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Post by Clint on Apr 25, 2006 5:15:59 GMT -5
on a scale of 1-10?
Me? 6. Technically he's mediocre, although he is a brilliant songwriter. He doesn't seem to know many scales or anything. His work seems to be more or less lifted from stuff that's already been written.
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 25, 2006 10:10:57 GMT -5
somewhere between 5 - 7.
I love his guitar solo during the soundcheck, jamming...
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Post by novascotialad on Apr 25, 2006 10:30:31 GMT -5
7
hes always said that he is no lead guitarist....
i think sometimes he doent get enough respect as a guitarist tho...
most of oasis' tunes, new and old, are based around chords more than riffs anyway.... for the band he's in i dont think i matters if hes a great technical player or not, cause the tunes he writes dont really need alll that nifty work. the riffs he writes are one of 2 things, they are either ripped off or as simple as fuck, sounds good to me.
for anyone reading this that actually plays guitar, when you watch noel and gem together, you can see that gems abilities rise above noels....
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Post by mimmihopps on Apr 25, 2006 10:38:47 GMT -5
7 hes always said that he is no lead guitarist.... i think sometimes he doent get enough respect as a guitarist tho... most of oasis' tunes, new and old, are based around chords more than riffs anyway.... for the band he's in i dont think i matters if hes a great technical player or not, cause the tunes he writes dont really need alll that nifty work. the riffs he writes are one of 2 things, they are either ripped off or as simple as fuck, sounds good to me. for anyone reading this that actually plays guitar, when you watch noel and gem together, you can see that gems abilities rise above noels.... Agreed. What do you think of Andy? He's a brilliant guitarist as well IMO. |
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Post by seanppp on Apr 25, 2006 10:46:01 GMT -5
Rating Noel: He summed it up best, "rudimentary."
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Apr 25, 2006 11:12:27 GMT -5
pentatonic scales....
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Post by supersonic1983 on Apr 25, 2006 16:52:03 GMT -5
If you want 20 minute long flash bastard guitar solos go and watch The Darkness.
Noel's guitar riffs and solos may be basic, but they slip into some of the greatest songs ever written.
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Post by irishmick06 on Apr 25, 2006 18:02:19 GMT -5
put it this way id rather be a shit guitar player and amazing songwriter, than a shit songwriter and amazing guitar player.
noel rules, and he doesnt get enough credit anyway. live forever, supernova, DLBIA, anyone?
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Post by supersonic1983 on Apr 25, 2006 19:54:07 GMT -5
put it this way id rather be a shit guitar player and amazing songwriter Songs have the power to change peoples lives. Technical ability is great, but without a platform it's pointless. |
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Post by masterplan200 on Apr 25, 2006 21:41:00 GMT -5
9, no Mikael Akerfeldt/John Petrucci/ Peter Lingren (only 3 guitarists that get the 10 from me)
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Post by heffer on Apr 26, 2006 4:07:42 GMT -5
7 - 8
Of course he's technical not the best. This wouldn't fit to Oasis' own style. I mean, it would probably sound like fuckin' Santana or something. Although he's one of the best musicans I know.
Hef
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Post by wankinginthebushes on Apr 26, 2006 4:19:27 GMT -5
Are you having a laugh?! seriously! what drugs are you taking? whats the criteria for being a good guitarist? how fast he can play? how many chords he knows? if thats the case, go back to listening to your eddie van halen records with yer spandex on. Of course he knows fuckin scales!  he has made some amazing songs that will last for decades to come. Yeah he pinches a few riffs, but who doesnt? and its not as if he does it on every song! Noel Gallagher is an amazing musician, first class on drums, guitar, bass, singing, piano and producer. He writes catchy as fuck songs which are simple. You dont have to write a stair way to heaven to be classed as an amazing guitarist. Im sure he could write a song like that if thats what Oasis was about but theyre not. Same as Tom Delonge from Blink 182. I dont like his music personally but you have to admit he has come up with some amazingly catchy songs and riffs which have probably sold far more albums than Oasis. In my book, coming up with a simple riff that is catchy and loved my millions is far better than some long winded techincal fret wank which is only a few peoples cuppa tea. But hey, thats just my opinion |
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Post by novascotialad on Apr 26, 2006 16:51:17 GMT -5
"fret wank",,,, nice 1... im still havin a laff at that one
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Post by keeso on Apr 28, 2006 9:38:38 GMT -5
Are you having a laugh?! seriously! what drugs are you taking? whats the criteria for being a good guitarist? how fast he can play? how many chords he knows? if thats the case, go back to listening to your eddie van halen records with yer spandex on. Of course he knows fuckin scales! he has made some amazing songs that will last for decades to come. Yeah he pinches a few riffs, but who doesnt? and its not as if he does it on every song! Noel Gallagher is an amazing musician, first class on drums, guitar, bass, singing, piano and producer. I totally agree. Speed doesn't make you a good soloist, quality does. Noel can make a very emotional statement with a few notes from the pentatonic scale. That's art. Speed is just a matter of physical ability. Van Halen had speed, but I can only think of one solo (Running with the Devil) that has any emotional connection for me. He bores me. The solo to "Sunday Morning Call" does more for me than any of Eddies hammer-ons! # out of 4 of the Beatles were not great musician's technically, but they could write songs that were better than any guitar virtuoso's. Keeso |
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Post by Clint on Apr 30, 2006 6:23:12 GMT -5
I know noel knows pentonic scales and shit, but I doubt he ever got too into the information.
I know people who are technically good that know tons of information about the scales and etc rather than just how to play them and harmonize them with a chord progression.
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Post by songbird08 on May 11, 2006 18:46:58 GMT -5
put it this way id rather be a shit guitar player and amazing songwriter Songs have the power to change peoples lives. Technical ability is great, but without a platform it's pointless. I agree and I really don't think it matters. I remember Noel saying on the DM DVD (the extras) about people trying to tab his music, but he didn't even know what the chords were. To me, that's talent. Writing a song like Live Forever and not even knowing the names of the chords. Oasis are more famous for their attitude and great lyrics and songs not guitar ability or complicated music. That's why I like them, it's basic (but classic) rock 'n' roll, not Mozart. |
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Post by SuperSonicSolos on May 24, 2006 8:06:47 GMT -5
i think Angus Young is the Best Guitar player ever but noel has just something most people dont he makes solos that make a song better when u listen to oasis song and when you sing along u end up singn the solo fink dats class
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Post by ev on May 25, 2006 13:54:05 GMT -5
I'd rate him somewhere around a 7-8. He has some pretty techinal songs Turn Up The Sun, Fucking In The Bushes, Acquiesce, and Champagne Supernova; he's terred up those songs live, (except FITB). I've been playin guitar for about 7 years, and you have to realize how basics can be brilliant if put in the right spot, and I think Noel's really good at that. Just because his songs aren't the hardest doesn't make him a bad guitarist. Nothin The Beatles have ever done was extremely difficult, but George Harrison is regarded as one of the best modern guitarist of all time.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2006 0:22:31 GMT -5
I'd say a 6, not counting him as a song writer. He's no Jimmy Page(Who proved himself to be a good all around guitarist with a unique style)or Hendrix(See comment about Pagey), but Oasis's songs don't really need flashy guitar solos. A good example is Champagne Supernova. The guitar solos aren't the main focus, it's the overall feel. Not only that, he has some pretty creative solos and can make average looking solos(DLBIA for one)sound amazing.
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Post by angiegallagher on May 26, 2006 0:38:38 GMT -5
He have said that he's a "rudimentary" guitarrist... so, I agree with him. I think he's not a very good technically, but he's a genius so the rest doesn't matter. He had written a bunch of incredible songs.
Also, I don't like those scales about rating a guitarrist by his/her technical skills. I mean, I think a good rock musician need to be talented and skilled but if he don't have the capacity of involve his souls in his interpretation he's dead.
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Post by brumoscardo on May 26, 2006 2:54:34 GMT -5
I'd rate him somewhere around a 7-8. He has some pretty techinal songs Turn Up The Sun, Fucking In The Bushes, Acquiesce, and Champagne Supernova; he's terred up those songs live, (except FITB). I've been playin guitar for about 7 years, and you have to realize how basics can be brilliant if put in the right spot, and I think Noel's really good at that. Just because his songs aren't the hardest doesn't make him a bad guitarist. Nothin The Beatles have ever done was extremely difficult, but George Harrison is regarded as one of the best modern guitarist of all time. I'm signing at the bottom of this opinion. I didn't come in this topic earlier so everyone had some great point but this what I agree. And I'd like to add that his effects and the sound he puts in his guitar, that's bloody difficult to copy. Noel's one of a kind and he deserves some credit ffs you bashing ppl. |
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on May 31, 2006 13:12:50 GMT -5
It doesn't matter how technically skilled you are. How fast you can play. What scales you know.
He plays rockin stuff man. His melodies are great, his riffs are good, and his rhythm playing is very very solid.
Just listen to his jams in live versions of Gas Panic! or Champagne Supernova....
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