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Post by Clint on Apr 29, 2005 2:27:50 GMT -5
Greenday and 50 cent are the biggest NOW
However, the band with the most staying power is Dave Matthews Band who are amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2005 8:42:22 GMT -5
Greenday and 50 cent are the biggest NOW However, the band with the most staying power is Dave Matthews Band who are amazing. they are great live but the band with the most stayin powe is aerosmith..imo they have the same lineup since 72 they sell out every gig and they chart well that gotta be the american standard
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Post by ingotheranchhand on Apr 29, 2005 11:16:08 GMT -5
YEs, Dave Matthews band is quite good. I love Busted Stuff. That is a fantastic album!
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Post by flashbax812 on Apr 30, 2005 2:14:02 GMT -5
i live in ohio and it seems like a big rock band doesnt really exist. a lot of people are into the indie scene here but a lot do like u2/coldplay. oasis remain the wonderwall/champagne supernova band
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Post by OasisHC on May 1, 2005 4:08:28 GMT -5
Oasis is getting quite a bit of airplay here only because they are coming by in september. But I would have to say that Tool is a very popular band here. Everyone likes them.
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Post by cevb on May 1, 2005 4:24:17 GMT -5
just a guess... DBTT will debut some where between 10~20 hope it goes higher than that
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Post by SlideAway on May 1, 2005 12:41:26 GMT -5
As an Englishman, im interested to know, where do Oasis rank as biggest band in the US? Use ur heads and not ur hearts on this one. And who is the biggest considered band...please dont say GreenDay or some trash like that... Are they near the top on a 1-100 scale, if u see what i mean? They don't rank high at all. Understand that a LOT of Americans have very good music tastes, particularly on college campuses and the indie rock scene is huge but doesn't get much radio airplay. Indie rock in the US is the main rock currently in existence alongside very sanitized "alternative" that gets radio airplay. The thing is that in the US, the indie rock genre is more separate from the mainstream than in England. I mean, in England even Oasis was technically in indie band! Here, the dominance of the major record companies is so strong that on MTV, VH1, and most FM radio, indie rock doesn't usually get played. Also, the reaction to most FM rock radio is terrible amongst critics and most music fans. A LOT of people don't even listen to the radio. Remember that The Beatles were bigger in the US than in England. So Americans have perfectly good taste in music if radio weren't all controlled by ClearChannel Communications - a huge right-wing corporation that controls virtually all their radio stations and is also a huge Bush backer. The thing about America is its very diverse so music tastes are VERY fragmented. England is smaller and there's national radio and the like, so its easier for one band to seize the ground. In the US it hasn't been like that since the '60s. There's a big rock music scene, much of which is Indie, then there's commercial/teen/dance pop, rap, r&b, country, etc. As for Oasis - they'll be remembed as one of a slew of big '90s "alternative" rock bands (basically modern rock). They were quite big here back at their Morning Glory heights, but unfortunately they're seen somewhat as one-album wonders. You'll be surprised at HOW MANY people own MG and love it, but own only that. Definitely Maybe never had much of an impact here (although Live Forever was a minor hit) outside of indie-rock circles (which subsequently abandoned Oasis b/c they went "mainstream"). Possibly this could be because Oasis released Morning Glory within a year of DM and had only started promoting DM in the spring of '95 - by the time they could get some buzz, Morning Glory was ready to come out and the buzz shifted to that. Anyway, in the U.S. the biggest radio acts are rappers like 50 Cent, Eminem (who's a good rapper no doubt - I'm just not a rap fan at all), OutKast (who I DO like b/c they actually show some imagination and tunefullness). As for rock, right now, yes, Green Day's probably the biggest. Personally, I don't really understand the Green Day hatred on so many Oasis boards. Green Day is in my opinion, the closest any American band is to Oasis. They're quite similar in that they're synthesists - they're not so original, but they do a great job synthesizing strains from various influences. And their primary influence isn't American pop-punk, it's British punk. They're big inspirations were the Buzzcocks, The Jam, The Clash, and on their last two albums, The Kinks, The Beatles, and The Who. Personally, I think Green Day's very good and I own a number of their albums. American Idiot is a GREAT album. They're far better than other crappy pop-punk like fucking Good Charlotte or something. The other big "alternative" bands on the radio are EVEN worse - Nickelback, Hoobastank, Third Eye Blind, 3 Door Down, Incubus. All pretty terrible. Matchbox 20 is okay and I have a couple of their CDs, but they're pretty bland. Same with Maroon 5 (although I don't own their album). Among the big mainstream bands that are good are Weezer, Red Hot Chili Peppers, yes Green Day, etc. I guess you could include the indie-rock bands that are having mainstream success - The White Stripes, Modest Mouse. Other big indie-rock bands are The Shins, Wilco, The Flaming Lips, Death Cab for Cutie, The Postal Service, Cake, Bright Eyes, and a bunch of singersongwriters - Ben Folds, Ben Harper, Ben Lee, Ben Kweller, Rufus Wainwright, etc. As for the Biggest British Band - definitely Coldplay right now. U2's also very big (not British, I know). Franz Ferdinand is quite big and got some mainstream radio success thankfully. Radiohead has a dedicated following although very little radio play. And most big British bands have at least a cult following. Oasis might be able to come back, although probably not approach the popularity they had back in the day. The American music scene was actually quite good in the mid-90s when that "alternative" music explosion occurred. It hit rock bottom about a couple years ago and now seems to be getting a little better, esp. with satellite and internet radio becoming big. If Lyla does well, the album gets good reviews, and the second single is popular, it could sell perhaps one or two million copies, which would be a big success. More likely, it'll only go gold (500,000) or less. We'll see.
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Post by Chrisisawarmgun on May 1, 2005 17:21:37 GMT -5
Wow...so indepth...
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Post by Tam on May 2, 2005 22:06:32 GMT -5
What all the fellow americans are saying is TRUE and quite accurate. There are also some cultural differences that come into play. If you watch the DM DVD, you can see how MEGA their impact was in England back in 1994. They are basically woven into the fabric of the country/music scene. But folks here in the states don't appreciate it and just don't get it. And how Oasis are inticately linked to football, we don't have that here. That Massive LOYALTY and PRIDE.(hmm... maybe people in New Jersey, USA have a comparable loyalty to Bruce Springsteen, that's the closest analogy I can think of at the moment..) THEN, Noel and Liam don't SUCK UP to the INDUSTRY , period end of story....(Oh I love em for it !) Americans don't get Oasis on many levels. I LOVE THEIR ATTITUDE, but I suppose many don't. ~ In closing, LIAM IS THE BEST FRONTMAN alive. I love Noel bec. he's all the music I love wrapped into ONE (PUNK, ROCKNROLL , POP and ballads/acoustic.) What more cld we ask for ? ~ The gallagher bros. are for SERIOUS BRITISH RockNRoll fans in the US. Fine by me ! I grew up on British Rock and still think it's the BEST in the world ! Tam
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Post by LuckyJim on May 3, 2005 10:11:54 GMT -5
Me again.
One of the things I think happened with Oasis is that they assumed their massive success in America with MG was similar to the massive success they enjoyed in Britain. In reality, Americans fell in love with the songs (Wonderwall and Champagne…) and not the band so much. Whereas people in the rest of the world seemed to put up with their arrogance and bad behavior, Americans can't be bothered. It's a weird thing about us Americans. We claim to love the rebel and the outlaw, but the truth of the matter is, most of our entertainment industry rabble-rousers are pretty safe. I don't want to get into Eminem bashing, just as an example, but you can't tell me that guy was not the product of dozens of focus groups, not to mention 100% support from one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the world.
That said, I still can't help thinking that at the time, if Oasis had smiled once in a while, and acted just a little grateful for the adulation they received from fans (i.e. the record-buying public they claim to love so much) in the US 10 or so years ago, they would have better luck now
And for what it's worth, I agree with what the guy above said about Greenday. I've always enjoyed them.
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Post by Wonderfan on May 4, 2005 17:58:46 GMT -5
Me again. One of the things I think happened with Oasis is that they assumed their massive success in America with MG was similar to the massive success they enjoyed in Britain. In reality, Americans fell in love with the songs (Wonderwall and Champagne…) and not the band so much. Whereas people in the rest of the world seemed to put up with their arrogance and bad behavior, Americans can't be bothered. It's a weird thing about us Americans. We claim to love the rebel and the outlaw, but the truth of the matter is, most of our entertainment industry rabble-rousers are pretty safe. I don't want to get into Eminem bashing, just as an example, but you can't tell me that guy was not the product of dozens of focus groups, not to mention 100% support from one of the biggest entertainment conglomerates in the world. That said, I still can't help thinking that at the time, if Oasis had smiled once in a while, and acted just a little grateful for the adulation they received from fans (i.e. the record-buying public they claim to love so much) in the US 10 or so years ago, they would have better luck now And for what it's worth, I agree with what the guy above said about Greenday. I've always enjoyed them. I totally agree. Noel says we are lucky to have their music to listen to...I say they are lucky to have us to buy it. Another example about the cultural differences: people here in the US do not use the term queue...so that song will have people saying wtf? Well less literate people anyway...it's just not a common term here.
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Post by mattgoat on May 4, 2005 18:49:40 GMT -5
respect to u all for ur opinions.
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Post by Tam on May 4, 2005 20:46:14 GMT -5
Mattgoat - Hey honey ! RESPECT BACK AT Ya ! Wink, Tamara
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Post by goldie on May 9, 2005 20:44:17 GMT -5
In the Noel webcast, he mentioned that he liked the big American cities, but none of the cities inbetween. I would say this is an accurate description of Oasis' popularity in the states - its relegated to big cities where people know what's going on outside of good ole 'merica. Do you really think Montana is going to listen to Oasis?
Two final things: Americans, in general, don't get the kind of humor the Gallaghers have. Even when they are just fucking around, Americans see it as arrogance. Second, Green Day is shit, even though they had a go at Bush with the last album.
In the past year I've seen the Stereophonics, Gomez, Kasabian, the Music, Futureheads, to name a few British bands, here in Phoenix, Arizona, and these shows averaged about 200-400 people. I'd like to complain, but I get to see these bands in much smaller venues than British fans - I fucking love IT. So here's to a musically ignorant America!
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Post by MSprague01 on May 9, 2005 23:08:08 GMT -5
Here in America, if you ask the average person with some music knowledge who Oasis are, they'll tell you three things:
1. They're the Wonderwall band. 2. They sang Champagne Supernova. 3. They're incredibly arrogant and assholes.
For some reason, most Americans don't understand the humor of Noel and Liam Gallagher. If any star acted the way that they do in interviews and were just incredibly sarcastic like that, the American public would hate them. It's very weird. If Eminem, who is seen by Americans as a bad boy, started acting the way they do, people would probably dislike him to. He can say all of the things he does in his music about killing his wife and whatever else, but he can't say anything bad in public or people won't like him. It's very strange.
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Post by MSprague01 on May 9, 2005 23:12:10 GMT -5
And to add to what I just said, Oasis don't say anything bad in their music, but people here in America dislike them. I guess it really is all about the image.
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Post by USOasis86 on May 12, 2005 14:19:33 GMT -5
If america was just my town they'd be in the top 3 but since america isn't just my town i'd say they are the range 20 -30 and climbing
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Post by jtmOBX on May 12, 2005 14:25:06 GMT -5
If america was just my town they'd be in the top 3 but since america isn't just my town i'd say they are the range 20 -30 and climbing No kidding, the radio airplay around my hometown has been amazing. Everytime Ive driven anywhere and listened to the radio in the past few weeks I have heard Lyla 90% of the time.
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Post by lr729 on May 14, 2005 14:10:41 GMT -5
Wonderwall, Champagne Supernova, Liam on TRL (stoned and GOD-LIKE), and Behind The Music (episode with most swearing) oh, and the crack/break ups on tour while here. That my friend sums up Oasis and the US to date................................
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Post by 729 on May 19, 2005 15:09:04 GMT -5
the rest of the world seemed to put up with their arrogance and bad behavior. I don't think 'put up with' is the phrase. We fucking love it! That's what Rock 'N' Roll is!
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Post by hobbitmc on May 19, 2005 15:39:36 GMT -5
Just to echo/add to some of the sentiments here . . .
Bands that continue to have some longevity in the US tend to tour it non-stop: Dave Matthews Band, Aerosmith, U2, etc. Now, will the "few" shows in the US help this? Sure, but more extensive touring is really needed to really build up some hype.
It's easy to blame the current music market in the US - MTV, Clear Channel (owns a massive portion of the US radio market), etc - and I'm not saying that's not a large part of it either. However, bands that have some form of "comeback" in the works can often receive a lot of media attention, if done properly.
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Post by billlumbergh on May 19, 2005 18:10:27 GMT -5
I'd say they are a tier 2 rock band. People know who they are; they still play pretty large venues. But they aren't in the league of U2, Coldplay, White Stripes, etc. However, Lyla is doing quite well so they are having something of a resurgence.
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Post by johnnyrotten on May 25, 2005 11:03:20 GMT -5
unfortunately, most americans don't "get" Oasis... for the younger people in America, they look towards MTV as a musical outlet, and MTV generally plays music by bands that, to me, are all about their appearance and not much about making proper fooking rock 'n roll. which is at a minimum in America, and the rock bands we do have are all into kissing MTV's ass and the record execs' asses that they get major play on TV and radio. Now the older people in America, probably just remember Oasis' personality in the 90's and their "fuck you" attitude which turned them off to a lot of people who have never actually seen a true rock star like Liam and Noel.... our "rock stars" in America are disgusting, people like Marilyn Manson, Rob Thomas from Matchbox 20, the gay guy from Creed, and any other little punk playing the same punk music as other garage bands and dressing like every other punk rocker thinking that he looks original... sorry for the rambling, just woke up and haven't had enough coffee yet.. but I for 1 fuckin' love Oasis and have been die hard for 10 years, since I first heard Live Forever in late 94.... now I am 30 and actually get my friends to like quite a few Oasis songs, but they never like them enough to actually go and buy the albums... except for 1 girl I know, who rnjoyed my playing of Talk Tonight at a show 1 night and she went and bought The Masterplan... anyways, peace and love to every member of this forum.. long live Oasis... and can someone help me up to the bar?
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Post by gig1 on Jun 5, 2005 22:17:57 GMT -5
As far as bands go
1) Coldplay 2) The Killers 3) The White Stripes 4) U2 5) Dave Matthews Band
The majority of people in this country do not pay attention to music like they should. If its on MTV on in the fuck mag Rolling Stone than it will be big. Fucking bullshit
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Post by scoot8183 on Jun 6, 2005 22:09:07 GMT -5
Hey Everyone. I'm new to the forum and I live in Colorado, USA. While I agree that oasis haven't exactly exploded in popularity in the states, I must say I've been able to find a pocket of people who get it. I'm a vintage scooter guy (somewhat mod I suppose) and a lot of people on the scene in Denver/Boulder really like Oasis. I've been able to convert most of my fellow indie rock/punk friends to fans as well. One listen to Definitely Maybe with a pint of Stella in hand will convince anyone of the simple brilliance that is Oasis. I have tix for the Philly and Denver shows this summer...I'm psyched. Enjoy Everyone.
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