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Post by headshrinker84 on Oct 23, 2011 14:38:55 GMT -5
I read that that Chris Griffiths from the real people said he wrote the melody and the verse and Liam wrote the chorus  And that Noel nicked Rockin Chair from him. |
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Post by cheerfuljamie on Oct 23, 2011 14:44:05 GMT -5
According to Tony in his book it is something along them lines. Him & Bonehead were jamming then Chris & Liam chipped in with lyrics.
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Post by GIMH on Oct 23, 2011 14:45:26 GMT -5
Noel has never denied the claim on Columbia to my knowledge, and on The Masterplan C.Griffiths is credited on Rockin Chair
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Post by jaelli210 on Oct 23, 2011 14:56:26 GMT -5
did he nick rockin chair? i though they just co wrote it?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 15:19:46 GMT -5
There's a noticeable similarity with the chorus of The Real People's track 'Feel The Pain' and the chorus of Don't Go Away See 1min 32sec at There's a good discussion about rockin chair, columbia etc here: www.officialrealpeople.com/news/index.htmlTWB. |
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 23, 2011 17:03:32 GMT -5
Columbia had been an instrumental tune in the pre-DM days, dating back to 1992, I think. Noel had written it while he had that broken foot from the pipe fitting job. But the other story is that Liam came up with the words to it while Chris Griffiths strummed it.
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Post by BlueJay on Oct 24, 2011 1:43:58 GMT -5
Noel has never denied the claim on Columbia to my knowledge. I don't know about that. Even though Chris & Liam probably played a big part in the song, Noel gives the impression here that it was largely a solo effort: pitchfork.com/features/5-10-15-20/8688-noel-gallagher/Particularly when he says; "What turned it on its head for me was when I wrote "Columbia" one afternoon and thought it was really fucking good. It didn't really mean a great deal, but it had great hooks on it, great guitar." |
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Post by GIMH on Oct 24, 2011 6:15:46 GMT -5
Yeah but he might just mean the music. I'd like Noel to have written it alone but I dunno.
I've also tended to read a bit into him and Mark Coyle doing the scouse accent of "There we were now here we are" on the DM DVD
The story's been around for years anyway, before they fell out IIRC
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 24, 2011 7:13:37 GMT -5
the lyrics on columbia are very simple-minded and when i listen to the song then certainly not because of the lyrics. so it's not important to me who wrote the nonsens lyrics.
and i think he bought don't go away or the lyrics from don't go away from the real people
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 25, 2011 2:00:36 GMT -5
What happened between Noel and Mark Coyle?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2011 10:52:07 GMT -5
the lyrics on columbia are very simple-minded and when i listen to the song then certainly not because of the lyrics. so it's not important to me who wrote the nonsens lyrics. and i think he bought don't go away or the lyrics from don't go away from the real people I don't see what's nonsensical about it. It's clearly about a night on the town with either alcohol or drugs, very fitting of the DM mantra. |
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Post by thuperthonic on Oct 25, 2011 13:30:19 GMT -5
the lyrics on columbia are very simple-minded and when i listen to the song then certainly not because of the lyrics. so it's not important to me who wrote the nonsens lyrics. and i think he bought don't go away or the lyrics from don't go away from the real people I don't see what's nonsensical about it. It's clearly about a night on the town with either alcohol or drugs, very fitting of the DM mantra. It's not clear at all. Get over yourself. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 25, 2011 14:29:06 GMT -5
I don't see what's nonsensical about it. It's clearly about a night on the town with either alcohol or drugs, very fitting of the DM mantra. It's not clear at all. Get over yourself. Apparently you've seen the signs, but they're not very clear? |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Feb 11, 2021 15:49:00 GMT -5
Read this from Tony McCarroll's book:
It was our second week in Bootle. We had that comfortably thing already and we just knew we could produce something good here. Liam was frustrated, though. He wanted to write a song. One of our earlier rehearsals had developed into 'Columbia', a simple instrumental that needed finishing but we still rolled it out live. Liam sang melody quietly to himself while Chris Griffiths plucked away on his acoustic.
Liam suddenly raised his voice: 'There we were. Now here we are. All this confusion. Nothing's the same to me.' Chris Griffiths asked Liam to repeat this line over and over, then joined in, in a higher pitch, with, 'But I can't tell you the way I feel because the way I feel is oh so new to me.'
Crash, Bang, Wallop. Oasis and The Real People collided. It sounded bang-on, and in the next couple of hours it was completed. Chris threw in a few 'yeah, yeah, yeahs' as his Liverpudlian marker and Liam pleaded his Mancunian 'C'Mon, c'mon, c'mon' and we had another new song. We headed back to Tony Griffiths and Noel and sang the new melody and lyrics to them. We told him that Chris had come up with it. Noel looked proper chuffed and was immediately repeating the melody. Liam then proudly told Noel he was involved in the writing as well. Noel's smile seemed to vanish as quick as the light after the flick of the switch.
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Post by Parka Flames on Feb 12, 2021 4:22:56 GMT -5
Isn't the guitar riff nicked from some acid house song as well?
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Feb 12, 2021 5:12:37 GMT -5
I'm really glad that one of my favorite Oasis songs from the 90s was also generated by Liam
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Post by oasisunited on Feb 12, 2021 8:50:19 GMT -5
Isn't the guitar riff nicked from some acid house song as well? It's very reminiscent of "Swamp Thing" by The Chameleons, a band that Noel was very into in the 80's: |
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Feb 12, 2021 9:20:21 GMT -5
Isn't the guitar riff nicked from some acid house song as well? It's very reminiscent of "Swamp Thing" by The Chameleons, a band that Noel was very into in the 80's: The melody and lyrics were created by Liam and Chris. Noel worked only on the final arrangement. But yes, he probably took a cue from things like this |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 12, 2021 11:04:49 GMT -5
I really wish The Real People got proper credit for their contributions. They are really good at what they do and their career sort of tanked undeservingly as Oasis popularity grew.
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Post by defmaybe00 on Feb 12, 2021 11:37:33 GMT -5
I really wish The Real People got proper credit for their contributions. They are really good at what they do and their career sort of tanked undeservingly as Oasis popularity grew. Never got the hype for them honestly, but with the amount of shitty rock bands trying to write like Noel Gallagher that got exposure during the britpop era it's weird how they never managed to take off at least a little bit |
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Post by asimarx on Feb 12, 2021 12:50:24 GMT -5
Isn't the guitar riff nicked from some acid house song as well? |
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Post by The Invisible Sun on Feb 12, 2021 13:17:43 GMT -5
I really wish The Real People got proper credit for their contributions. They are really good at what they do and their career sort of tanked undeservingly as Oasis popularity grew. Never got the hype for them honestly, but with the amount of shitty rock bands trying to write like Noel Gallagher that got exposure during the britpop era it's weird how they never managed to take off at least a little bit I prefer their latest work to their early career. I think some of the best they've done has been put out in this last decade, especially on Monday Morning Breakdown. But yeah, they write similarly, they should have been bigger than they were in the 90's. |
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 12, 2021 14:29:55 GMT -5
I remember hearing or reading once that Liam claimed to have written one or both of the verses to Columbia so I guess that's probably it what Tony McCaroll's book. I still love the song whoever wrote it and it will always remain my favourite Oasis song.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 17:23:04 GMT -5
I remember listening to Radio X because Definitely Maybe was their classic album of the day or something like that. This was some time ago, and Gordon Smart was hosting it (yuck). He was talking about Columbia and claimed that Liam had tried to sue Noel to get songwriting credits. Because he was friendly with Noel I wonder if that is something he had heard from Noel, or maybe he was just making it up (he did write for the Sun so not the most credible source).
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Post by tiger40 on Feb 13, 2021 14:14:28 GMT -5
When I first heard about Liam claiming he had written one of the verses or both was when I was listening to Radio One when they had an Oasis night as they broadcast the whole Gmex concert and afterwards they did an Oasis top 10 which was voted by listeners with Jo Whiley and that's where I heard about it. I still have it on tape somewhere.
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