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Post by hanofjoh99 on Nov 9, 2011 10:01:38 GMT -5
Now that everyone has seen the shows, has bought the record. My question what direction musically should Noel Gallagher take? A Paul McCartney approach or a Paul Weller approach. I cold see a Paul Weller approach.
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 9, 2011 10:16:14 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher approach. and I haven't seen his gig yet  (in 3 weeks time) |
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 9, 2011 10:28:41 GMT -5
Should continue in the vein of NGHFB, except make sure he takes more chances and breaks outside of his box a bit. In my opinion, as strong as NGHFB is, he could've taken more chances. WAL is great and it represents the only major chance he took. Noel is great when he tries to sound a bit more contemporary or mixes things up. Look at the songs where he made a minor effort to mix things up, DYKWIM (NWA drum loop) Wonderwall ("trip hop" drums) FITB (storming instrumental) GP (different vibe than any other Oasis song) WAL (dance tune!) all really good... Totally agree, I like when he tries to sound a bit more contemporary because he always does it with impeccable taste. Falling down comes along with the songs you quoted as well. For me Gas panic is one of the best songs ever made. It's epic. Don't forget his participation with the Chemical brothers too, brillants tunes. He's tryning to experiment for the next album but I'm really not sure about the AA choice. Will see but the falling down remix was really shit and the IIAG remix doesn't sound really promising. I would also like more songs like Let the lord or Simple game of genius ont the next HFB, and less 60's kind of stuff, Soldier boys is pleasant but too Kinks, it doesn't really bring anything to the album. It's more a b side for me. Whereas Simple game of genius is a fucking epic tune and it's not even on the album... |
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Post by idledreamer on Nov 9, 2011 11:28:08 GMT -5
Should continue in the vein of NGHFB, except make sure he takes more chances and breaks outside of his box a bit. In my opinion, as strong as NGHFB is, he could've taken more chances. WAL is great and it represents the only major chance he took. great post, i'm glad someone else said it.... i have been thinking about this since the first day i heard the album, 'aka... wal' jumps out at you because it sounds different from the rest of the album. don't get me wrong, there is not one weak track on the album, BUT towards the end, the tracks begin to sound, the same? , i guess as in having the same vibe to them? i'm talking about tracks 7, 8 and 9 .... (and i guess you can add track 2. 'dream on' to those as well).... all nice tunes, but if he had one more track like 'what a life', somewhere within those tracks to separate things and sound diffferent, it would have spiced things up a bit more. maybe i'm just saying that because i'm not accustomed to hearing noel's vox on every track. again, in my opinion, the most consistent collection of tracks on one album since morning glory. |
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Post by mossy on Nov 9, 2011 12:03:31 GMT -5
I think he should go east...
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Nov 9, 2011 12:50:09 GMT -5
.......then his first right, second left, straight over at the round-about and it's 400 yrds on the left!
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Post by gdforever on Nov 9, 2011 12:56:25 GMT -5
.......then his first right, second left, straight over at the round-about and it's 400 yrds on the left! That place right behind the bakery. Right? Good call! |
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Post by hanofjoh99 on Nov 9, 2011 12:58:38 GMT -5
.......then his first right, second left, straight over at the round-about and it's 400 yrds on the left! That place right behind the bakery. Right? Good call! That's really funny!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by basiloasis1974 on Nov 9, 2011 14:17:02 GMT -5
Very good.  |
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Post by takemethere95 on Nov 9, 2011 14:50:42 GMT -5
I think he should record a pyschadelic album with Amorphous Androgynous set for release next year. Pretty unlikely though...
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Post by J.B on Nov 9, 2011 15:37:25 GMT -5
I would like Noel to indulge himself and bring a bit of a reggae sound into his next album.
Steel drums are a must.
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Post by starwillshine on Nov 9, 2011 15:45:43 GMT -5
Personal preference here, Would love to see him go more folky, Dylan, Young, Donovan etc.
I'd Pick You Every Time sort of thing!
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Post by space75gr on Nov 9, 2011 16:20:50 GMT -5
a new producer (for a change) and everything is gonna be fine.
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Post by mossy on Nov 9, 2011 16:25:10 GMT -5
I would like Noel to indulge himself and bring a bit of a reggae sound into his next album. Steel drums are a must. This! Lead single 'Rum and Cocaine', a heady mix of Dancehall bass and Latin rhythms, but with Noel's trademark anthemic choruses, produced by Lee Perry, boasting a guest rap from Damian Marley, with the video filmed on a Jamaican beach, starring Noel and his crew chilling under palm fronds, decked out in bling, and surrounded by bouncing Caribbean booty. Damon Albarn guests on the timbales. Radio 1 agrees the only right thing to do in the face of such a club monster hit, is to play it every hour for the next 5 years... |
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Post by masterplan2011 on Nov 9, 2011 16:48:23 GMT -5
My only criticism on HFB's would be it was a bit safe, few songs that you like but not overawed with. I'm going to contradict myself now by saying that IIHAG is brilliant and that uses the same stock chords Noel has been using all his life,very safe but what a song that is.
However I would like to see him do mores songs like ASGOG,LTLSALM and AOTR love the vibe to these songs.
Also as mentioned before on here I wish he would bring back some proper solos. He admitted that he is drifting in to the folk kind of area now but I think he still has a few great rock songs left in him. If he can write something half as good as Gas Panic I'll be very happy!
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 9, 2011 17:02:51 GMT -5
Also as mentioned before on here I wish he would bring back some proper solos. He admitted that he is drifting in to the folk kind of area now but I think he still has a few great rock songs left in him. But he has to do pop or folk, he could do more solo that's for sure, but he can't do rock song like TSOTL or Lyla anymore. It's over now, he has nobody to sing it. So he can basiccally continues in the safe road, it'll give us masterpiece like EOTR but also some bowring stuff like SBAJF. Or he can experiment a little more like What a life and surpise people in a great way. But the rock is defintely over (and I don't think Wrong beach is great rock n roll at all...) |
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Post by masterplan2011 on Nov 9, 2011 17:14:52 GMT -5
Also as mentioned before on here I wish he would bring back some proper solos. He admitted that he is drifting in to the folk kind of area now but I think he still has a few great rock songs left in him. But he has to do pop or folk, he could do more solo that's for sure, but he can't do rock song like TSOTL or Lyla anymore. It's over now, he has nobody to sing it. So he can basiccally continues in the safe road, it'll give us masterpiece like EOTR but also some bowring stuff like SBAJF. Or he can experiment a little more like What a life and surpise people in a great way. But the rock is defintely over (and I don't think Wrong beach is great rock n roll at all...) Well he has done rock songs in the past and done them justice. I'm not great at classifying songs into genre but how would would categorize Freaky Teeth, is that not a great rock n roll song? I think his next albums should be a mix of If I Had a Gun type songs and songs like Bag it Up which wasn't long ago was it. I definitely agree that he should experiment but for me WAL isn't great at all but each to their own. |
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 9, 2011 17:27:48 GMT -5
Well he has done rock songs in the past and done them justice. I'm not great at classifying songs into genre but how would would categorize Freaky Teeth, is that not a great rock n roll song? I think his next albums should be a mix of If I Had a Gun type songs and songs like Bag it Up which wasn't long ago was it. I definitely agree that he should experiment but for me WAL isn't great at all but each to their own. No Freeky teeth is just ok, it miss something, he can't pull it off, I never ever thought Noel had done justice to rock n roll song, Force of nature or Mucky fingers are really painfull IMO. For me he really can't do Bag it up kind of things on his own. It's a part of is songwritting he had agreed to left when he started solo. He does one song like that sometimes, but that's it. He said so himself, "they're rock, I'm pop" so... WAL isn't perfetc but I'm so glad he went down that road, to his roots at the Hacienda, everytime Noel touches electro kind of stuff, he's doing it great because he has a culture of it from Manchester in the late 80's and so he has good taste in it. He should go down that road more often. And it really suits his voice. |
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Post by masterplan2011 on Nov 9, 2011 17:37:23 GMT -5
Well he has done rock songs in the past and done them justice. I'm not great at classifying songs into genre but how would would categorize Freaky Teeth, is that not a great rock n roll song? I think his next albums should be a mix of If I Had a Gun type songs and songs like Bag it Up which wasn't long ago was it. I definitely agree that he should experiment but for me WAL isn't great at all but each to their own. No Freeky teeth is just ok, it miss something, he can't pull it off, I never ever thought Noel had done justice to rock n roll song, Force of nature or Mucky fingers are really painfull IMO. For me he really can't do Bag it up kind of things on his own. It's a part of is songwritting he had agreed to left when he started solo. He does one song like that sometimes, but that's it. He said so himself, "they're rock, I'm pop" so... WAL isn't perfetc but I'm so glad he went down that road, to his roots at the Hacienda, everytime Noel touches electro kind of stuff, he's doing it great because he has a culture of it from Manchester in the late 80's and so he has good taste in it. He should go down that road more often. And it really suits his voice. I don't think Noel and electro should go together though. I think WAL was his attempt to break the singles chart. I know he might say he doesn't care about the singles chart but I think he does. For me, it was a bit too manufactured for Noel whereas his best songs seem so natural. I don't see how he can write much electro stuff on an acoustic guitar but he can add in some strange chords ie. ASGOG and good production and get a class different kind of sounding song. |
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Post by howsoonisnow on Nov 9, 2011 17:45:28 GMT -5
I don't think Noel and electro should go together though. I think WAL was his attempt to break the singles chart. I know he might say he doesn't care about the singles chart but I think he does. For me, it was a bit too manufactured for Noel whereas his best songs seem so natural. I don't see how he can write much electro stuff on an acoustic guitar but he can add in some strange chords ie. ASGOG and good production and get a class different kind of sounding song. No no WAL is an hommage to his youth days and it's fine. Not a big hit anyway. And I don't mean electro in a Chemical brothers way I mean it in a modern vibe to some of his song, like Falling down. It's really more interesting for me when he does a Let the lord or a SGOG because he's out of his confort zone. I can't stand seeing doing 3 60's bowring kind of songs on his album and proposing promising stuff on b side. He has to take more risks. But then again we'll wait and see for the AA album. |
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Post by mossy on Nov 9, 2011 18:14:45 GMT -5
He should release a RnB / Grime album and collaborate with Rizzle Kicks, Ed Sheeran, Tinie Tempah, and Lady Gaga. Or in other words, sell his soul to Satan. " I step inside the club, drink some rum, then some bud, Grind against a girl, but tha bitch calls me an old fud! But I ain't backing down, I impress her with my jive, Music is in your soul, Gansta even when I'm forty five... " |
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Post by Bittersweet Split on Nov 9, 2011 19:40:12 GMT -5
More Soldier Boys and Jesus Freaks.
He's singing his own songs, he might as well start saying something a little more than 'Slide Away' I love it, but that was Oasis. Noel can be different.
Basically, more words, and a little faster. Modernise the old.
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Post by thuperthonic on Nov 9, 2011 20:18:36 GMT -5
I like the upbeat choruses and all, but personally, I'd prefer more haunting balladry. We know he can do it (soundchecks of IIHAG and EOTR) - it just seems like he doesn't want to. I don't really know why as Wonderwall in its current form is exactly that and is praised more than anything else. Also, more arpeggios would be nice, and less full-on strumming of chords. More intimacy in general, I suppose.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 9, 2011 20:43:29 GMT -5
Since he has now done his kitchen sink album...and his AA collaboration.
I think it would be great if he did decide to do a more stripped down acoustic album. Something lighter.
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Post by manualex on Nov 9, 2011 21:09:00 GMT -5
Whatever he wants to do... even if its nothing.
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