Notes-per-minute? Slash isn't exactly a "shredder" on the guitar. He's faster than Noel sure, but speed is not one of the best things about his playing. His tone, vibrato, bends and sense of melody are all what make him great. I know I've gone off the point here, but Slash is often unfairly criticised and lumped in with wanky metal guitarists.

While I'm at it, I also don't think it's fair that Guns N' Roses are lumped in with Bon Jovi and those other appalling hair-metal bands of the late 80s. They had a questionable image at the start alright, but they were far more legitimate than say, Poison. Appetite For Destruction is far more punk than metal - listen to It's So Easy. They did become laughable in the early 90s, but my God, that first album is amazing - great songs, great guitar playing, and the most raw, energetic sound of the decade.

Somebody's probably on drugs.
Oasis rule!!!

I fucking hate Guns 'N Roses... it feels so overprocessed to me.

And nobody went to my Toronto venue to see Jet. The show sold out in 45 minutes. That's pretty fucking good, my friends.

And just cos Noel doesn't ALWAYS change his solos live doesn't mean he's inferior. Usually he'll play outro solos differently, which is the way it should be done

Oh ya, and Liam's voice actually sounds good.....

All I can think about is the fact that both bands brought back rock and roll to their respective time frames, and perhaps there's a question of who did it better. Plus if "grunge" music stole the show from GNR, and their fans can't do much in this type of argument against Nirvana and Pearl Jam fans, Oasis are the next best target. I don't mean to generalize but that's just a wild guess.

Izzy Stradlin left when he saw this bloated monster come alive in the Illusion albums.

After that it all went down hill. I combined both Illusion albums to make one 'best of illusion' and that works but I tell you I'd rather hear early Ratt, early Crue or early Def Leppard over G'NR (for when I am in my 80's metal mood).

'Appetite' was awesome but I look at that as an album and not the band as a whole.

I mean really, what was that 2002 fake comeback w a fat Axle with no eyebrows and braids w/ a guitarist wearing a bucket! Comedy!

Axle kept the name to G'n R for the fact he knows that the band name will sell when a new album is released, but after people realize it's just him, it's over.

now this is a post i cannot believe...GNR suck? ....please

oh man madagascar is such a bad song. oh jesus it makes me vomit in rage

G N R is what Oasis would have been if Oasis never came back with a WTSMG and subsequent albums. Appetite was a decent album. The true test is, are the songs 1-12 listenable today. I don't think people would stand Mr. Brownstone or the others. DM plays smoothly all the way through.

AXL was a decent front man compared to the Vince Neil's and Brett Michaels of the time but couldn't keep it together. Liam has proven to be the real deal. Liam is no gimmicks just a fooken great lead singer who commands the crowd off of natural talent.

Slash is techinically better but can't ink an anthem like Noel. Slash has nothing to contribute to rock n' roll. Slash on that new band sounds dated when he solo's.

In this past tour, the band has become Liam's band (odd as that sounds). Noel has now become second fiddle. I noticed that Noel is quiet and plays it buisness as usual. Liam has stepped up.

I guess Mr. Brownstone is on the B tier of songs on that album. But stuff like my michelle and anything goes is questionable.

November Rain I doubt is taken seriously these days.
Paradise City is a good jam but so 80's all the way. " take me down to paradise city the grass in green and the girls are pretty."

Gn'R came about the 80's party scene. Oasis derived from brotherhood and friendship. That is a huge difference. LA back then was just about hair bands and sure Gun's stood out from that pack but what is that really saying? When Oasis came out they stood out because the charts were dominated by american acts singing about how miserable life was and Oasis came and just reinvigorated the rock scene and brought it back to it's essential basics. Oasis and DM is timeless for that. Appetite can be categorized as 80's or Heavy Metal while DM is not categoriezed for it's era but it's style. It has transcended 90's, debut album etc. It ranks in every all time album category alongside the likes of ruber soul , white album etc. Oasis is that kind of band with that kind of talent.

At least half of those points have absolutely no relevance to the debate. The rest are just wrong. Guns N' Roses have no musical talent? Slash can't carry a "rythum" (sic)? And since when did Oasis have anything to do with ballet?