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Post by spaneli on Dec 22, 2011 10:48:59 GMT -5
If you want to keep making music without blowing your own money, it's kind of about record sales. It's really more about touring than anything else, but it still has to do with money. Connie Mack once said about baseball that baseball was too much of a game to be considered a business, but it was too much of a business to be considered a game. I think that can also be applied to music many times. |
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Post by mossy on Dec 22, 2011 13:31:46 GMT -5
"It's not all about record sales, it's about being real." - LG What does 'being real' mean? |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Dec 22, 2011 14:39:44 GMT -5
"It's not all about record sales, it's about being real." - LG What does 'being real' mean? You would have to ask Liam Gallagher that back in 2000 when he appeared on TRL. It was just meant as a funny post from a very amusing moment in MTV's history. |
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Post by mossy on Dec 28, 2011 5:30:58 GMT -5
So how is he doing in the midweeks?
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Post by gdforever on Dec 28, 2011 11:06:00 GMT -5
There's not been any midweeks so far this week.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 28, 2011 17:10:44 GMT -5
There's not been any midweeks so far this week. He might not chart. I do not see it anywhere on Itunes. |
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Post by GIMH on Dec 28, 2011 21:03:04 GMT -5
Noel didn't need to establish a fanbase in the UK, come on. He did that in 1994. Just like Liam did huh? That's why DGSS sold bucket loads in the UK.  Noel didn't need to establish a fanbase in the UK, come on. He did that in 1994. Of course he needed to establish a fanbase. BDI showed that the entirity of the Oasis fanbase were not going to follow the Gallaghers where ever they go. It's not unheard of for artists that leave bands to flop when going solo...even talented members Neither Noel or Liam are guaranteeds a viable career post-Oasis. To assume any of their "success" should dismissed as inevitable isn't fair to all the hard work they have all put in. I think it'll chart top 30 maybe top 20. It'll chart for the first time the last week of the year. From what I am given to understand...that week is usually pretty low for album sales? I would assume the single chart sales are similar? I don't think it'll be huge sales but I think that he'll get some benefit for having a devoted fanbase. Liam comparisons are a dud here. Noel has always been the one with the respect in the UK. I think it's wrong that that's the case, but it is what it is, and the fact of the matter is that people who had witnessed zero promotion were more interested in Noel's project than Liam's. Roll your eyes at me all you want, it's true. |
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Post by spaneli on Dec 28, 2011 21:12:29 GMT -5
Just like Liam did huh? That's why DGSS sold bucket loads in the UK. Of course he needed to establish a fanbase. BDI showed that the entirity of the Oasis fanbase were not going to follow the Gallaghers where ever they go. It's not unheard of for artists that leave bands to flop when going solo...even talented members Neither Noel or Liam are guaranteeds a viable career post-Oasis. To assume any of their "success" should dismissed as inevitable isn't fair to all the hard work they have all put in. I think it'll chart top 30 maybe top 20. It'll chart for the first time the last week of the year. From what I am given to understand...that week is usually pretty low for album sales? I would assume the single chart sales are similar? I don't think it'll be huge sales but I think that he'll get some benefit for having a devoted fanbase. More respect doesn't lead to you having an automatically more sizable fanbase, nor more sales. It just means that less people believe your an ass. There's a difference between actually buying an album and having respect for a person. It helps, but it doesn't matter. I respect Tony Bennett, but I've never bought by him. And singles are part of promotion which in the end is my point. The singles did help toward his sales and they did help him to establish a fanbase. If he had done zero promotion he would not have been that much better off than Liam in terms of commercial success. If he had a fanbase that he could count on then he'd do a Radiohead and barely promote any album. Instead, he just would have released it out of blue knowing that it would easily chart at #1. So yes, it true that Liam needed promotion, but so did Noel. Noel put that promotion forward by releasing some good singles and promoting them which in turn helped album sales. If he had a sizable fanbase then he wouldn't need to do so. You prove my point while trying to disprove it. |
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Post by jason1977 on Dec 29, 2011 9:34:07 GMT -5
Single is not to be seen anywhere in the charts piss poor
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 1, 2012 18:55:08 GMT -5
Single is not to be seen anywhere in the charts piss poor Yeah I don't see it in the top 100 either but should we be surprised? Anybody who likes Noel Gallagher has probably already boughten the HFB album not to mention the single has been out in the US and elsewhere since September. Nothing to really offer fans except one b-side that has most likely been heavily pirated on the internet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2012 19:50:10 GMT -5
I forgot to buy it.
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Post by Stemot on Jan 2, 2012 5:04:11 GMT -5
I'm not buying it. Like someone else said, I already have the album and I don't consider the B-Side good enough to warrant spending money on the single.
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Post by oasismuse on Jan 2, 2012 6:55:32 GMT -5
Even What a life outsold it last week, being one place above it on the alternative chart.
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Post by mossy on Jan 2, 2012 10:57:24 GMT -5
Ouch!
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Post by GIMH on Jan 2, 2012 17:11:40 GMT -5
I guess the people who were buying the Beady Eye singles post-album release are the same ones who bought IIHAG on import. I was going to buy it again anyway but kinda forgot with Christmas and everything.
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Post by mossy on Jan 3, 2012 3:41:43 GMT -5
The Dream On single had better have a new b-side (or two) and a bit of promotion to have any hope of charting!
Hopefully they round up all the bonus tracks and remixes floating around and make it an EP - more fans would actually buy it and it'll be ineligible to chart saving another 'charting' outside the top 100.
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jan 3, 2012 3:56:30 GMT -5
is the case/realease/disc the same as the import?
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 3, 2012 10:26:10 GMT -5
I'd much rather prefer the High Flying Birds album to remain in the UK Top 20 for another couple of months than have IIHAG storm the charts. The album is having a really nice run and it should sell consistently with the arena tour coming up.
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Post by mossy on Jan 3, 2012 11:13:01 GMT -5
is the case/realease/disc the same as the import? I believe so, yes. |
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Post by gdforever on Jan 3, 2012 11:23:24 GMT -5
Horrible time to release a single if you are an artist that hardly storms the charts anyways and is more reliant on physical sales than most and has already released the item as an import over 2 months ago.
Wonder if it'll pop onto the charts at all next week since the Radio 1, Radio 2, and Graham Norton are all then.
Noel hasn't promoted this single at all yet in the UK, has he?
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Post by gdforever on Jan 3, 2012 11:26:23 GMT -5
I'd much rather prefer the High Flying Birds album to remain in the UK Top 20 for another couple of months than have IIHAG storm the charts. The album is having a really nice run and it should sell consistently with the arena tour coming up. I think part of the reason that the album has stayed steady is because of the steady performance of WAL. The best thing for the HFB album would be for IIHAG to take off, IMO. |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Jan 3, 2012 11:49:03 GMT -5
I'd much rather prefer the High Flying Birds album to remain in the UK Top 20 for another couple of months than have IIHAG storm the charts. The album is having a really nice run and it should sell consistently with the arena tour coming up. I think part of the reason that the album has stayed steady is because of the steady performance of WAL. The best thing for the HFB album would be for IIHAG to take off, IMO. Agreed. WAL was a perfect single to promote the album long term. People have responded very well to it. I'm loving how well it's done despite not going top 10. |
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