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Post by leak4ever on Jun 3, 2012 19:35:09 GMT -5
there are very few artist who are sounding live like on the album Does anyone really want that? Live music should give an extra dimension or a different take to what was produced in the studio. Is that what we're calling Liam's kermit the frog vocals now, an "extra dimension"? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 3, 2012 19:46:22 GMT -5
Does anyone really want that? Live music should give an extra dimension or a different take to what was produced in the studio. Is that what we're calling Liam's kermit the frog vocals now, an "extra dimension"? I wasn't talking about Liam or Noel, just in general. U mad? |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 3, 2012 20:43:49 GMT -5
Noel sounds great. early gigs, he had a hard time with Everybody's On the run and If I Had A Gun... it was his first gigs singing all the songs. but he got so much better at it. being the only one into the spotlight and all. his vocals are spot on. he can sing whatever the fuck he wants. a whole lot of fucking dimensions, if you wanna take it that way.
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Post by gdforever on Jun 3, 2012 22:37:42 GMT -5
I've listened again. If someone could point out the supposed wrong notes I'd appreciate it. From what I hear Noel's vocal delivery is basically spot on.
Also. Liam's been better than his worst. But listen to the best BDI performance and then G-MEX (1997) and try and tell me that even Liam's 2011 voice would've in any way outstanding for an Oasis performance. It would have been serviceable. But that fact is...Liam isn't a patch on the singer he used to be. And that fact that he has fallen far enough that now when his best is worse than his worst had been in the 90's and people are celebrating is sad. It's nasally and pinched. I've heard some people prefer the nasally Liam voice...but I find it grating.
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Post by noasabian on Jun 4, 2012 10:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jun 4, 2012 10:44:15 GMT -5
I agree that Noel's voice has been terrible this tour. He strangely seemed to fail to show his best with even relatively easier tunes like IIHAG. But I actually think ASGOG live, judging from the Seoul performance, is the strongest rendition by HFB along with SOTWB. Awesome.
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Post by headshrinker84 on Jun 4, 2012 11:56:01 GMT -5
I agree that Noel's voice has been terrible this tour. He strangely seemed to fail to show his best with even relatively easier tunes like IIHAG. But I actually think ASGOG live, judging from the Seoul performance, is the strongest rendition by HFB along with SOTWB. Awesome. No it hasn't. Watch the Paris gig and say his voice is terrible. |
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jun 5, 2012 8:32:55 GMT -5
I agree that Noel's voice has been terrible this tour. He strangely seemed to fail to show his best with even relatively easier tunes like IIHAG. But I actually think ASGOG live, judging from the Seoul performance, is the strongest rendition by HFB along with SOTWB. Awesome. No it hasn't. Watch the Paris gig and say his voice is terrible. When I claim that Noel's voice was terrible "this tour", it doesn't mean that every single gig was. It implies generality. Would've been better if I'd put in words like "throughout" there, sorry if it caused any misunderstanding. Paris gig is awesome btw. Thanks for letting me know  |
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Post by Riverman on Jun 5, 2012 13:35:35 GMT -5
The intro is mega...very captivating. Not sure about the rest.
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Post by warewolf95 on Jun 5, 2012 20:18:40 GMT -5
Noel sounds great. early gigs, he had a hard time with Everybody's On the run and If I Had A Gun... it was his first gigs singing all the songs. but he got so much better at it. being the only one into the spotlight and all. his vocals are spot on. he can sing whatever the fuck he wants. a whole lot of fucking dimensions, if you wanna take it that way. I think Noel sounds great. They just need to up him in the mix. Sometimes its hard to hear his voice |
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Post by truefaith on Jun 6, 2012 15:11:53 GMT -5
I've listened again. If someone could point out the supposed wrong notes I'd appreciate it. From what I hear Noel's vocal delivery is basically spot on. Also. Liam's been better than his worst. But listen to the best BDI performance and then G-MEX (1997) and try and tell me that even Liam's 2011 voice would've in any way outstanding for an Oasis performance. It would have been serviceable. But that fact is...Liam isn't a patch on the singer he used to be. And that fact that he has fallen far enough that now when his best is worse than his worst had been in the 90's and people are celebrating is sad. It's nasally and pinched. I've heard some people prefer the nasally Liam voice...but I find it grating. I'm saying that Liam has vocally improved during this tour compare to the DOYS one. His voice has been better on most of gigs. On the other hand if you compare some Oasis versions of Talk tonight or HTWA on DBTT ro DOYS tour to HFB's ones, it's very obvious Noel's vocals have deteriorated, that Oasis as a band is miles away from HFB. And yet you're all celebrating HFB live like it's the best thing ever. HFB live is kind of average compare to what Oasis was. Ok they have a good setlist but that doesn't make it all. Noel sings less good than he used to in late Oasis, the drummer and the guitarist are awfull. Noel lacks a lot of charisma than his brother brought to the table. I've seen HFB live, it wasn't great at all and kind of boring. It was nice but when I think of Oasis gigs Iv'e seen there's no comparison to be made whatsoever to any level. So please stop pretending HBF is the greatest thing live since the Beatles only because they play DLBIA and you've never actually seen Oasis live. |
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Post by RocketMan on Jun 6, 2012 15:24:18 GMT -5
who's saying the HFB are the best live thing ever?
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Post by truefaith on Jun 6, 2012 15:34:14 GMT -5
who's saying the HFB are the best live thing ever? I know everyone is entitled to his opinion but there are a huge number of posts saying 'it was the best gig ever" "Noel was a god" after an HFB gig. You have people saying "oustanding version" after a crappy version of ASGOG. And then the same people are always mentioning how crap BDI is live, how Liam's voice has deteriorating. Sorry not on this tour, Liam sung way better than Noel during their respective last tour. And GDforever find it sad to notice Liam's improvement... Open your eyes people, you should all be praying for a reformation instead of finding that playing DLBIA is a reason enough to headline a festival. |
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Post by RocketMan on Jun 6, 2012 16:05:57 GMT -5
you could have the best live band in the world but if the songs are shit then the songs are shit. BDI are a technically better live band but i don't care. the atmosphere on noels gig was outstanding while it wasn't on BDIs.
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Post by truefaith on Jun 6, 2012 16:09:56 GMT -5
you could have the best live band in the world but if the songs are shit then the songs are shit. BDI are a technically better live band but i don't care. the atmosphere on noels gig was outstanding while it wasn't on BDIs. We haven't seen the same gigs then. With HFBI've personnally seen a uncharismetic frontman trying to get his voice above the mix with a bucher drummer. Since they were playing some of my favourites songs and the frontman was funny and a hero of mine I had a good time. But then I remembered that I used to see some of those songs live with an excellent live band, the greatest frontman and a Noel singing his 4 songs ( wich was enough) very well. When I think of where Noel comes from I can't say anything from HFB is "outstanding". |
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Post by RocketMan on Jun 6, 2012 16:13:00 GMT -5
you could have the best live band in the world but if the songs are shit then the songs are shit. BDI are a technically better live band but i don't care. the atmosphere on noels gig was outstanding while it wasn't on BDIs. We haven't seen the same gigs then. With HFBI've personnally seen a uncharismetic frontman trying to get his voice above the mix with a bucher drummer. Since they were playing some of my favourites songs and the frontman was funny and a hero of mine I had a good time. But then I remembered that I used to see some of those songs live with an excellent live band, the greatest frontman and a Noel singing his 4 songs ( wich was enough) very well. When I think of where Noel comes from I can't say anything from HFB is "outstanding". well thats your very own opinion. some people might see it different. it's all a matter of personal taste. you shouldn't blame people for not having your opinion |
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Post by truefaith on Jun 6, 2012 16:14:49 GMT -5
We haven't seen the same gigs then. With HFBI've personnally seen a uncharismetic frontman trying to get his voice above the mix with a bucher drummer. Since they were playing some of my favourites songs and the frontman was funny and a hero of mine I had a good time. But then I remembered that I used to see some of those songs live with an excellent live band, the greatest frontman and a Noel singing his 4 songs ( wich was enough) very well. When I think of where Noel comes from I can't say anything from HFB is "outstanding". well thats your very own opinion. some people might see it different. it's all a matter of personal taste. you shouldn't blame people for not having your opinion I don't blame people for liking HFB. I blame people for finding every thing Noel does genius, even when he sounds like crap and then spend their time insulting Liam every time he does a wrong note. |
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Post by RocketMan on Jun 6, 2012 16:24:11 GMT -5
well thats your very own opinion. some people might see it different. it's all a matter of personal taste. you shouldn't blame people for not having your opinion I don't blame people for liking HFB. I blame people for finding every thing Noel does genius, even when he sounds like crap and then spend their time insulting Liam every time he does a wrong note. who cares really. both bands are far away from what oasis was live |
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Post by gdforever on Jun 6, 2012 18:21:14 GMT -5
who's saying the HFB are the best live thing ever? No one is. Truefaith excels at arguing against things that nobody has said when he can't defend his criticism. My saying I don't hear wrong notes in ASGOG is interpreted as me thinking HFB is the best thing since the Beatles because trufaith can't defend his "wrong notes" criticism BUT if he pretends that I am saying that the song was outstanding and HFB is the best thing since the Beatles he can defend that. He's arguing with the voices in his head I think  |
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Post by underneaththesky on Jun 6, 2012 22:02:35 GMT -5
the atmosphere on noels gig was outstanding while it wasn't on BDIs. this is what really matters. |
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Post by copie on Jun 7, 2012 4:33:08 GMT -5
No Wonderwall in the set list? I can handle that.
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Post by carl80 on Jun 7, 2012 10:58:11 GMT -5
Yes  Echo Arena Please ! |
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Post by warewolf95 on Jun 7, 2012 11:35:55 GMT -5
the atmosphere on noels gig was outstanding while it wasn't on BDIs. this is what really matters. Atlanta, holy mother of mercy.... |
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Post by truefaith on Jun 7, 2012 13:27:17 GMT -5
the atmosphere on noels gig was outstanding while it wasn't on BDIs. this is what really matters. The atmosphere is what really matters? More than the music more than the band? It's a bunch of english guys singing DLBIA so loud that you can't hear Noel that matters? If the atmosphere is fun it's all a nostalgia act because Noel plays a lot of Oasis songs. I told you what a great atmosphere was, Manchester 2005. Great gig, great music, great band, great frontman and great fun crow. We're so far from it with HFB that I can't understand all this enthusiasm. It's time to admit the obvious flaws of it instead of saying "Noel is god" everytime he throws a new song in the setlist after 6 months touring the same boring one. |
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Post by truefaith on Jun 7, 2012 14:30:06 GMT -5
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah edited for clarity Go listen to your "oustanding" version of Little by Little. |
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