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Post by slacks3 on Sept 22, 2005 1:54:28 GMT -5
I feel Be Here Now is an excellent album, as I did when it came out. It was refreshing to hear longer songs rather than the four minute hits everyone was producing during the 90's. I mean BHN is no where near the class of Definately Maybe, my personal favorite, or WTSMG...but it was a nice change of pace, and at the time I felt Oasis were such bad asses for not foullowing suit...I never realized how many true Oasis fans dislike this album before reading some threads on here. I had heard Noel speak poorly of it in the past...but I also read Liam saying he thought it was some of their best work. I've read more negative things on here about Be here now..than any of their other albums. My personal opinion is that it's either their 3rd or 4th best album. Whenever it becomes popular again to have 6-8 minute songs like it has been in the past...then thoughts might change on this album when looking back. What do you think?
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Post by seven29pompeyfc on Sept 22, 2005 3:15:49 GMT -5
I like it. How can you dislike an album where every track's good?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2005 7:25:48 GMT -5
ive said it a million times...how can a record that produced songs like STAND BY ME. AATW.DONT GO AWAY.DYKWIM. GIRL IN DIRTY SHIRT..... be a bad lp???
it was just impossible to follow up DM and WTSMG ..any other band release a lp with those tunes on it would be hailed as geniuses
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Post by supersonic1983 on Sept 22, 2005 7:34:34 GMT -5
BHN is underrated. It got 5 stars here, there and everywhere when it came out, until it became popular to slag off Oasis and BHN took a lot of stick as the 'turning point'. Coldplay will be in the same position in a couple of years; X&Y is a great album but as soon as it becomes cool to dislike them it'll get ripped to shreds.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2005 8:12:48 GMT -5
Coldplay will be in the same position in a couple of years; X&Y is a great album but as soon as it becomes cool to dislike them it'll get ripped to shreds. cant agree with this MARTIN is a BONO in training ....he TRYS so hard to be liked and is sooo political that the media bias (especially here in the usa) will never rip him or his band to shreds like they did OASIS who refused to KISS ASS....COLDPLAY PLAYED THE GAME AS U2 DID SO THEY WILL NEVER BE OUTCASTS LIKE OASIS... AND I LOVE OASIS EVEN MORE CAUSE OF THAT! |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Sept 22, 2005 8:59:03 GMT -5
Be Here Now is to Definitely Maybe what The Frog Chorus is to Blackbird.
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Post by Superguiller. on Sept 22, 2005 10:55:10 GMT -5
Be Here Now is to Definitely Maybe what The Frog Chorus is to Blackbird. Totally disagree. BHN is really close to the white album IMO---->Normally I prefer BHN, some other times I'm more into the white album. But they're both great. |
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on Sept 22, 2005 11:22:28 GMT -5
Coldplay will be in the same position in a couple of years; X&Y is a great album but as soon as it becomes cool to dislike them it'll get ripped to shreds. cant agree with this MARTIN is a BONO in training ....he TRYS so hard to be liked and is sooo political that the media bias (especially here in the usa) will never rip him or his band to shreds like they did OASIS who refused to KISS ASS....COLDPLAY PLAYED THE GAME AS U2 DID SO THEY WILL NEVER BE OUTCASTS LIKE OASIS... AND I LOVE OASIS EVEN MORE CAUSE OF THAT! Did you not get a chance to read the NY Times review that called Coldplay the "most unsufferable band of the decade" Chris Martin went on record saying he was "devastated" Rollingstone also gave X&Y only 3 stars, and the review isn't very complimentary... I love coldplay but I don't think Chris has the cojones to be put on the same pedestal as bono |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2005 11:34:44 GMT -5
cant agree with this MARTIN is a BONO in training ....he TRYS so hard to be liked and is sooo political that the media bias (especially here in the usa) will never rip him or his band to shreds like they did OASIS who refused to KISS ASS....COLDPLAY PLAYED THE GAME AS U2 DID SO THEY WILL NEVER BE OUTCASTS LIKE OASIS... AND I LOVE OASIS EVEN MORE CAUSE OF THAT! Did you not get a chance to read the NY Times review that called Coldplay the "most unsufferable band of the decade" Chris Martin went on record saying he was "devastated" Rollingstone also gave X&Y only 3 stars, and the review isn't very complimentary... I love coldplay but I don't think Chris has the cojones to be put on the same pedestal as bono I READ THAT but they will never be "killed "in the media LIKE OASIS........when i meant "a bono in training" i meant with all the political causes he goes on about and the fact he has a darling media savvy wife...people like that tend not to get "killed" in the media..they may get a bad review now and again , but they will be given slack.. OASIS HAVE NO SLACK CAUSE THEY NEVER PLAYED THE GAME..LIKE IT OR NOT ( AND I DONT MIND COLDPLAY) COLDPLAY do play the game... |
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Post by Mogly on Sept 22, 2005 11:56:13 GMT -5
BHN is a great album, much better than SOTSOG and HC together!! I mean, listen to SBM, DYKWIM, IGBM, DGA, IHITIK, AATW(i love it despite it's length)... there's not one weak song in it. some are just not as good. It was released at the wrong time with princess Diana's death and all that....the songs are really long and it's difficult to listen to it in one go but it will always be a great album
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Post by Mogly on Sept 22, 2005 12:00:23 GMT -5
and coldplay are a good band but X&Y doesn't live up to it's hype despite being a good record and having some good songs. I think BHN blows away X&Y
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2005 12:26:01 GMT -5
and coldplay are a good band but X&Y doesn't live up to it's hype despite being a good record and having some good songs. I think BHN blows away X&Y coldplay are a very good band , i agree...i just think they will always be portrayd in a better light than OASIS because of the way chris plays the game....no big deal and ...jmo |
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Post by Mario on Sept 22, 2005 19:14:03 GMT -5
I know WTSMG IS OAsis's mainstream album (compared to the rest) But i think BHN is better!
WONDERWALL Vs DYKWIM DYKWIM
STAND BY ME VS SOME MIGHT SAY STAND BY ME
MORNING GLORY VS DONT GO AWAY MONRING GLORY
CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA VS ALL AROUND THE WORLD CHAMPAGNE
now that its a tie, compare the rest!
BHN has better album fillers, all the BHN songs are great. I cant stand Hello and Roll with it.
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Post by Mogly on Sept 22, 2005 21:35:27 GMT -5
and coldplay are a good band but X&Y doesn't live up to it's hype despite being a good record and having some good songs. I think BHN blows away X&Y coldplay are a very good band , i agree...i just think they will always be portrayd in a better light than OASIS because of the way chris plays the game....no big deal and ...jmo yeah that's for sure, liam and noel have never played the corporate game and that was what killed them in america... but it kills me to see coldplay gets all the good press because for me oasis is so much stronger musically |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2005 21:40:37 GMT -5
coldplay are a very good band , i agree...i just think they will always be portrayd in a better light than OASIS because of the way chris plays the game....no big deal and ...jmo yeah that's for sure, liam and noel have never played the corporate game and that was what killed them in america... but it kills me to see coldplay gets all the good press because for me oasis is so much stronger musically preaching to the choir mate   |
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Post by slacks3 on Sept 23, 2005 2:07:21 GMT -5
I'm actually glad Oasis isn't hyped all over the place..like Coldplay is nowadays. At least here in America. I mean look how solid the fan base is for Oasis. When I went to the concert last week...it was if everyone in the audience knew the words for every song they played. You go to a Green day concert or a coldplay concert and 75% people are just there because it's popular...and they really only know 4-5 songs from the group. I know Oasis is the greatest band...so I really don't give a f# k what everyone else thinks. WTSMG probably sold like 2-3 million records her in the US...and what has DBTT sold? Maybe 200,000. WTSMG is a better album...but 10 folds better..no way...Oasis has turned into a classic band...it doesn't matter how much they sell anymore. Do the Rolling Stones really care how many copies their new album sales? Probbaly not...just as long as the true fans enjoy the album..that's all that matters now..and I have not heard one Oasis fan say DBTT is Shit. Everyone seems to enjoy it. And When they are in town...anyone that knows anything about Music makes sure they go to the Oasis Gig. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Sept 23, 2005 4:55:16 GMT -5
I know WTSMG IS OAsis's mainstream album (compared to the rest) But i think BHN is better! WONDERWALL Vs DYKWIM DYKWIM STAND BY ME VS SOME MIGHT SAY STAND BY ME MORNING GLORY VS DONT GO AWAY MONRING GLORY CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA VS ALL AROUND THE WORLD CHAMPAGNE now that its a tie, compare the rest! BHN has better album fillers, all the BHN songs are great. I cant stand Hello and Roll with it. Ok, let's compare the rest... Um, Cast No Shadow? Don't Look Back In Anger? Compare that to fuckin Tragic Pie and It's Getting Better Maaaan! There is no comparison!! |
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Post by carlm on Sept 23, 2005 7:34:55 GMT -5
I'm actually glad Oasis isn't hyped all over the place..like Coldplay is nowadays. At least here in America. I mean look how solid the fan base is for Oasis. When I went to the concert last week...it was if everyone in the audience knew the words for every song they played. You go to a Green day concert or a coldplay concert and 75% people are just there because it's popular...and they really only know 4-5 songs from the group. I know Oasis is the greatest band...so I really don't give a f# k what everyone else thinks. WTSMG probably sold like 2-3 million records her in the US...and what has DBTT sold? Maybe 200,000. WTSMG is a better album...but 10 folds better..no way...Oasis has turned into a classic band...it doesn't matter how much they sell anymore. Do the Rolling Stones really care how many copies their new album sales? Probbaly not...just as long as the true fans enjoy the album..that's all that matters now..and I have not heard one Oasis fan say DBTT is Shit. Everyone seems to enjoy it. And When they are in town...anyone that knows anything about Music makes sure they go to the Oasis Gig. I agree like w0ah |
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Sept 23, 2005 15:46:05 GMT -5
If you take individual songs, BHN has a lot of great songs.
When you take it as an album it is just hard to sit for 75 minutes.
I like DYKWIM length because it has so many changes.
My Big Mouth is ok.
Magic Pie..........ok.....drags on and on for no reason.
SBM (ok at first) then once again drags on and on.
IHITIK- Most underrated song
GITDS - decent, once again drags on at the end
FI/O like it. very different almost bluesy feel
DGA - Excellent
BHN- ok ( like the flush at the end!!) sounds a bit like Bad Medicine by Bon Jovi at the beginning.
AATW - great (but wow is it long)
IGBM - The #1 offender of dragging on. Great until that
AATW reprise- whatever
The problem I had is I have NO problem w/ long songs but when the length of the song is long mainly do to repetitive lines (It's gettin' Better Man, Stand By Me over and over)
it's get tougher for me anyway, to stick BHN in the cd player w/out some editing.
Individually BHN may have some of their best songs and with the magic of digital program playback on computer I can mix all of Oasis songs around.
I'd rather sit and listen to SOTSOG or HC from start to finish even though BHN may have the overall better individual tracks.
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Post by carlm on Sept 23, 2005 17:18:53 GMT -5
Be Here Now is probably their best opening song ever. So full of energy!
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Post by Moorish on Sept 27, 2005 10:58:42 GMT -5
I think that BHN is the germ of a great record smothered in over-production and cocaine. It wasn't "fashionable" even back then to have an entire album of 6 and 7 minute plus songs. Which is why when the initial euphoria of the release faded, people felt like it was an endurance test because it was SO LONG and SO LOUD. There isn't enough light and shade on there, it's all cranked to 11 and here we go. Which, for the legions who got into Oasis through MG, with it's heavy rockers living side-by-side with stuff like Cast No Shadow, Wonderwall or DLBIA, was too much to take. Oasis didn't, to coin a musical cliche, "move on". they just retreated into drugs and their Beatles obsession. Don't get me wrong, I like BHN probably more than I should, but they were creatively stagnating at the time and the only idea Noel could have was to take some of these great, beautiful songs and just whack loads of guitars all over them.
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Post by RobW on Sept 30, 2005 0:46:55 GMT -5
Be Here Now is probably their best opening song ever. So full of energy! For sure! I love watching the Gmex gig intro! Extremly pumping! |
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