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Post by Leezy2 on Nov 23, 2011 11:30:50 GMT -5
Just noticed on Wellers website that Noel (as well as Graham Coxon) will feature on his new album 'Sonik Kicks'... www.paulweller.com/news.php?item=441Loving the sound of the new track 'Around The Lake'
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Post by songbirdsally on Nov 23, 2011 11:38:27 GMT -5
Weller doesn't want to wait 20 years to perform a 'classic' album, he'd rather do it here and now - no need for nostalgia to play its part. A bit of a dig at The Gallaghers?
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Post by mossy on Nov 23, 2011 12:50:06 GMT -5
There's been a trend recently for bands to play classic albums in full. Or even reform for that reason. See both Metallica and Black Sabbath at Download this year. More of a general dig than a Gallagher-specific one I think.
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Post by Leezy2 on Nov 23, 2011 14:36:36 GMT -5
A bit of a dig at The Gallaghers? Doubt it, probably more a dig at the Stone Roses for reforming, think he said recently he'd never reform The Jam unless he desperately needed the money... which he says at this moment in time he doesn't. www.nme.com/news/paul-weller/60313
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Post by dobbins on Nov 23, 2011 18:54:55 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days.
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Post by Wolf on Nov 23, 2011 20:12:41 GMT -5
Weller doesn't want to wait 20 years to perform a 'classic' album, he'd rather do it here and now - no need for nostalgia to play its part. A bit of a dig at The Gallaghers? Definitely a dig at The Roses I'd say.
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Post by martinpaul on Nov 24, 2011 7:12:19 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. Have you ever been to a Weller gig? He broke up The Jam sometime around 81/82 (can't be bothered to check) Certainly didn't play Jam songs regularly until the Days of Speed tour which was around 2001. Even these days if you go to a Weller gig it is over 2 1/2 hours long with over half of that songs from his latest album, some from his solo back catalouge with maybe 5-6 songs from his Style Council and Jam career combined. Noel on the other hand plays 9 Oasis songs 18 months after leaving the band out of what 15-16 songs lasting less than 90 minutes. Noel may have had more commercial success but there is no comparing the 2 as artists, Weller has been an influential artist since 1977 stretching himself and releasing double albums, one off singles collaborations etc... Noel was successful for 3-4 years covering DM/MG and BHN certainly hasn't changed, evolved or strecthed himself artistically and influenced a small number of bands.
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Post by carl80 on Nov 24, 2011 9:23:20 GMT -5
Just noticed on Wellers website that Noel (as well as Graham Coxon) will feature on his new album 'Sonik Kicks'... www.paulweller.com/news.php?item=441Loving the sound of the new track 'Around The Lake' Nice mate, Thanks for this. Great news.
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Post by mossy on Nov 24, 2011 9:31:19 GMT -5
Weller is still awesome live. No mean feat when you're an old codger.
I find his anti nostalgia schtick amusing though - his fashion sense is, and always has been, stuck in the 60s. He was retro back in '77!
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Post by headshrinker84 on Nov 24, 2011 9:52:39 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. Have you ever been to a Weller gig? He broke up The Jam sometime around 81/82 (can't be bothered to check) Certainly didn't play Jam songs regularly until the Days of Speed tour which was around 2001. Even these days if you go to a Weller gig it is over 2 1/2 hours long with over half of that songs from his latest album, some from his solo back catalouge with maybe 5-6 songs from his Style Council and Jam career combined. Noel on the other hand plays 9 Oasis songs 18 months after leaving the band out of what 15-16 songs lasting less than 90 minutes. Noel may have had more commercial success but there is no comparing the 2 as artists, Weller has been an influential artist since 1977 stretching himself and releasing double albums, one off singles collaborations etc... Noel was successful for 3-4 years covering DM/MG and BHN certainly hasn't changed, evolved or strecthed himself artistically and influenced a small number of bands. Hi mr Weller.
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Post by Leezy2 on Nov 24, 2011 9:53:44 GMT -5
Weller is still awesome live. No mean feat when you're an old codger. I find his anti nostalgia schtick amusing though - his fashion sense is, and always has been, stuck in the 60s. He was retro back in '77! True, but Weller always looks and dresses cool. Give it another 15-20 years and Liam will still be wearing 60s mod style clothing (complete with the green Parka). Weller is an innovator (musically), he doesn't wanna keep making the same record praying that it turns out as successful as Stanley Road. He's making the music he wants to make, a mixture of everything he likes, whether it be Jazz, Soul, Punk, Psychedelic Rock..., its really good to see him getting the recognition for taking those risks. All those saying Noel is afraid to try something new, just look at his next album, he's making a 'Psychedelic Electronic' album! He was never gonna do something that different with his first solo album, he wanted to establish himself first and please the fans...
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Post by J.B on Nov 24, 2011 11:40:43 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. Ignorant cretin
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Post by martinpaul on Nov 25, 2011 7:51:09 GMT -5
Weller is still awesome live. No mean feat when you're an old codger. I find his anti nostalgia schtick amusing though - his fashion sense is, and always has been, stuck in the 60s. He was retro back in '77! True, but Weller always looks and dresses cool. Give it another 15-20 years and Liam will still be wearing 60s mod style clothing (complete with the green Parka). Weller is an innovator (musically), he doesn't wanna keep making the same record praying that it turns out as successful as Stanley Road. He's making the music he wants to make, a mixture of everything he likes, whether it be Jazz, Soul, Punk, Psychedelic Rock..., its really good to see him getting the recognition for taking those risks. All those saying Noel is afraid to try something new, just look at his next album, he's making a 'Psychedelic Electronic' album! He was never gonna do something that different with his first solo album, he wanted to establish himself first and please the fans... Noel isn't actually doing anything different though is he? He has written the same old stuff but given it to AA to make 'different' just like the remix's come the end of DOYS
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Post by Leezy2 on Nov 25, 2011 10:49:54 GMT -5
Noel isn't actually doing anything different though is he? He has written the same old stuff but given it to AA to make 'different' just like the remix's come the end of DOYS Don't think its as simple as Noel just giving AA a few tracks and letting them get on with it, he's obviously having more input into it himself but letting them add the experimental touch. Either way he'll be taking the risk by putting it out as a full album under his own name, not just as extra tracks on a bonus disc
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2011 1:21:24 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. You should probably do your research.
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Post by dobbins on Nov 26, 2011 11:34:44 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. Have you ever been to a Weller gig? He broke up The Jam sometime around 81/82 (can't be bothered to check) Certainly didn't play Jam songs regularly until the Days of Speed tour which was around 2001. Even these days if you go to a Weller gig it is over 2 1/2 hours long with over half of that songs from his latest album, some from his solo back catalouge with maybe 5-6 songs from his Style Council and Jam career combined. Noel on the other hand plays 9 Oasis songs 18 months after leaving the band out of what 15-16 songs lasting less than 90 minutes. Noel may have had more commercial success but there is no comparing the 2 as artists, Weller has been an influential artist since 1977 stretching himself and releasing double albums, one off singles collaborations etc... Noel was successful for 3-4 years covering DM/MG and BHN certainly hasn't changed, evolved or strecthed himself artistically and influenced a small number of bands. Yeah, seen weller twice. I was merely pointing out the contradiction between him happily playing the old stuff but not wanting to reform the old bands. People want to hear the old stuff, especially in weller's case as his last few solo albums have been a bit hit and miss.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 13:14:16 GMT -5
Have you ever been to a Weller gig? He broke up The Jam sometime around 81/82 (can't be bothered to check) Certainly didn't play Jam songs regularly until the Days of Speed tour which was around 2001. Even these days if you go to a Weller gig it is over 2 1/2 hours long with over half of that songs from his latest album, some from his solo back catalouge with maybe 5-6 songs from his Style Council and Jam career combined. Noel on the other hand plays 9 Oasis songs 18 months after leaving the band out of what 15-16 songs lasting less than 90 minutes. Noel may have had more commercial success but there is no comparing the 2 as artists, Weller has been an influential artist since 1977 stretching himself and releasing double albums, one off singles collaborations etc... Noel was successful for 3-4 years covering DM/MG and BHN certainly hasn't changed, evolved or strecthed himself artistically and influenced a small number of bands. Yeah, seen weller twice. I was merely pointing out the contradiction between him happily playing the old stuff but not wanting to reform the old bands. People want to hear the old stuff, especially in weller's case as his last few solo albums have been a bit hit and miss. You mean 22 Dreams and Wake Up The Nation?
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Post by gdforever on Nov 27, 2011 13:45:59 GMT -5
Yeah, seen weller twice. I was merely pointing out the contradiction between him happily playing the old stuff but not wanting to reform the old bands. People want to hear the old stuff, especially in weller's case as his last few solo albums have been a bit hit and miss. You mean 22 Dreams and Wake Up The Nation? I think he is delerious...or living in a parallel universe and typing to us from 5 years ago...
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 27, 2011 13:56:15 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. Wrong. I've been a huge fan of The Jam and Weller for years and years, but I'd enjoy if he wouldn't play any of The Jam songs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2011 0:32:35 GMT -5
You mean 22 Dreams and Wake Up The Nation? I think he is delerious...or living in a parallel universe and typing to us from 5 years ago... Seriously... Weller's last two albums have been his best since Stanley Road.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 28, 2011 0:59:13 GMT -5
I think he is delerious...or living in a parallel universe and typing to us from 5 years ago... Seriously... Weller's last two albums have been his best since Stanley Road. Wholeheartedly agree
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 28, 2011 1:43:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the information, Louise.
Hope to see him in Holland again next year.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 0:41:18 GMT -5
The Attic sounds a lot like Fast Car/Slow Traffic which is a killer tune. Hopefully he goes beyond New York and LA for an American tour, but I'll happily go to NYC to see him.
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Post by liamgallagher1992 on Nov 30, 2011 21:21:49 GMT -5
Weller won't reform the Jam but he'll happily play loads of their songs which is probably the only reason most people turn to his gigs these days. Have you ever been to a Weller gig? He broke up The Jam sometime around 81/82 (can't be bothered to check) Certainly didn't play Jam songs regularly until the Days of Speed tour which was around 2001. Even these days if you go to a Weller gig it is over 2 1/2 hours long with over half of that songs from his latest album, some from his solo back catalouge with maybe 5-6 songs from his Style Council and Jam career combined. Noel on the other hand plays 9 Oasis songs 18 months after leaving the band out of what 15-16 songs lasting less than 90 minutes. Noel may have had more commercial success but there is no comparing the 2 as artists, Weller has been an influential artist since 1977 stretching himself and releasing double albums, one off singles collaborations etc... Noel was successful for 3-4 years covering DM/MG and BHN certainly hasn't changed, evolved or strecthed himself artistically and influenced a small number of bands.
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Post by mkoasis on Dec 1, 2011 0:21:09 GMT -5
I think he is delerious...or living in a parallel universe and typing to us from 5 years ago... Seriously... Weller's last two albums have been his best since Stanley Road. I'm still warming up to Waking Up the Nation but 22 Dreams is an outstanding album, definitely my favourite Weller album.
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