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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 5, 2012 18:32:50 GMT -5
I'm excluding the first 3 for obvious reasons.
It's a common topic on for us fans - Noel picking the wrong tracklist - even DM and MG could have been slightly better with the tunes available!
Frankly, i think DBTT is the best out of the aforementioned bunch as far as songs of that era are concerned.
DOYS and SOTSOG suffer from the same problem: 3 shit songs which could have easily been replaced with 3 much better songs.
HC is just dross, bar the singles, and the b-sides are much much better.
So it really comes down to DOYS, SOTSOG, HC, but which could have been improved the most to create the better album of the lot based on the tunes they had available during the corresponding era?
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Aug 5, 2012 20:37:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2012 20:47:39 GMT -5
I've gone for DOYS over SOTSOG which needed only one song adding and a couple swapping maybe. DOYS was seriously messed up which is a shame because I love it until high horse lady which is appalling, take that out and put boy with the blues in which is a good solid song then I believe in all, TBWTL, falling down and soldier on and sure the album loses a bit of momentum but not as much as the real DOYS. I think its a shame as well because it turned out to be oasis' last album and it ended up not being great when a couple of tracks changed could've made it there best in years IMO
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Post by spaneli on Aug 5, 2012 21:44:07 GMT -5
I'll go with SOTSOG.
DOYS could be a choice if I knew what would have been on it. I know some will say, look at DGSS. But the plain fact of the matter is that none of us know what those songs may have sounded like around DOYS. All we have to go on with those are the finished products which appeared on DGGS. RM, BWTB, and IBIA are the only viable ones we actually know about that we've actually heard a recording from that era. With RM being the only song that really fit the sound of DOYS.
I'm going with SOTSOG just because there were clearly better songs than LJ, ICSAL, and PYMWYMI and we have actual versions of those songs from that era. LAMB, Cigarettes in Hell, One Way Road, and Carry Us All.
A tracklisting like this would have made for an extremely memorable album with great singles and nice balance between Liam and Noel vocals:
1. Fucking in the Bushes
2. Go Let It Out
3. Who Feels Love
4. One Way Road
5. Let's All Make Believe
6. Where Did It All Go Wrong
7. Gas Panic!
8. Cigarettes In Hell
9. Sunday Morning Call
10. Roll It Over
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2012 1:02:22 GMT -5
Congratulations on starting a thread thats never been done before...
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Post by Let It🩸 on Aug 6, 2012 12:30:21 GMT -5
we're gonna need you to take one for the team and do another courtesy fuck, eva.
God bless.
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Post by warewolf95 on Aug 26, 2012 18:09:49 GMT -5
Aside from the placement of I Can See a Liar on Giants, I thinks its sequenced pretty good. DOYS however - talk about front-heavy  |
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Post by NYR on Aug 27, 2012 9:11:53 GMT -5
SOTSOG. some of those b-sides were classics and he put on a lot of filler.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Aug 28, 2012 11:34:06 GMT -5
I'm surprised DBTT has a single vote, its the only album post the first three which has a decent flow (Standing on the Shoulders of Giants might be arguable, but I'm really not sure about the two ballads together) and isn't let down by any terrible songs in the same way as the other 3.
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Post by supernovadragon on Sept 2, 2012 17:31:48 GMT -5
Either SOTSOG or DOYS - if I knew any of the possible songs that COULD have been on DOYS then that would have been it but, other that Boy With The Blues, I Believe In All and Those Swollen Hand Blues, we haven't really heard anything...so SOTSOG
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 6, 2012 1:26:42 GMT -5
Dig Out Your Soul.
The whole album is messed up except Falling Down.
It was the beginning of the end of the band.
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Post by space75gr on Sept 15, 2012 8:53:40 GMT -5
"Dig Out Your Soul".
cause he was too scared to make the right choices and use the best tracks from the other members...if you know what i mean...
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Post by Teal on Jan 15, 2013 23:38:33 GMT -5
SOTSOG for sure. The album would have been significantly improved had they swapped out the weakest tracks with the B-sides. Specifically Sunday Morning Call for One Way Road or Cigarettes in Hell and Little James for Let's All Make Believe. I'd say put Full On in there as well, but it sounds a lot like I Can See A Liar. Personally I like it better but it wouldn't make as much of a difference. I guess you could say the same for HC because the b-sides Idlers Dream, Thank You For the Good Times, Shout it Out Load, etc.. I liked better than some of the album tracks. But to me HC was more solid overall than the weakest points on SOTSOG so I really can't complain. Albeit the 90s had amazing b-sides, but the majority of my favorites were put on The Masterplan, and to me it was more like a surplus of good songs that could have been album tracks rather than ones I would swap out with what were put on the albums. If it ever became possible, they should put out a post-90s b-side compilation  |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 16, 2013 9:34:36 GMT -5
It's a close call between DOYS and SOTSOG but I decided to go with DOYS. I had very high hopes for this LP. I bought into everything Noel and Sardy were selling heading into recording sessions at Abbey Road. I was also pumped up Oasis was finally doing a complete album at Abbey Road. I expected songs like Record Machine, Boy With the Blues and maybe Stop The Clocks to appear on it. When the tracklisting came out they were nowhere to be found except BWTB on the bonus disc. When the album first leaked, I was initially blown away with the first 5 songs on the album. Tune after tune after tune. Noel's songwriting is on fire. As we all know, the second half of the album is lackluster and Falling Down isn't enough to save it.
In my opinion I would have swapped out High Horse, AGNOM, and TNOR and included BWTB, Record Machine and Come On, Its Alright. Yes we haven't heard it at all but Noel and Andy said it was going to be the first single before TSOTL was written so how bad can it be?
1. Bag It Up
2. The Turning
3. Waiting For The Rapture
4. The Shock of The Lightening
5. I'm Outta Time
6. Record Machine
7. Falling Down
8. To Be Where There Is Life (Richard Fearless version)
9. Come On, It' s Alright
10. Boy With The Blues
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Post by NYR on Jan 16, 2013 17:39:20 GMT -5
If it ever became possible, they should put out a post-90s b-side compilation do you think it would sell? if it had, i'm sure it would have been released already. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 21:05:38 GMT -5
Can't count dig out your soul it sucked only time I ever was utterly dissapointed,,, from a pure track listing standpoint even though I loved bhn it was when Noel was at his worst with the coke and track progression was dodgy at best a lot of good tunes but not in the order to get into flow of album
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Post by Bruno on Jan 30, 2013 1:14:25 GMT -5
It's quite funny I really like how Dig Out Your Soul flows. No problems in the track listing for me at least.
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Post by Rain on Feb 1, 2013 21:51:38 GMT -5
My vote Dig Out Your Soul.Only song on that album stands out was Falling Down. Rest of the songs on the album won't hold to the test of time. HC is not a good album, but each song can hold it's own.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 23, 2014 14:22:29 GMT -5
SOTSOG needed a better tracklist, and could've had it. I think this would've been really ideal: 1) Fuckin' in the Bushes 2) Go Let it Out 3) Who Feels Love? 4) Let's All Make Believe (replacing PYMWYMI) 5) Where Did it All Go Wrong? 6) Gas Panic! 7) Sunday Morning Call 8) Carry Us All (replacing LJ) 9) I Can See a Liar 10) Roll it Over In this part of Oasis' career the best players should be playing. Noel had the songs when you consider that Force of Nature and Little By Little were written prior to the SOTSOG sessions. I Can See A Liar should have been dumped and Noel could have easily written a second verse to Put Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is, not a bad tune by any stretch but it is repetitive to the max. |
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Post by World71R on Aug 23, 2014 14:42:28 GMT -5
SOTSOG needed a better tracklist, and could've had it. I think this would've been really ideal: 1) Fuckin' in the Bushes 2) Go Let it Out 3) Who Feels Love? 4) Let's All Make Believe (replacing PYMWYMI) 5) Where Did it All Go Wrong? 6) Gas Panic! 7) Sunday Morning Call 8) Carry Us All (replacing LJ) 9) I Can See a Liar 10) Roll it Over In this part of Oasis' career the best players should be playing. Noel had the songs when you consider that Force of Nature and Little By Little were written prior to the SOTSOG sessions. I Can See A Liar should have been dumped and Noel could have easily written a second verse to Put Yer Money Where Your Mouth Is, not a bad tune by any stretch but it is repetitive to the max.Quite honestly, I didn't think of that. I do enjoy that song, despite what a lot of people say. It's a really creative twist on a pulse-pounding rock song, with the industrial/psychedelic electronics used, and that "Holy shit, cool" outro that sounds like the engine from an IndyCar arcade game. |
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Jan 26, 2015 14:19:44 GMT -5
Thinking about it, I'd change my vote from, DOYS to SOTSOG (not necessarily for song strength but for importance to the band).
I'd imagine Oasis's reputation would have still been relatively good by this point, with 2 hits and 1 miss under their belt, anticipation for a classic album, or at least a classic song or 2 would have been considered a very real prospect. Noel should have spent longer on the album making sure it was as good as he could possibly make it... which I don't think he honestly did. 'Force of Nature' (A song I consider very underrated here) and 'Little by Little' were written by this point and could have easily made SOTSOG track list, as could 'Lets All Make Believe' (a song which gets more praise than it deserves, but should ultimately be included too). Other tracks like 'Full On' show some real ambition in the guitar department, but feel incomplete. So much potential from this album, and a few tweaks would have made a big improvement. It would have safely claimed 3rd position had 'Force of Nature', 'Little by Little' and 'Lets All Make Believe' been included.
Oasis needed a comeback after Be Here Now, and SOTSOG wasn't it. A very significant time in for the band which gets overlooked.
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Post by World71R on Jan 26, 2015 23:28:54 GMT -5
Thinking about it, I'd change my vote from, DOYS to SOTSOG (not necessarily for song strength but for importance to the band). I'd imagine Oasis's reputation would have still been relatively good by this point, with 2 hits and 1 miss under their belt, anticipation for a classic album, or at least a classic song or 2 would have been considered a very real prospect. Noel should have spent longer on the album making sure it was as good as he could possibly make it... which I don't think he honestly did. 'Force of Nature' (A song I consider very underrated here) and 'Little by Little' were written by this point and could have easily made SOTSOG track list, as could 'Lets All Make Believe' (a song which gets more praise than it deserves, but should ultimately be included too). Other tracks like 'Full On' show some real ambition in the guitar department, but feel incomplete. So much potential from this album, and a few tweaks would have made a big improvement. It would have safely claimed 3rd position had 'Force of Nature', 'Little by Little' and 'Lets All Make Believe' been included. Oasis needed a comeback after Be Here Now, and SOTSOG wasn't it. A very significant time in for the band which gets overlooked. Agreed. While both DOYS and SOTSOG needed changes to their tracklistings, SOTSOG was more dire because of how many good songs were left off, and the meh ones that got put on. If I'd have it another way, I'd order it like this: 1. Fuckin' in the Bushes 2. I Can See a Liar 3. Go Let it Out 4. Who Feels Love? 5. Full On 6. Let's All Make Believe 7. Gas Panic! 8. Where Did it All Go Wrong? 9. One Way Road 10. Roll it Over A good mix of Liam & Noel-sung songs, while still including the necessary tunes from the era. |
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Post by World71R on Jan 26, 2015 23:45:32 GMT -5
DOYS could've gone like this, for me:
1. To Be Where There's Life
2. Bag it Up
3. The Turning
4. The Shock of the Lightning
5. I'm Outta Time
6. Waiting for the Rapture (Alt. Version #2)
7. Boy With the Blues
8. Come on Outside (Liam vocals)
9. Soldier On
10. (Get Off Your) High Horse Lady
11. Falling Down
Even though you may have two songs that aren't as strong as the first 8, it finishes very well with Falling Down, and GOYHH leads into it even better.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Jan 27, 2015 4:57:34 GMT -5
I don't think Falling Down is a good closer. I liked Soldier On as a closer, but that's probably more because of what happened after and what we know now, than because of the quality of the song.
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Post by Sternumman on Feb 3, 2015 8:41:16 GMT -5
Wtsmg
Take off the two interludes add acquiesce and the masterplan
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