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Post by bucketboy on Oct 13, 2011 16:36:07 GMT -5
Most of the reviews of the album are generally good. However some of the reviews from major publications and websites slate the album. I cannot understand this. No one on earth can tell me its a poor or even average album. I don't have a sophisticated palette when it comes to music but you know what your getting with noel and some of the reviews are complaining that he is playing it safe. But he is releasing a "far out album" (his own words) next year. What more do they want?
Do some journalists just dislike him or am I looking into it too much and its just a matter of taste?
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Post by Banksy on Oct 13, 2011 16:45:24 GMT -5
from my previous thread on reviews the balance has been very much on the positive side. telegraph, NME, q, rollin stone even the guardian was semi.positive. metro and evening standard were always hard on.oasis and being free in London they hold some weight BUG i don't think they have gone yet?
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Post by J.B on Oct 13, 2011 16:49:19 GMT -5
Two words: Musical Snobbery
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Post by bucketboy on Oct 13, 2011 16:49:22 GMT -5
from my previous thread on reviews the balance has been very much on the positive side. telegraph, NME, q, rollin stone even the guardian was semi.positive. metro and evening standard were always hard on.oasis and being free in London they hold some weight BUG i don't think they have gone yet? [/quote True, but I seem to get personally offended when I read the bad reviews. I also find it odd that the nme gave it the same score as DOYS
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Post by pphillipsukuk on Oct 13, 2011 16:52:58 GMT -5
Noel and Liam will never get a fair shout in the modern music press. The first two albums will always hang over them and they will always be both compared to them or the each other. It's the way of the world.
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putmeinmyplace89
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Post by putmeinmyplace89 on Oct 13, 2011 16:53:02 GMT -5
Not until i became an Oasis fan did i realize how absurd of a profession being a music reviewer is. For starters art is subjective but I mean the bias is insane. Its pathetic infact, and the gallagher's have received the worst of it, but hey banter for banter i guess. I feel bad for the reviews of future great rock albums from unknown bands. If it aint hipster it aint cool sadly. But seriously what gets you hired as a reviewer? a liberal arts degree with a major in art history and minor in journalism.. give me a break. Thank the lord for the internet.. we all are reviewers, and this reviewer gives NGHFB's a Solid 9 out of 10. Where are the slam reviews though? Without Liam I have yet to see Noel get slammed.
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Post by Banksy on Oct 13, 2011 16:55:20 GMT -5
as much as we like it they are entitled to dislike it. the fact that more often than not they seem to have an agenda or worse base their reviews on previous goings ons/misconceptions makes it stick in the throat more.
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putmeinmyplace89
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Post by putmeinmyplace89 on Oct 13, 2011 16:57:09 GMT -5
reviewers despise Liam, because Liams the kid who made there lives living hell on the playground. They Only sorta dislike Noel because Noel would just laugh and watch them get beat up and then afterwards help them up.
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Post by thuperthonic on Oct 13, 2011 17:09:41 GMT -5
It's undeniable.
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Post by ctmazin on Oct 13, 2011 17:10:34 GMT -5
I think the album has been reviewed as at least good by almost all of the publications. The only one to "slate it" was UNCUT. Even Drowned in Sound and the Guardian gave it grudging praise.
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Oct 13, 2011 17:11:58 GMT -5
Fuck them! Fuck them!! Fuck them!! Fuck them!!! The leak it is imminent
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2011 21:00:56 GMT -5
anydecentmusic.com/review/3792/Noel-Gallaghers-High-Flying-Birds-Noel-Gallaghers-High-Flying-Birds.aspx^ Poor so far from ADM, but they're shit, and this is such a short list which emphasizes that they are shit at what they do. And while not perfect, Metacritic does a much better job at this (not up yet). ADM is shit in comparison. Actually, piss poor. Where are all the sources, like the 5/5 Telegraph rating? Also, BBC review is subjective as it doesn't give a number, but 6? Really? For that write up? Fuck off. Frankly, I'm waiting for the All Music review, as they tend to be spot on. My guess is a 4.5/5 from them, and no less than a 4/5.
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Post by start at the end on Oct 14, 2011 8:10:31 GMT -5
I put the most stock in Q, MOJO, Spin, and Guitar and those from them have been positive thus far, so whatever.
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Post by idledreamer on Oct 14, 2011 8:29:01 GMT -5
yeah, i reckon there's still some snobby 'journalists' that can't stand the fact that noel was the machine behind the band 'that did wonderwall', that sold out knebworth for two historic nights, and most importantly, that never played 'the game'.
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Post by sidewindervj on Oct 15, 2011 13:03:46 GMT -5
anydecentmusic.com/review/3792/Noel-Gallaghers-High-Flying-Birds-Noel-Gallaghers-High-Flying-Birds.aspx^ Poor so far from ADM, but they're shit, and this is such a short list which emphasizes that they are shit at what they do. And while not perfect, Metacritic does a much better job at this (not up yet). ADM is shit in comparison. Actually, piss poor. Where are all the sources, like the 5/5 Telegraph rating? Also, BBC review is subjective as it doesn't give a number, but 6? Really? For that write up? Fuck off. Frankly, I'm waiting for the All Music review, as they tend to be spot on. My guess is a 4.5/5 from them, and no less than a 4/5. You're right, what the fuck is this about. Half of those sites don't even give number reviews!
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Post by LlAM on Oct 15, 2011 13:09:33 GMT -5
Slagging popular albums makes people read your newspaper.
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 15, 2011 13:24:18 GMT -5
Noel probably slated some of music witers favorites bands, so it is an opportunity for them to payback Noel.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 15, 2011 14:16:08 GMT -5
Personally, I think that the average to sub average reviews have a vendetta against Oasis, and since NGHFB is standard Noel, and thus standard Oasis, some will slag it no matter what.
While I rate it higher, I personally can't understand the many reviews that give it a sub-8/10. And for those who give it sub 7.5/10 baffle my mind much further.....
God only knows what idiotic number pitchfork will assign.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Oct 15, 2011 14:31:46 GMT -5
wehhhhhh.... the album's getting poor reviews wehh.... lol stop moaning guys, the album is good, at times, even very good. but as a whole, it's not a knockout. I for one don't care that much for reviews in general, i know a lot of you(even some of the people i don't get along with on here) think the same way about that. In the end, it doesn't really matter if it gets 100 5-star reviews and only a few poor reviews, if those are from the "big dogs". I am talking of course, about Rolling Stone, Uncut, Spin, and the all important(the one i trust the most) All Music Guide. We already know Rolling Stone will more than likely give it a 3 star review because they're retards, Spin's will probably favorable since they always loved Oasis and All Music Guide.... well, they're spot-on with their reviews for the most part(most of the time)
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Post by drteter on Oct 15, 2011 14:39:09 GMT -5
The ones that have given the album 2-stars thus far (and I think we all agree it's not a 2-star album, even though it didn't blow everyone away) are the reviews that make it sound like the journalist listened to the first 30 seconds of each song.
Sometimes I wonder to what extent these reviewers really listen to each song...for example, each negative review mentions (slates) Dream On's opening line, says that What A Life is a breath of fresh air on the album and that Noel didn't ever quite break out of his comfort zone like they wish he would have, and then talks about how Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks features political lyrics.
Seems like they could have easily picked that up without ever listening to a full song or by reading a more thorough review and copying the talking points. I doubt that literally every journalist that doesn't like the album would come up with the same 2 or 3 reasons for it.
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Post by ozfan2 on Oct 15, 2011 16:56:26 GMT -5
Morning Glory had Terrible reviews and BHN had almost all 5/5 reviews. Reviewers on the main part score so they will look credible and won't want to risk egg on their face so they follow the herd .
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