics by both critics and fans worldwide. Just curious because if those are universally acclaimed, I wouldn't include Sith in that class. Not too keen on A New Hope, Empire is a brilliant movie as is Return of the Jedi. I'm not saying I put Revenge of the Sith in the same category but I still think its a great movie
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Post by shaokahnage on Nov 4, 2012 17:13:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a Knights of the Old Republic movie and I always thought a Jedi Academy movie would be awesome. I'm just hoping the new ones aren't plagued by poor dialogue and bad acting like the prequels .
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 4, 2012 17:22:08 GMT -5
I remember George Lucas saying maybe a decade ago that he really wanted to make a movie like the N64 game "Shadows of The Empire". Something that was a side story between episodes V and VI and explored the criminal side of the galaxy. He also expressed the same feelings for the eventual Star Wars TV series back in 2005. It is indeed a very exciting time for Star Wars fans. Especially those, like me, who were let down after some lackluster prequels. Sure they had their moments but they didn't possess the same spirit of the originals. I remember Q magazines review of 'Phantom Menace'. The final sentence read: "George Lucas forgot that it was HAN SOLO that we all wanted to be". A good point there.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 4, 2012 17:56:52 GMT -5
It's probably just nostalgia cause I loved the movies as a kid, but I never saw The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith as really bad movies - they're far from good but definitely entertaining (although the first 15 minutes of TPM are painful and Jar Jar...well, you know). I feel like George Lucas definitely lost touch with his audience though - most of episode 2, parts of episode 3 and a lot of stuff in The Clone Wars (I watched this for far too long ;D ) is far from everything Star Wars should try to be. It's probably a good thing someone new is in charge for 7-9...Disney did a great job with Marvel and unlike Lucas, they can objectively try to replicate what people actually like about SW. I'm very optimistic
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 4, 2012 18:11:54 GMT -5
It's probably just nostalgia cause I loved the movies as a kid, but I never saw The Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith as really bad movies - they're far from good but definitely entertaining (although the first 15 minutes of TPM are painful and Jar Jar...well, you know). I feel like George Lucas definitely lost touch with his audience though - most of episode 2, parts of episode 3 and a lot of stuff in The Clone Wars (I watched this for far too long ;D ) is far from everything Star Wars should try to be. It's probably a good thing someone new is in charge for 7-9...Disney did a great job with Marvel and unlike Lucas, they can objectively try to replicate what people actually like about SW. I'm very optimistic Good points. No doubt Lucas got caught up in the big business that was Star Wars after "A New Hope" came out. Toys and merchandise became huge and because he forfeited his salary for budget increases on "A New Hope" he got control of merchandising and sequel rights. He admitted not to kill off Han Solo in "Return of The Jedi", even though Lawrence Kasdan and Harrison Ford begged to have him killed early in act 3 of the film, because it would impact toys, novels, comics, etc down the road which could all generate money off that character. It was probably good the studio kept Lucas in check during the original trilogy. He needed it. When he was completely free of any studio control during the prequel movies, nobody who worked for George had the balls to say something wasn't right. It was kinda like Oasis' Be Here Now era. Nobody would stand up to the band when things were amok. Lucas thrives in a checks and balances system. Indiana Jones' Crystal Skull suffered the same fate.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 4, 2012 20:16:21 GMT -5
Nothing can be as bad as Phantom Menace, I expect the new one to be superior to the prequels as the standard is relatively low. Attack of the Clones was far far worse. What a flaming pile of shit that movie was. Awful dialogue. Way too much CGI. Crappy wooden love story. Did anybody actually feel those characters belonged together? At least Phantom had Liam Neeson playing Qui-Gon Jinn. The baddest Jedi Knight of them all in my opinion. What a great character. Shame he only had one film appearance. Phantom also featured the best lightsaber fight in the entire 6 episode saga. I thought Phantom Menace and Attack Of the Clones were both complete shit. They were two of the worst films of there respective years of release let alone the series. Revenge Of The Sith was a bit of a return to form but it wasn't amazing.
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Post by mx8000 on Nov 4, 2012 21:33:20 GMT -5
The prequel trilogy was complete shit. Bad acting, bad script, characters you didn't care for. I hope they dont fuck up the next trilogy.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 5, 2012 8:08:22 GMT -5
The prequel trilogy was complete shit. Bad acting, bad script, characters you didn't care for. I hope they dont fuck up the next trilogy. if you consider that everyone already knew exactly what was going to happen, and the characters and story were already so screwed up from the first two, I thought the 3rd was actually pretty fucking good
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2012 9:00:54 GMT -5
The prequel trilogy was complete shit. Bad acting, bad script, characters you didn't care for. I hope they dont fuck up the next trilogy. if you consider that everyone already knew exactly what was going to happen, and the characters and story were already so screwed up from the first two, I thought the 3rd was actually pretty fucking good Revenge of the Sith featured lines like this: "Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo; so long ago when there was nothing but our love. No politics, no plotting, no war." - PadmeI consider Sith the best of the prequels but that really isn't saying too much. Lucas has been in a rut since after Willow came out. A very underrated film.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2012 10:59:26 GMT -5
if you consider that everyone already knew exactly what was going to happen, and the characters and story were already so screwed up from the first two, I thought the 3rd was actually pretty fucking good Revenge of the Sith featured lines like this: "Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo; so long ago when there was nothing but our love. No politics, no plotting, no war." - Padme Whats so bad about that?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Nov 5, 2012 12:24:06 GMT -5
Revenge of the Sith featured lines like this: "Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo; so long ago when there was nothing but our love. No politics, no plotting, no war." - Padme Whats so bad about that? Listen to it again delivered on screen. Cringe worthy. Often citied as terrible dialogue. Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher use to make fun of George Lucas all the time saying "George, you can read these lines but you can't speak it".
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 5, 2012 14:05:57 GMT -5
well george lucas fucked up indiana jones 4. i hope he stays away from that plan
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2012 14:07:51 GMT -5
i haven't seen any star wars
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