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Post by sebi.white on Nov 12, 2011 9:53:10 GMT -5
NME: Have you heard Noel's album? Do you like it? Gem: Well, I haven't heard the album, but I've heard bits...
Anybody else get a bit sentimental when seeing Noel and Gem from '06, then there's that American dude with the slightly annoying hairdo up on stage with NGHFB? Feels weird!
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Post by desmond on Nov 12, 2011 11:01:28 GMT -5
Not as weird as watching Gem in Noel´s spot back in the 2000 tour ;D
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 12, 2011 11:07:33 GMT -5
Not really. Being an oasis fan you get used to background members changing.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2011 11:14:32 GMT -5
Not really. Being an oasis fan you get used to background members changing. I used to think the same, but hearing how bland Noel's current band sound you realise that someone like gem was actually quite an important cog to the machine.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 12, 2011 17:02:30 GMT -5
Not really. Being an oasis fan you get used to background members changing. I used to think the same, but hearing how bland Noel's current band sound you realise that someone like gem was actually quite an important cog to the machine. Again, the youtube and live tv performances do not do Noel or the band justice. Everything sounded immense last night. That being said, I do think Gem is superior and would make it even that much better.
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Post by Emil (AKA... The Mexican!) on Nov 12, 2011 17:31:34 GMT -5
I really really really miss Gem playing with Noel. I think they fit together like a puzzle and having Gem in the Birds would be awesome. I absolutely love all the High Flying Birds members and I think Noel did a great job in picking them, EXCEPT the guitar player. I think he doesn't fit.
I mean, drummer is a fucking beast (in a good way), bass player is absolutely cool and does great harmonies and keyboardist is essential to how good the band is sounding and has done a great job specially in acoustic performances. The guitar player, in the other hand, is a bit lame in my opinion.
To me this is specially noticeable in LBL and DLBIA. Gem had absolutetly perfected playing theses songs and sounded perfect, specially on the solos. This new guy is trying to change them, and I don't like how he has done it.
This might be also because he is the one who has rehearsed and played with them the shortest, I think.
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 12, 2011 17:52:26 GMT -5
Funny thing, if you think about it, Gem is the only Oasis member Noel seemed to really like. I mean he sacked McCarool, did'nt really care for Guigsy, I think he liked Bonehead but didn't really car either, he sacked Alan and he is obviously angry at Andy. And of course I don't mention Liam, that's another story.
Gem and Noel were realy complementary on stage and I think Noel respected him very much an stil does. Maybe it's the main reason he'll never say a bad thing about BDI...
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 12, 2011 17:55:46 GMT -5
Funny thing, if you think about it, Gem is the only Oasis member Noel seemed to really like. I mean he sacked McCarool, did'nt really care for Guigsy, I think he liked Bonehead but didn't really car either, he sacked Alan and he is obviously angry at Andy. come on man. between 93-98 he was in a band with his best mates from manchester. they did everything. drugs women, beer and rock music. he loved everyone from this time. but after they left the big times were over and the friendships changed.
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 12, 2011 17:59:58 GMT -5
Funny thing, if you think about it, Gem is the only Oasis member Noel seemed to really like. I mean he sacked McCarool, did'nt really care for Guigsy, I think he liked Bonehead but didn't really car either, he sacked Alan and he is obviously angry at Andy. come on man. between 93-98 he was in a band with his best mates from manchester. they did everything. drugs women, beer and rock music. he loved everyone from this time. but after they left the big times were over and the friendships changed. They weren't his best mate, they were Liam's mates. He surely liked them back then but since he didn't seem to. I mean he wrote a song for Bonehead but then said he had spoken with him and Guigsy in total an hour in his life, so... Whereas he still really likes Gem and he's still friend with him. If you prefer, Gem is the only Oasis member Noel still considers as a friend.
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Post by sebi.white on Nov 12, 2011 18:25:40 GMT -5
Yeah Mike Rowe is fantastic, great to see him back and looking/sounding brilliant Jeremy's great, he's got a funny style, in his kind of "spanking" the drums - looks funny The bass player's cool I guess, but the guitar player, grrrrr. Haha he got the solo wrong on the Radio 2 thing. Gem's being oblivious to the album is a bit sad though! Wot 'appened there
Noel Gem Terry Jay ... Scott McLeod hahaha
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 0:23:41 GMT -5
I agree, the new guitarist doesn't match up to Gem's playing. In particular, his fills in Don't Look Back In Anger are pretty weak; he doesn't even do that really high bend after "please don't put your life in the hands..."! It's a minor thing, I know, but it bothers me!
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Nov 13, 2011 4:19:13 GMT -5
that was the answer to my question in nme
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 5:50:41 GMT -5
Gem's obviously lying about not listening to the album. No idea why.
Noel's current guitarist is TERRIBLE.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 13, 2011 6:07:00 GMT -5
Not really. Being an oasis fan you get used to background members changing. I used to think the same, but hearing how bland Noel's current band sound you realise that someone like gem was actually quite an important cog to the machine. Having seen both the new band live and oasis in 2009 I can tell you it makes absolutely no difference to the crowds enjoyment of the gig. Noel's guitarist is new, give him a bit of time. Gem is extremely overrated on these boards... I guess it's because he's million miles ahead of barre chord bonehead but he's not an exceptional guitarist. Just good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 6:30:44 GMT -5
but the guitar player, grrrrr. Haha he got the solo wrong on the Radio 2 thing. er, it's called 'humour'. noel fucked up the solo, live on tv broadcast, so jokingly 'b'amed' it on the guitarist for the benefit of radio listeners.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 13, 2011 6:37:03 GMT -5
I used to think the same, but hearing how bland Noel's current band sound you realise that someone like gem was actually quite an important cog to the machine. Having seen both the new band live and oasis in 2009 I can tell you it makes absolutely no difference to the crowds enjoyment of the gig. Noel's guitarist is new, give him a bit of time. Gem is extremely overrated on these boards... I guess it's because he's million miles ahead of barre chord bonehead but he's not an exceptional guitarist. Just good. I didn't think it would make any difference if you were actually at the gig. But to watch them on tv they seem pretty average to me. Wouldn't say Gem is an incredible guitarist tbh, but him and Noel worked well together and they produced a great live sound.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Nov 13, 2011 6:45:33 GMT -5
but the guitar player, grrrrr. Haha he got the solo wrong on the Radio 2 thing. er, it's called 'humour'. noel fucked up the solo, live on tv broadcast, so jokingly 'b'amed' it on the guitarist for the benefit of radio listeners. Really? Noel plays guitar solos live? I was pretty sure his guitarist did them all.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 13, 2011 7:07:15 GMT -5
Having seen both the new band live and oasis in 2009 I can tell you it makes absolutely no difference to the crowds enjoyment of the gig. Noel's guitarist is new, give him a bit of time. Gem is extremely overrated on these boards... I guess it's because he's million miles ahead of barre chord bonehead but he's not an exceptional guitarist. Just good. I didn't think it would make any difference if you were actually at the gig. But to watch them on tv they seem pretty average to me. Wouldn't say Gem is an incredible guitarist tbh, but him and Noel worked well together and they produced a great live sound. Well being at the gigs is what matters for me so there's no point going any further. The new guitarist was brought into the game late iirc, give him some time. He's had a good career as a session musician so he can't be too bad. Give him a few months and he'll be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2011 7:59:52 GMT -5
er, it's called 'humour'. noel fucked up the solo, live on tv broadcast, so jokingly 'b'amed' it on the guitarist for the benefit of radio listeners. Really? Noel plays guitar solos live? I was pretty sure his guitarist did them all. yes, really. did you watch the bbc broadcast? I did.
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Post by mememe26 on Nov 14, 2011 18:00:23 GMT -5
Gem is speakin' balls imo. As is Noel about not listenin' to the Beady Eye album. They are music lovers, music fanatics and they are tryin' to say they haven't listened to someone who they've been in a band with for years new album, of course they fuckin' have!
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Post by thedon on Nov 15, 2011 18:30:14 GMT -5
Gem is speakin' balls imo. As is Noel about not listenin' to the Beady Eye album. They are music lovers, music fanatics and they are tryin' to say they haven't listened to someone who they've been in a band with for years new album, of course they fuckin' have! Maybe it was a little dig at Noel. He's not listened to ours so I've not listened to his.
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Post by mossy on Nov 15, 2011 19:04:09 GMT -5
Gem is speakin' balls imo. As is Noel about not listenin' to the Beady Eye album. They are music lovers, music fanatics and they are tryin' to say they haven't listened to someone who they've been in a band with for years new album, of course they fuckin' have! Maybe it was a little dig at Noel. He's not listened to ours so I've not listened to his. I thought exactly this too. People have been saying that Noel has been relatively complimentary about Beady Eye, but I've always remembered from his press conference the bit where he said "I've not listened to their album." What a smack in the face of the brother you've been in a band with for the best part of 20 years. I don't even care enough to listen to your album...
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Post by indiekiduk3 on Nov 15, 2011 21:33:56 GMT -5
gem plays chords weird you can't figure out his notes from videos
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Post by Just Call Me The Roller on Nov 18, 2011 19:19:32 GMT -5
Gem was always seen as Noel's #1 ally in Oasis, but I feel he grew a bit tired of Noel's attitude by the end of the DOYS Tour. I remember there was almost a consensus that Gem would follow Noel's solo career, specially when he played with Noel at the TCT. In the end, though, he probably prefers the way he works with Liam, and he does have some talent, as a musician and as a composer, and those talents are very well explored in a band like Beady Eye.
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Post by MasterplanMatt on Nov 18, 2011 21:21:20 GMT -5
Really? Noel plays guitar solos live? I was pretty sure his guitarist did them all. yes, really. did you watch the bbc broadcast? I did.
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