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Post by Bittersweet Split on Apr 27, 2012 9:47:48 GMT -5
I thought that Shoot a Hole into the Sun was pretty shite, but I'd still like to listen to the album, just cause it's Noel Gallagher.
High Flying Birds isn't nearly as good as people here seem to think, he's not actually screwing up any artistic credibility, just grow some balls and do something differently
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Post by thomas09 on Apr 27, 2012 11:58:03 GMT -5
Don't believe everything Noel says. I do believe the album will be shelved and I've thought this ever since the first setback, simply because Noel doesn't take risks which is fair enough.
However I don't believe that the AA guys are solely to blame for this. I think Noel blaming the mixing, even though he's been playing "Shoot a Hole" over the PA since the start of the tour is simply a cop out. He said he's not been around to supervise the mixing of the album yet they released Shoot A Hole and previewed "The Death..." so it doesn't make sense for him to say he's unhappy with the mix. If he was he would've never put those tracks out at all. I feel sorry for the AA guys who clearly spent a lot of time recording this album
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Post by spaneli on Apr 27, 2012 12:04:49 GMT -5
Don't believe everything Noel says. I do believe the album will be shelved and I've thought this ever since the first setback, simply because Noel doesn't take risks which is fair enough. However I don't believe that the AA guys are solely to blame for this. I think Noel blaming the mixing, even though he's been playing "Shoot a Hole" over the PA since the start of the tour is simply a cop out. He said he's not been around to supervise the mixing of the album yet they released Shoot A Hole and previewed "The Death..." so it doesn't make sense for him to say he's unhappy with the mix. If he was he would've never put those tracks out at all. I feel sorry for the AA guys who clearly spent a lot of time recording this album He said that before he left, they only got the chance to mix the 3 HFB singles together. When he left for tour, he left the rest up to AA. I've maintained that I believe the mixing problems are probably only a few tracks and not a majority of the album. I would be completely surprised if it were the majority of the album. AA couldn't have mixed it that badly. But yes, he himself specifically supervised the mixing of some the tracks, but not the whole album. He left on tour expecting AA to mix the rest and apparently they haven't mixed it to his liking. |
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Post by andymorris on Apr 27, 2012 12:41:05 GMT -5
Reason 1: Mixing is one thing but there must be something behind this: Noel probably opened his ears and came to the conclusion that it simply wasn't that exciting. Shoot a hole is fun for what, 1,30 minutes, then it's plain boring. The rest is probably the same and mixes aren't the reason. If the rest of the record is like that then it's simply DAD PSYCHEDELIA, yes i just invented a genre.
Reason 2 : HFB is highly successfull, much more than Noel thought. I guess the AA record would have been released if HFB didn't work, but now he's got a real solo career he can't take the risk of bad press or record sale failure. Like it or not, it's still important. Look at BDI...
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Post by RocketMan on Apr 27, 2012 12:53:55 GMT -5
it will come out. don't worry
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Post by thomas09 on Apr 27, 2012 13:15:07 GMT -5
Reason 1: Mixing is one thing but there must be something behind this: Noel probably opened his ears and came to the conclusion that it simply wasn't that exciting. Shoot a hole is fun for what, 1,30 minutes, then it's plain boring. The rest is probably the same and mixes aren't the reason. If the rest of the record is like that then it's simply DAD PSYCHEDELIA, yes i just invented a genre. Reason 2 : HFB is highly successfull, much more than Noel thought. I guess the AA record would have been released if HFB didn't work, but now he's got a real solo career he can't take the risk of bad press or record sale failure. Like it or not, it's still important. Look at BDI... It could be a case that he's been sitting on it so long that maybe the tracks don't excite him as much as they did originally. When we haven't heard the album it's really hard to speculate on the possible reasons why he may not release it. spaneli, do you have the interview where he states that? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2012 14:05:34 GMT -5
I thought that Shoot a Hole into the Sun was pretty shite, but I'd still like to listen to the album, just cause it's Noel Gallagher. High Flying Birds isn't nearly as good as people here seem to think, he's not actually screwing up any artistic credibility, just grow some balls and do something differently so you think Shoot a hole is shite but you want him to make more songs like it.... rightio  |
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Post by Shockmaster on Apr 27, 2012 15:02:46 GMT -5
I think it could actually a wider market of fans... It would move away from the people who are just casual fans of Oasis, and maybe to people who are into more psychedelic/space music... There's probably a big chunk of fanbases that already like Noel, but there's also probably a big chunk that think he's boring and doesn't push any boundaries... So, the AA album could appeal to them. I think it could work if AA were big in their genre but they aren't. 99% of people have never heard of them and that's because their music isn't very good. If he'd released an album with someone like The Chemical Brothers then I think it would have a lot more chance of being successful. However, Noel is a big name, and even if people don't like them, they can't really avoid him... If they see that he's releasing a boundary-pushing psychedelic album, they might give it a go... Then there's also the radio. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 27, 2012 15:13:09 GMT -5
I think it could work if AA were big in their genre but they aren't. 99% of people have never heard of them and that's because their music isn't very good. If he'd released an album with someone like The Chemical Brothers then I think it would have a lot more chance of being successful. However, Noel is a big name, and even if people don't like them, they can't really avoid him... If they see that he's releasing a boundary-pushing psychedelic album, they might give it a go... Then there's also the radio. The genre doesn't matter in my opinion. It's no different than any other album. If he releases good singles with the album, like Freaky Teeth, then people make a try at it with the album. If the singles aren't very good, then only hardcore Oasis fans will try it. Either way, the sales can't worse than those for DGSS. The hardcores will be enough for his UK/WW record sales to be at least somewhat respectable. |
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 27, 2012 19:30:23 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if it gets shelved. Very unfortunate. Looks like it may go the same path as the DIV demos for DBTT.
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Post by LlAM on Apr 28, 2012 6:00:32 GMT -5
They delayed the realese due to the success of High Flying Birds.
Releasing the album now would make no sense. It'll come when he's finished milking the NGHFB album.
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Apr 29, 2012 3:39:56 GMT -5
I thought that Shoot a Hole into the Sun was pretty shite, but I'd still like to listen to the album, just cause it's Noel Gallagher. High Flying Birds isn't nearly as good as people here seem to think, he's not actually screwing up any artistic credibility, just grow some balls and do something differently so you think Shoot a hole is shite but you want him to make more songs like it.... rightio Only if you expect every song to sound the same. I'm pretty sure that they'll do something right |
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Post by heltahskeltah85 on May 3, 2012 18:33:34 GMT -5
Questioned on the AA album: "I do not know. In its current form, I am not happy with the recordings. At first I thought we could publish it, but then the other record was so extremely successful and has grown more and more ... I realized that these unreleased recordings in the present form simply can not keep up. So I will have to work a lot on it. But now I'm touring until at least November and have no time. And then it`s Christmas again. Who knows what comes next? Maybe I'm doing something completely new, there are so many songs." www.morgenpost.de/kultur/article106241857/Fuer-Noel-Gallagher-taugt-keine-Band-mehr-etwas.htmlhmhm..seems as if he`s in serious doubts about it. No good word on it. |
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Post by mossy on May 4, 2012 5:22:28 GMT -5
Sad times.
Kinda feel sorry for The AA if this never gets released now! Bit of a waste of their time and energy.
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Post by truefaith on May 4, 2012 5:32:07 GMT -5
Noel seems to get cold feets about this. I'll be so disapointed if it never come out. It was something different finally, a real risk as an artist out f his confort zone. SAHITS sounded great, I wanted more of this. And right what a waste of time for the AA.
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Post by underneaththesky on May 4, 2012 7:08:57 GMT -5
he'll release those songs as b-sides and we'll get to have a new Noel Gallagher album a bit later... what is fucking wrong with that??!!
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Post by andymorris on May 4, 2012 8:29:02 GMT -5
Sad times. Kinda feel sorry for The AA if this never gets released now! Bit of a waste of their time and energy. They didn't deliver as producers... Noel isn't happy with the result. For the past 20 years the man has always been right, so let's say we hardly feel sorry for them. They just suck and Noel finally came to realise that. Plus frankly look at those guys, a wanna be bono and a wanna be johnny depp, i mean, WTF is Noel doing with those guys. www.mojo4music.com/blog/amorphous.jpg |
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 4, 2012 8:35:10 GMT -5
Sad times. Kinda feel sorry for The AA if this never gets released now! Bit of a waste of their time and energy. They didn't deliver as producers... Noel isn't happy with the result. For the past 20 years the man has always been right, so let's say we hardly feel sorry for them. They just suck and Noel finally came to realise that. Plus frankly look at those guys, a wanna be bono and a wanna be johnny depp, i mean, WTF is Noel doing with those guys. www.mojo4music.com/blog/amorphous.jpgHow do you know they didn't deliver? You heard the tunes? 'For the past 20 years the man has always been right' Oh dear lord, hahahahaha |
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Post by truefaith on May 4, 2012 8:48:36 GMT -5
Sad times. Kinda feel sorry for The AA if this never gets released now! Bit of a waste of their time and energy. They didn't deliver as producers... Noel isn't happy with the result. For the past 20 years the man has always been right, so let's say we hardly feel sorry for them. They just suck and Noel finally came to realise that. Plus frankly look at those guys, a wanna be bono and a wanna be johnny depp, i mean, WTF is Noel doing with those guys. www.mojo4music.com/blog/amorphous.jpgYou're jocking right? You can't actually be serious there? |
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Post by Wolf on May 4, 2012 20:02:03 GMT -5
As long as we, at some point, get Freaky Teeth, I don't care! |
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Post by matt on May 5, 2012 12:16:25 GMT -5
Oh dear Noel, what a bottler you are.
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Post by wooboos on May 11, 2012 6:30:37 GMT -5
interesting that the AA chaps we credited as song writers on SAHITTS, surely they stand to lose a great deal financially if the record is not put out. they must be able to have a say. I wouldnt be surprised if the record is rebranded somehow, AA ft NG or something else, and is given a low key release.
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Post by jupi on May 11, 2012 8:27:27 GMT -5
Questioned on the AA album: " I do not know. In its current form, I am not happy with the recordings. At first I thought we could publish it, but then the other record was so extremely successful and has grown more and more ... I realized that these unreleased recordings in the present form simply can not keep up. So I will have to work a lot on it. But now I'm touring until at least November and have no time. And then it`s Christmas again. Who knows what comes next? Maybe I'm doing something completely new, there are so many songs." www.morgenpost.de/kultur/article106241857/Fuer-Noel-Gallagher-taugt-keine-Band-mehr-etwas.htmlhmhm..seems as if he`s in serious doubts about it. No good word on it. So it seems that when the AA album was done it was all good and ready to go. Then they released HFB album and it was a lot bigger thing than Noel thought at the first place. Now he doesn't want to dissapoint the big crowd with an album that is just alright, he wants it to be great. So he either comes up with a great HFB album with brand new songs or he releases the AA album that is strong enough to keep the flame burning. That's what I think. |
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Post by bandontherun on May 11, 2012 10:47:38 GMT -5
As long as we, at some point, get Freaky Teeth, I don't care! Right!!! He should finish the tour and release a Christmas EP with Freaky Teeth,.....like a "thank you fans" thing!! . I know, Noel I not that kind of guy, but maybe he will after that major success of HFB!!! He should drop the AA thing and start working on HFB 2 mid 2013 before he has to write new Oasis songs for 2015 !!!  |
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Post by Rolo on May 11, 2012 11:09:47 GMT -5
At the end of the day he's completely bottled it, that's all there is to it.
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